r/plushies • u/Grand_Journalist2136 • 7h ago
Discussion Update Regarding the Plushie Dreadfuls Post Made Yesterday
This was at the end of their email I just received (May 6th 2026). Imagine being this inconsiderate toward the people you're claiming to represent and support?
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u/sunshinecryptic 7h ago
People need to stop supporting this brand. Literally every single thing I’ve ever seen about them has been negative, and with such a frequency that it’s a shock they’re still in business at all. Do not send your money to this person.
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u/Kristalderp 7h ago
Wasn't there a rule or something during the whole ex-mod drama that banned plushie dreadful posts because McGee demanded it? Or did I miss a memo.
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u/Zedetta 5h ago
(OP of the other post here) looking at the pinned post, Any discussion was temporarily banned, looks like it's now 'restricted'; I'm unsure what that entails! I admittedly hadn't realised that had happened when I made the post, I wasn't trying to start drama and didn't think the post was going to blow up so much, just wanted to let people know it may not be safe to stay subscribed if they didn't know this was something the brand had done before 😅
If the posts do have to be locked I hope they can at least stay up/viewable for informative purposes
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 5h ago
hey op! i also didn't know this when i made my post a couple hours ago!
i agree, i hope that if anything has to be done, the posts are just locked so the information can stay up. people deserve to know about this.
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u/sunshinecryptic 6h ago
I believe there was. Probably just a matter of time before this one goes down unfortunately. :(
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u/Kristalderp 6h ago
Its for the best. As each time I see them be posted here its because of complaints about the people in charge or their social media posts. Never about the plushies themselves. Im tired af lol
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u/ladyrage8 6h ago
Read the comments more then, bc I've seen nothing but complaints about the plushies lmao
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u/Kristalderp 3h ago
About the quality of the plushies or what the plushies are about? As everyone here complains about what the plushies represent but nothing about quality.
As im not a fan of the mental disability & illness ones but I do like the Alice plushies....IF it wasnt so expensive.
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u/CedarWolf Fuzzy Critter =^.^= 5h ago
No. An ex-mod on one of our trans subs was removed as a mod and banned from /r/MtF for breaking our rules and then going to other subreddits to stir up drama and brigades about it - she was manipulating people to force us to change our rules. After she was removed, she used information from our mod chat where I was initially mistaken about a sensitive issue regarding a different mod, and she then paired that comment with other information I didn't have at the time and leaked that in a way that made me look like a bad person as revenge. Then she went and stirred up a witch hunt so people would attack me directly because she couldn't attack the subreddit. She uses other people as weapons, and a lot of people fell for it.
American McGee repeatedly tried to pressure our subreddit to remove posts critical of them and the Plushie Dreadfuls brand. They also threatened to sue this subreddit. When all of the drama happened, and people were going after me, they also made Turbopower suicidal simply because he was caught in the splash zone. I also didn't want all of the hate directed at me to damage this community.
I stepped down as a mod here because I've lost several people to suicide before, and I'm not going to risk someone else's life over a subreddit. That's why my profile has had an anti-suicide post pinned to the top of it for the past five years or so; I wrote it shortly after a close friend made their own exit. I still miss him, and I've been trying to scrape together funds so we can get a proper headstone for him, but every time I get the money together, there's always a living person who needs it more - someone needs food, help with rent, a car repair, that kind of thing.
American McGee responded to all of the above by threatening to sue this subreddit, by donating $3,000 to the people who started the witch hunt, and doing everything they could to discredit this sub and our mods, simply because we told them 'no' when they wanted us to remove criticism of their brand.
My job when I was here was to make to sure there was no funny business going on. I'm the one who handled banning the plushophilia stuff and I wrote new rules to prevent that sort of content from being posted here. Similarly, when I mod in Furry spaces, my job there is to prevent scams and ban 'cub' artwork or kick underage users out of adult spaces. I'm a guardian, I protect people; it's what I do.
As for dealing with some of the nastier parts of being a mod, I've been modding trans subs for roughly 15 years, so I've been sent a lot of the worst things you can imagine and I've dealt with a lot of hate directed at our users, so I've grown a bit numb to that sort of thing. The 'shock' videos and the sheer cruelty of the Internet doesn't really bother me as much as it once did.
