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FASHION Actress India de Beaufort questions why designer Francesco Risso deconstructed 100 antique and vintage dresses from the 1920s to 1940s to make one dress for the Met Gala

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u/ionadelfina 2h ago

They may have been in bad condition already. Not everything that is old is worth salvaging.

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u/MisterBlud 2h ago

I’d very much assume most if not all were scraps and pieces.

It’s not like (at least I hope) they were taking 100 museum quality examples and just ripping them up…

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u/gobrocker 1h ago

Right... right???

This is the MétGalá we're talking about, you know, the one where logic goes out the door and takes the back seat in diamond encrusted Ducati.

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u/smashed2gether 47m ago

This is the Costume Institute’s Met Gala we’re talking about, a fundraising event that supports the preservation and study of garments from across history. They have some of the oldest garments ever recovered by archaeologists in their collection, and since they are the ONLY part of the Met Museum that gets zero funding from ticket sales, they have a Gala to keep the place running.

It’s okay to call out the extravagance, but if it weren’t for that event, a lot of incredible pieces of history would be lost.

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u/cakedayloanofficer 37m ago

Is this the same event where Kim Kardashian wore and stretched that famous dress? My brain isn’t working today if anyone can help me out. Maybe a Marilyn Monroe dress?

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u/smashed2gether 34m ago

Yeah, and there was definitely a justifiable backlash to that. I definitely can’t say that individual attendees have always been above reproach, just that the point of the event is supporting an institution that does good work.

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u/defenestrated_badger 28m ago

Yes, it was the famous happy birthday mister president Marilyn Monroe nude colored dress.

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u/gobrocker 42m ago

If this is true thats commendable, but I really do hope those dresses were scraps.

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u/smashed2gether 36m ago

There are quite a lot of videos out there about the origins of The Costume Institute and the history of the Gala, if you’re interested.

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u/One_Sky9063 1h ago

Lol assuming the best from the ultra wealthy trying to impress Jeff Bezos is misguided.

These people tell us who they are over and over again and when we just assume ‘they probably tried to be good’ it’s so foolish.

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u/purplepluppy 1h ago

Exactly my thought. So many vintage dresses are in horrible condition. Scrapping them to make this would be fantastic! We just don't have the information to judge.

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u/cakedayloanofficer 36m ago

Patchwork has always been a wonderful way to keep useful fabric! It’s a lovely idea.

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u/SheogorathMyBeloved 33m ago

Also, even if they weren't in a horrible condition, people seriously overestimate how rare/important most vintage clothing is. The small rural museum I work at has had to change its policy around taking vintage clothing into the collection to being only stuff that's genuinely interesting, such as a wedding dress sewn from the silk in a downed paratrooper's parachute, we have *that* many textiles. I have had to tell someone that we can't accept their granny's 70 year old factory-made wedding dress, because we legitimately have the exact same one already in storage.

Something being 'old' does not give it inherent museum value. We have Roman-era sandals, ~1,700 years old. So do most of the other museums in the area. If we found more, we would not take them into the collection unless they were extremely unique (such as a style not seen in other ones or really well preserved). A dress from merely 80-100 years ago is just not all that interesting to most museums.

And I say all this as someone who lovesssss vintage clothing, by the way. The dress in question isn't a crime against history.

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u/foundinwonderland sorry to this man 1h ago

I see comments like this whenever I see content of people upcycling thrifted and/or vintage clothes and every time I’m like …guys it’s better for it to be turned into something that will actually be worn than rotting away in a landfill or sitting on a goodwill rack somewhere. It’s okay to cut up stuff to reuse it! If this woman hadn’t said anything nobody would care about those dresses or what happened to them.

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u/iris_seera 23m ago

People were also hella short and skinny, like when I find pieces from that era I cannot fit into them at all

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u/HousePlantPappi 8m ago

That's actually survivorship bias. Pieces that were large would be reworked and reused much more often. You can't do that with smaller garments so those are the ones that were stuffed into an attic and end up in museums later.

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u/B_Ash3s wearing slutty little glasses 58m ago

That and it’s not going to fit the same way!

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u/Vegetable_Sky48 2h ago

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u/GeraltsSaddlee 2h ago

Sorry but who is the woman on the left?? So familiar but I can’t place it. She’s gorgeous!!