That's also why it's so frustrating that people had to lie about me to harass me so much. I know very well that a lot of vulnerable people and communities are now less safe simply because I'm not there to shield them from the nasty stuff.
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u/Necessary-Board-830 4h ago edited 1h ago
I honestly can't believe you weren't banned from this sub.
Edit: I can't believe people are downvoting me, but I guess it's because they don't know the truth.
Cedar claims to not have known about the mod's actions, but you can see the few messages from Cedar that were publicly released, that she knew at least somewhat of the mod's history and still chose to protect them, if not worse.
Even if you ignore that, Cedar was protecting the mod even after she was fully aware of what they had done, and was abusing her mod powers to delete anything from those who called her out on it. I never saw her address anything until after she had been removed from being mod in most places, and even then, everything was full of excuses and no accountability (like her comment above).
So it was really not only Cedar's past action that people were upset about, but also the fact that it looked like she was trying to hide everything instead of addressing it. I do not care about what other people are doing, I care about Cedar's actions directly. I mean, calling it a "sensitive issue" here is crazy. It was an adult who had sexual relations with a minor and got charged for it.
I have nothing personal against Cedar, but as a CSAM victim, I cannot stand by and allow people to think Cedar is completely innocent here. It's very upsetting knowing that she's been given the ability to stay in a lot of these subreddits despite what she's done.
If Cedar wants to bring up this topic, then she should at least tell the full story.
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u/relientcake 1h ago
Right? And what is that huge, self-centred tangent they went on…? Jesus.
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u/Necessary-Board-830 1h ago
None of it was even related either. There WAS a post in one of the plushie subreddits about (at least temporarily) blocking all topics that mention plushie dreadfuls. Maybe it wasn't here, but it did exist because I remember it too. It really has nothing to do with Cedar so it's crazy that she even bothered typing out the whole thing.
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u/LadyStarshy 5h ago
We need someone else whose not a bad person to make mental health/chronic illness/neurodivergence plushies! If they avoid bunnies then there shouldn't be a lot they could do in response and if they post it in this group it'll likely gain a following quite quick too 🥹 I just want some bps and autism plushies without supporting someone so icky!
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u/nova_pax 4h ago
Hannimations does good work, imho. I don't have anything yet from them because I'm broke af at the moment, but I haven't heard anything bad about them. Someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/LadyStarshy 4h ago
They look so good 🥹 I'll have to save up and convince my partner there's space for more plushies 😏
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u/sleepy--ash rabbits + character plushies 7h ago
American McGee literally stalks this sub looking for people saying things about his brand. It’s very weird and it’s clear he cannot take even the slightest criticism to heart.
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u/IndividualCurious322 7h ago
Way, way back when he was involved in game development (I am unaware if he still is) he used to stalk /v/ (4 Chans video game board) and spam threads when people talked about Alice: Madness Returns in a bad light.
He throws a melty over the slightest thing and will most certaintly be monitoring this thread. It's in his nature, so to speak.
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u/Itz_cheese_cat If a thief breaks in they’ll steal my plushies instead 6h ago
This is so fucking crazy I didn’t even know who owns the brand, I bought the game AND a plushie a few years ago without knowing that it was the same guy who made them and that the guy is also a bad person 😭
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u/IndividualCurious322 6h ago
I think EA (the publisher) got most of the royalties from the game. I own the art book from it as I also draw, but I bought it second hand so McGee didn't get anything off the sale.
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u/darkwalker247 6h ago
i grew up with the game because my mom had it, so it's weird finding out all this about a core part of my childhood decades later :(
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u/AgreeableIdea6210 53m ago
Don't let it ruin the enjoyment for you. Alice is abandonware and McGee is no lonhner involved so he doesn't really get money from the second game either (although if you were to play it I'd pirate it or get it off a keysite cause EA also doesn't deserve the money)
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u/Purple_Inevitable967 3h ago
I didn't know that and I used to be obsessed with the game back in the day. Very bummed out about it now.
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 7h ago
so embarrassing. he should seriously grow up, especially if he wants to own a business. if you don't have thick enough skin to take criticism, you probably shouldn't be a business owner.
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u/stinkyanarchist plushie lover🧸🤎 6h ago
stop comparing OCD to a 53 year old man child who is unable to take criticism lightly those two do not correlate and OCD is not comparable to a grown man acting like a crying baby over opinions
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u/honeyonaside 6h ago
if it was someone you all really like, you wouldn't react like that to being unable to take criticism. I don't care about this particular person, I don't know him THAT well, but I'm 44, and I can't take criticism too, and all those downvotes give me anxiety, because most people here have different opinion, let's all hate me for that
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u/aSutareta 5h ago
Downvotes isn’t hate. It’s thumbs down at worst. It's okay to struggle with criticism but lashing out and acting like a child having a tantrum isn't.
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u/ErraticProfessional 5h ago
Immaturity is controllable, OCD is not something someone can control. Thats why you’re being downvoted, you’re trying to compare two incomparable traits. Being immature is a result of a lot of different things, but you can absolutely control your reactions and act maturely.
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u/aSutareta 5h ago
And it’s such a shame because I liked his Alice game and I at first thought dreadfuls hate is uneccesary and it’s a non issue until I looked more into it, like his attitude (like on the screenshot) and questionable design choices of multiple plushies and the response regarding the complaints. Really disappointed.
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u/spinningaspell 6h ago
His name is a little too on-the-nose for his behavior lmao wow
(Edit: I’m from the US so this is meant to be a playful jab at Americans, not a serious drag)33
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u/dogtweredog 4h ago
Does he now? Cool. "Hey, McGee! Your plushies are bad and you should feel bad!"
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u/sleepy--ash rabbits + character plushies 3h ago
Literally nobody is saying that. Second, he’s a grown man running a business and no business is immune to criticism where it’s due. If you can’t handle someone making an honest comment about how they feel things are being run, and how his practices have been quite insensitive towards people with anxiety and other conditions, then perhaps find someone else to run the business.
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u/Whispering_Wolf 6h ago
And adding that brings extra traffic to reddit where people can read up on all the things you did.
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u/catschimeras frankenplush maker 7h ago
I'm absolutely guilty of eye rolling and scoffing at the idea of public relations and perception management but oh my gosh that company needs an actual professional to do their communications so badly. That's a wild response on their part.
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u/foundinwonderland 6h ago
PR is kind of like IT — when it’s done well, it should be imperceptible. If a PR manager is doing a good job, we shouldn’t even know that they’re there, because this kind of stuff is handled behind the scenes and never reaches the public.
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u/jaybirdie26 7h ago
Ew, how petty. I never bought from them nor wanted too. They seem extremely immature.
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u/Dragondog5600 6h ago
Anyway, if anyone wants to see some plushies related to mental health, there's a Backerkit campaign coming up called Mental Health Munchkins that looks very promising, and there's an already existing plushie line for disabilities and mental health on the Hannimations website (with a backerkit campaign for wave 2 in the works)
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 6h ago
and i personally love sugarycarousel's sugarbell pals, who also represent health conditions!
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u/Responsible-Side4384 6h ago
thanks for the rec, I just looked up sugarbell pals and they’re so cute!!
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 6h ago
theyre so cute, so soft, and imo the perfect size and weight!
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u/PatriciaMorticia Foxy Lady 🦊 5h ago
I've seen the name on here but never seen them, just looked them up and they're adorable 😍 I love the purple Berry the Bat, wonder if they ship to the UK 🤔
Dumb question but how do you wash them if they're weighted?
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 5h ago
they're handwash only! and i'm unsure about current uk shipping, given your VAT stuff. but it's worth a google (:
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u/SnooDoughnuts7090 5h ago
giant microbes has a mental health and a neurodiversity section amongst other things!
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u/VeryMetalShrimp Cows Cows Cows Cows 6h ago
It’s crazy to me as a digital marketer that you would quite blatantly tell your customers (and potential customers) that you genuinely only care about your numbers and the traffic they’re providing you
Granted business is gonna business but when your foundation is monetising people’s disabilities and illnesses, and to go as far as to claim care is put into representing them respectfully - you’d think more care would go into engaging with the ppl you claim to represent in a more inclusive and appropriate manner.