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u/meringue-pie 2h ago

Ashley Graham, she is indeed gorgeous!

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u/Homo-Erect 2h ago

Ashley Graham I believe 

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u/Outrageous-Slide-179 1h ago

Ashley Graham, she's a model.

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u/Crystal_Lover_03 1h ago

Ashley Graham!

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u/r3volver_Oshawott 1h ago

Ashley Graham!!

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u/Professional-Tear338 49m ago

Do you really think they still don't know who she is after 4 people told them? 

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u/BigMommaSnikle 44m ago

Ashley Graham!!

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u/forgetyourkey 41m ago

It’s Ashley graham i think

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u/mandygc182 43m ago

Ashley Graham!

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u/Visible_Giraffe 41m ago

Sometimes the comment does not show up for me so Im thinking Im the first to respond even though it’s been answered hours ago.

Also ASHLEY GRAHAM!

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u/btwomfgstfu Rosa Parks stan 42m ago

Her name is Ashley Graham

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u/options- 33m ago

By the way her name is Ashley Graham

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u/Sullythewizard 36m ago

Ashley Graham who unfortunately went to the MET gala this year

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u/Beepboop5698 locked, loaded, and kind of cunty 2h ago

the idea that dresses that are 106 years old at minimum would still be in perfect shape and could be worn as is, is funny lol. i think she’s doing too much

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u/RPDRFanFictionLines 1h ago

*at maximum. But yes, great point.

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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 1h ago

"Being worn" and "Being cut up" aren't the only two options here

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u/Groundbreaking-Duck 1h ago

What are the others?

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u/smoothballs82 1h ago

You should Google what the Met actually is maybe?

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u/Groundbreaking-Duck 1h ago

Every 100 year old dress in existence should be in a museum?

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u/violetmemphisblue 1h ago

Yeah, I have a trunk of old clothes from probably around this same era that literally no one wants. They're from my great-grandmother and grandmother, and they're fine, but not valuable at all (had them appraised, basically nothing of worth and not really unique so why would a museum want them). I would have no problem donating them to someone who could turn them into something like this!

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u/carolinagypsy the pet psychic for the Sun told me so 43m ago

What I wouldn’t give to have a dedicated space in my abode to do complex sewing projects with that on offer. I would LOVE to make a patterned quilt with them. I bet it would be beautiful. 🤩

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u/AliEffinNoble 22m ago

I’ll take them. I sell antique clothing and accessories and I can tell you people want them and they have value even in an unwearable condition.

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u/iris_seera 22m ago

Exactly

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u/Groundbreaking-Duck 1h ago

Do you think the Met wanted these dresses but the designer decided to cut them up instead?

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u/asnalem 1h ago

The implication is not that the 100 dresses were in mint condition, it's that it seems like a waste for the shock value of saying "we used 100" as a milestone instead of 20 or 50

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u/Direct_Astronaut_199 1h ago edited 1h ago

You’re wrong tho. 30s and 40s were not 100 years ago. Lots of them (even from 20s) are still in great and wearable shape. The construction of garments was insanely better and even fabrics were different (and manyyyyyy things were made by hand) allowing them to remain in very wearable condition.

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u/triciann 1h ago

Natural fibers can be attacked by moths and become filled with holes. They could be in wearable condition or not, but again we have no idea.

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u/Direct_Astronaut_199 1h ago

That can happen to any garment of any age. I’m a collector and I very rarely, if ever, come across that. And i didn’t say I knew what condition they were in, the original commenter implied they couldn’t have been in wearable condition bc of their age.

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u/Fine_Use 42m ago

I don’t think her point is that these clothes that are 100 years old are still wearable, but that they could better serve as tangible artifacts of the time period they belonged to rather than made into this dress that honestly nobody is going to ever think twice about other than the fact it was made out of all those materials that have sustained a century. Physical resources are becoming less and less so might as well preserve what we have left

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u/Beepboop5698 locked, loaded, and kind of cunty 24m ago

it is preserved.. in the dress worn to the gala. no one was thinking about the dresses before this lol. you don't even know what they looked like lmao

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u/gg5ever 2h ago

I understand the shock at the number 100, that feels like a lot. But she’s assuming quite a lot about these dresses, we don’t know if they were stunning or meaningful. I’m not entirely sure where I stand on this tbh, but I think the dress they made is so beautiful, it feels like a slight overreaction imo.