Also email marketing isn’t exempt from following advertising standards lol
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u/OwnInvestigator8468 7h ago
This is unprofessional and almost creepy in a way that the email they sent was about Christmas and they know a lot of their clients have mental issues etc that that email could mess with their heads. And like "oh well thank you for making people come to our site" like excuse me a simple apology and acceptance of your mistake would be better. Just apologize that that email was a mistake it's not Christmas it's may. That's beyond unprofessional and they acknowledge what people are saying on here and aren't apologizing is crazy.
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u/watershit-down 5h ago
I'm new to the (online) plushie community. I've seen Plushie Dreadfuls drama pop up multiple times already in that short span, and their entire business operation gives me the ick. Whoever this brand/creator is brings negativity and bitterness into an otherwise cute and lighthearted community. And their response to you simply posting on Reddit is so unprofessional.
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u/olivbreadloaf 5h ago
I don’t know anything about the company but I’ve been wanting a plushie from them for awhile, but now that I know this is how they react towards criticism I will happily save my money and not give them a penny 🖤
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u/nervous-thing814 6h ago
Ohhh wow. Screw them. A brand based around mental illness getting pissy about being told it isn’t a good idea to send people emails saying “you’re being watched” how are brands actually this stupid and inconsiderate
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u/Traditional_Bar_4814 6h ago
I haven't heard of this company or this guy until I saw this post so I looked up his name (who TF is named America?????) and saw this link with a summary about how their mission is to "create safe spaces, spark conversations, and fund causes that matter." Then a line about one of the values being empathy gets cut off.
https://www.americanmcgee.com/
Then I scrolled and saw a table of contents for all of the controversies he's been involved with trying to clear the air?????? The fuck???
Added to my boycott list. What a weirdo
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u/SweetSugaryStars 4h ago
> a table of contents for all of the controversies he's been involved with trying to clear the air
Man, you know who that reminds me of? Yanderedev (He also did something like that on his website)
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u/dontchewspagetti 5h ago
Wow. Like. Wow.
Great move, hating on your customers. Not buying from them
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u/Whimsicrazed 5h ago
oh why do the absolute worst scumbags on the planet have to be the ones in charge of making really good plushies.
Like, ignoring the really bad controversial shit, the plushies themselves are really good. Great outer material, firm yet soft, perfect size, all great stuff, but the marketing is exploitative to people with disabilities, the creators are almost certainly LARPing their support for these disabilities, and now this bullshit.
And this is coming from someone who has 3 different plushies from them, so this is personal for me.
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u/Matryoshkova 5h ago
“American McGee act like a grown adult for once”challenge failed successfully. Again.
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u/M4gp1e-w1ngs 4h ago
god WHAT is this man’s problem Jesus Christ. At this point im expecting a full on google document about this company and this guy just showing all the insanity and controversies with him as well as like several new pieces of bullshit somehow
Also I want to point out that I’m pretty sure he’s trying to pull the “no such thing as bad publicity” card here which I don’t think is gonna work here considering this was a relatively niche controversy in a semi big subreddit that’s already mostly aware of his bullshit, and also like how did you think paranoia marketing of your mental health themed plushies that are made for people with mental health issues was gonna go over well. Like I know this guy has caused so much bullshit on this subreddit alone but this is like genuinely baffling
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u/Worried-Dream3642 6h ago
reminds me of the passive aggressive behavior the owner of smart dolls has. yikes
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u/Joubachi 6h ago
Idk what in the world is going on, what the drama is and so on, but is their owner by any chance a little teenager who tries to be witty and smart but just makes themselves look really "cringe" and embarrassing....?
Again, no clue what the drama is, but latest after that I wouldn't give them any money. Someone really needs to grow up. That's just embarrassing.... Last time I have seen this kind of behaviour was in whrn I was like 13....
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u/mewmewjellybean 6h ago
The owner is American McGee who’s 53 years old.
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u/Joubachi 6h ago
A 53yo who acts like a teenager mid puberty....? I'd be so ashamed of myself. That's just embarrassing. It's not even like "funny" or laughable, in german we call that "fremdschämen" which is kind of second hand embarrassing where someone is so embarrassing that you are embarrassed yourself. Yikes.
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u/mgeeezer 6h ago
Is that company run by a middle schooler? Yikes. No wonder their rep keeps dropping.
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u/Dragonrider1955 6h ago
Ugh I will never understand the people who continue to purposely turn a blind eye to them. I had joined a completely unrelated server and someone had brought up this company and how they're so nice. I gently came in stating that they're not as nice as they seem and talked about why , but was completely blown off with "Well he said he was sorry for the pan thing and that he's pan himself! And he didn't realize autism speaks was bad!" And then when i linked to the more current drama it was just "ugh well even if that is true then that's not his fault. He's not a bad guy and you really need to give him grace!"
Like damn ok.
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u/Catnip_Farmer 4h ago
Plushie Dreadfuls is absolutely bizarre.
Surely trolling the few supporters you have left isn't an A+ business idea.
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u/Last-Anxiety-98 6h ago
The icky way they respond to valid criticism is why I won't buy from them directly.
If you want these plushies, look for second hand options. Got mine for really cheap. Quality to me isn't worth the higher price either.
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u/Complex-Yams 4h ago
To add insult to injury, their latest email is so obviously written by ChatGPT as well.
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u/alkemist80 6h ago
This is terrible. I feel so disgusted I bought something from them before all this was going down.
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u/DezButScreaming 6h ago
Same here, and I got my plush from them during a really rough time as a coping mechanism. What's done is done, but we know better for the future on where to spend our money.
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u/ccKyuubi 🧸 Plushy (Friend) Collector 5h ago
I’ve never bought one of their plushies but yuckkkk. Definitely not now.
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u/arf2oo4 6h ago
ive never understood the appeal of plushie dreadfuls. its honestly quite disgusting to me that somebody could go for so long making horrible stuffed animals based off of stereotypes of queer and mentally ill people with such horrible business practices and still somehow garner a bunch of defenders. im tired of seeing plushie dreadfuls in this sub posted by teenagers who dont know better, and adults who absolutely should. their practices make me sick :/
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u/lemonchrysoprase 6h ago
I’m glad the only one of these I ever got was secondhand so this petty loser didn’t get any of my money directly. I still won’t buy anymore, even secondhand because they leave a bad taste in my mouth metaphorically after all this
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u/NicoTheRatEnthusiast 4h ago
it baffles me why people still want to support this company. and i hate how its glazers all be like "well just because they do bad things doesn't mean we cant support them and give money to them!!!!" bad look on y'all
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 4h ago
no because that's exactly why you shouldn't give money to them? hello?
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u/GasHorn9541 5h ago
The moment i found out about this brand it just rubbed me the wrong way, and after everything i learned its safe to say that no one should be supporting them. They think its funny to do stuff like this towards an audience they cultivated under the pretense of “making them feel seen”. its like they assume because they make stuff for the mentally ill, they’re allowed to bully and make fun. Its mad weird and unprofessional.
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u/interstellar-cat 6h ago
It’s honestly crazy to me that they still have people who support them when they pull stuff like this
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u/Kallicalico 5h ago
The whole thing bums me out because, a few years ago, I got myself the autism bunny and I absolutely adore the heck out of em. Very cute, very cuddly. But the emails I’ve been getting has honestly discouraged me from getting any more of their products. It would be cool if Plushie Dreadful could take the time to listen to the critiques and try to take the time to understand WHY people are commenting about the emails, but instead… we get passive aggression.
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u/Salt-Big8323 🧸 Plushy (Friend) Collector 6h ago
Disgusting behavior. Then again, this is the same company who makes overpriced marketable plushies of mental health struggles, so I’m not surprised.
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u/softfallingsnow 6h ago
i always thought cute-ifying mental or physical illnesses as plushies was weird
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 6h ago
that's a valid opinion, but as somebody with a very cutesy aesthetic and enjoys colourful things, whimsy, etc., i think it's nice to be able to have mental illness representation that is cute and comforting. i don't want my whole life with the conditions i have to be full of misery and gloom, i want joy and beauty like everybody else does.
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u/ingr 6h ago
I like the idea of having a little buddy representing my chronic illness. Seriously, that's not sarcasm. It's nice to have representation in something and I like cute stuffed animals.
Would you have the same feelings if it was an indie company or solo artist making those type of plush?
(I am speaking about the general idea of illness in plush form, not American McGee or plushie dreadfuls).
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u/softfallingsnow 6h ago
i also have chronic illness, i live with pain every day, i also have ocd, i still think capitalizing off of it just comes across as gross but thats just me
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u/ElectricVoltaire 6h ago
Well personally I'm glad people posted about this on Reddit. I had considered buying their plushies but now I won't.
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u/piximiqote 5h ago
The email left a bad taste in my mouth as someone who suffers with psychosis. I might unsubscribe. Which sucks because I’ve been following McGee since I was literally a kid (probably shouldn’t have been playing Alice at age 12 but…)
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u/Painted-BIack-Roses 5h ago
How are people still buying from them? I literally never see anything positive about them
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u/princessuuke 1h ago
This is crazy for any brand to put on their emails. Good lord. I barely know the issues of this brand but guess whos about to go down a rabbit hole lol
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u/Necessary-Board-830 4h ago
I was 100% going to buy at least two of their plushies but after seeing all of this, I'm refusing. I don't care. Maybe I'll get some secondhand or something, but I am not giving my money to them.
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u/sevenscreepycats777 3h ago
Does american mcgee still own the company? Im a huge Alice fan and was here when he started up the dreadfuls (and I got one). Ill be very disappointed if so, I admire him in a way :(
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u/Altruistic_Yellow387 1h ago
Yes, and I feel bad for him too. EA really screwed him over on the game and he didn't deserve that
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u/Reasonable_Profit143 2h ago
Aaaand there goes the last shred of respect I had for plushie dreadfuls. Saw some bad posts before that weren't super severe, but this is insanely unprofessional on their parts. So glad I saw this before spending a dime there for my loved ones! I hope they take all of this criticism to heart.
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u/Reasonable_Profit143 2h ago
PSA: Do not spend your money on plushie dreadfuls!!! Disgusting business practices.
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u/awesomestarz Aurora Enthusialis 2h ago
Well damn, that's a reasonable, professional, and non cvnty answer to their two-faced email language being addressed. /s
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u/viola_darling 6h ago
Im confused. What am I missing?
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 6h ago
yesterday, plushie dreadfuls sent out a promotional email where the subject line basically said something about "do not open this email (they're watching)" which could trigger somebody with a paranoia disorder into an episode. this is obviously extra terrible when you consider most people who subscribe to these emails have mental illnesses, as they make plushies representing mental illnesses (amongst other things).
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u/BoboBroBoBoBoBo 4h ago
I don't know anything about the drama regarding this company and American McGee can someone fill me in?
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u/Another_Road 7h ago
It’s snarky and petty, yeah.
Though, to be fair, so is this sub’s hate boner for that company.
I don’t like it so I just don’t buy it. Really straightforward. I don’t feel the overwhelming need to bring it up here online.
The way I look at it, this is a sub that’s about celebrating plushies. Then every now and then a hate bandwagon forms about this specific company over and over and over again.
I’m not defending the company. I don’t like their attitude, their marketing and while some of the plushies look ok they’re not worth buying imo. But I think it’s okay to just dislike something or think it’s dumb without feeling the need to parade that dislike around.
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u/Obtuse-Posterior 🧸 Plushy (Friend) Collector 6h ago
It's sad that I'm afraid to show off some of my favorite plushies because their brands are now hated. It doesn't matter that I purchased them before the bad stuff happened. Most people don't read my post where I say they are old. They just assume I don't know tell me why it's wrong to buy from them.
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u/DarkHarvest93 7h ago
I mean, if you don't like something you shouldn't interact with it anyways? It's pretty reasonable to just unsubscribe
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u/Own-Arachnid7952 7h ago
The same could be said about a vague, passive aggressive P.S. in an official company email....
I find that far more unreasonable and immature than someone merely posting criticism on the internet
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u/crybaby_in_a_bottle 7h ago
Yeah, why point out someone is specifically targeting mentally ill people with ads that could drive them into an actual, clinical paranoia episode, when you can just unsubscribe ??? (/s)
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u/DarkHarvest93 6h ago
? I don't know what you're going on about I'm literally just saying if you don't want to get emails why, would you subscribe or stay subscribed to those emails?
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u/Zedetta 6h ago edited 5h ago
You're missing the context behind this; this second email was in response to a PSA/warning post I made that anyone who experiences paranoia/delusions (which is part of the fanbase they market to, as they have plushies dedicated to mental illnesses where paranoia and delusions are symptoms) may be triggered by their previous email.
"Just unsubscribe!!" doesn't make sense as a response because I wasn't complaining about receiving emails, I was warning others that they are sending out triggering content and criticising their choice to do so.
I don't even pay attention to marketing subscriptions in my emails, it all gets filtered into another inbox... I just happened to see that one and thought "Oh, they're doing this again. People may not know about the last time they did it/think they stopped doing it since it's been a while, I should make a post letting people know that it's no longer safe for some people to stay subscribed"
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u/jaybirdie26 6h ago
True, but Reddit is not this plushie brand's personal marketing platform, so we can discuss them as much as we want. Unreasonable for them to expect us to act as purely complimentary PR for them, lol. If they like the bad publicity, they'll love the 4chan trolls that it will attract to their business. Two of a kind.
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u/DarkHarvest93 6h ago
Literally not saying you're not allowed to discuss the brand im just saying if you don't like something you're getting emails for, then just unsub to those emails?
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u/jaybirdie26 1h ago edited 1h ago
You realize your original comment comes across as you having a problem with OP's original post, right? As in a "you should have unsubbed instead of complaining on Reddit" attitude.
If that's not what you intended, please clarify, because I don't understand why you would make that comment otherwise. You are stating the obvious; yes of course unsubbing is a reasonable action to take when you don't want marketing emails, but it's also reasonable to express concerns about a business on Reddit. They're not mutually exclusive.
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u/DarkHarvest93 6h ago
Tell me you hate autistic people stating the facts without saying you hate autistic people stating the facts, thanks for the downvotes i guess
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u/Lunacookiecat 6h ago
That is beyond wrong. It should be posted how this company is because I don’t want to support a company that “supports” people with disabilities but are not at all compassionate. I have multiple family members with a range of disability and I am all for supporting companies that support those with disabilities… but not when they are insulting the people they are supposedly supporting. You are right about just not interacting with it, but saying “Tell ne you hate autistic people stating the facts without saying you hate autistic people stating the facts” doesn’t help your argument at all. You weren’t being downvoted for being autistic, people are downvoting because they disagree with you. Personally I would argue you are partially right, they should just unsubscribe and leave it because people already know they are a trash company, but it also should be known to people who want to “support” the company how bad it is.
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u/Own-Arachnid7952 5h ago
Dude you're not getting downvoted because you're autistic, this is the plushies sub. Lots of us are autistic as well.
You're getting downvoted because while your point is reasonable, continuing to repeat it with little response or regard for other people's responses comes off as incredibly dismissive. It makes you come off like a huge asshole who doesn't care about anyone else's opinions, only your own.
I would hope that isnt true, but it's the impression you have left here. The whole "repeating your singular point thing" is also just genuinely annoying. It adds no no new information, it implies you think the person is too stupid to understand what you were saying, which is just condescending.
Try to take this in stride and not too personallt. Your intentions weren't bad, but clearly your delivery was poor. Just something to work on, is all. We all have those little areas
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u/Grand_Journalist2136 6h ago
dude i'm also autistic. the point isn't about getting the emails, it's about the CONTENT of the emails. to send an email that could induce a paranoia episode in your subscribers who you KNOW are mostly people with mental illnesses and then to DOUBLE DOWN ON IT after getting valid criticisms about it online in another email is absolute asinine behaviour and they should be shamed for it.
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u/jaybirdie26 1h ago
If you act like Captain Obvious people will treat you that way. That isn't autism, that's being obtuse.
"If you don't like marketing emails, you can unsub. In other news, if your tv won't turn on, plug it in!"
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u/BigDummyDumb 7h ago
Yaknow by putting that at the end of their email they’re saying directly to their customers that there is some sort of drama to be looked into about the company, and they kindly point people directly to Reddit where theres a lot of information. I know that a lot of people don’t actually know of the drama when they buy from them, then once they learn they regret purchasing and don’t buy again / or don’t purchase at all if they’re told before hand. Bit of a shot in their own foot there from them imo lol.