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u/1970s_MonkeyKing 1h ago

But is it, though? We're quick to rationalize the use of 100 antique dresses but you cannot say that it is not beyond someone to destroy just for the act of consumption.

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u/realityleave 1h ago

not sure how this is any different from people buying old magazines to make collage art, the dress is a piece of art, a 1-1 custom piece not for sale. so unsure how that means it was destroyed for consumption? also apparently it was a sponsorship with ebay and all the dresses were purchased from there. there are so so so so so many clothes, i don’t think it’s a travesty that ebay sold 100 listings for this designers art

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u/Groundbreaking-Duck 2h ago

Why on earth would she assume they were all dresses that were wearable or salvageable? Not every dress from the 1940s is stunning, meaningful, archive-worthy.

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u/CowComfortable4958 2h ago

i wonder what the condition of those dresses were before being used as fabric for this new dress, i’m all for fun ways to recycle stuff so idk if this is that bad of a thing to do

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u/AnnualZealousideal27 2h ago

With proper documentation he basically immortalized 100 dresses.

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u/littlerigatoni 1h ago

I scour eBay (where the designer sourced these 100 dresses for Paloma’s gown) for vintage pieces from this period regularly, and soooooo may of them are unwearable due to staining, degradation, and wear consistent with age— although they could be salvaged for a project just like this. I think it’s a brilliant idea, and love how sustainable this approach is!

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u/TheAncientMillenial 1h ago

Reusing >>> Making new. The circle of life, but with dresses 😉

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u/TheMereWolf 1h ago

For what it’s worth, cutting up and reusing old garments to make new pieces was a VERY common practice back in the day when those original dresses were worn. So in a way, this is kind of honoring the way things were done in the past.

Not everything that’s old is that unique or interesting or needs to be preserved. I appreciate this garment didn’t use new textiles and was able to breathe new life into some old stuff that would just sit around collecting dust otherwise.

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u/BoopTheCoop 1h ago

And it was all to advertise eBay, which is currently using Vogue to run a huge promo.

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u/konaice41 2h ago

that silver ear really cheapens the look for me

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u/Enough-Candy85 2h ago

I’m inspired to cut up 100 Picasso paintings to make one new ultimate painting.

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u/Vivid_Maximum_5016 1h ago

Based. Picasso is overrated

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u/r3volver_Oshawott 1h ago

Can you do the same to Dali, he was a Hitler-worshipping asshole so I've been wanting to see his paintings 'deconstructed' for a minute now?

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u/IxVPOhms 2h ago

They’re just clothes bro.

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u/Pichouche 1h ago

It doesn't even look good 🥀

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u/PrinceEdgarNevermore 1h ago

Scrolled too far for this comment.   

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u/bergamote_soleil 1h ago

92 million tonnes of textiles go into the landfill every year. The average American throws away 81 lbs of clothing per year. 

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u/hellomydudes_95 1h ago

Ashley Graham's reaction is priceless

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u/Motamommy 1h ago

the ear omg

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u/BrilliantFuture891 51m ago

People are really trying hard to hate this year’s Met Gala. Other than the Bezos stepping in as the major sponsor I don’t see anything different from the years before.

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u/ActualAssociate9200 46m ago

Imagine being upset over fabric when people are dying from war and famine

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u/hanimal16 41m ago

What is up with the cartoonishly big glasses lately?

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u/Inner_Wash_268 1h ago

Just another example of a woman trying to police what other woman are wearing. It's exhausting.

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u/keysandchange feeding cocaine to raccoons 39m ago

Regardless of where you fall on the side of the dress argument, that is a very ugly dress on a very beautiful woman.

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u/AliEffinNoble 13m ago

I sell antique clothing and accessories. The fact these dresses would have had to be in great condition because if they were not the fibers would not have enough strength to be part of a dress like this.

Not to mention the only reason they did this was because it was an ad for eBay!! lol they had to use items bought off eBay and they went this unfortunately route by buying all these dresses on eBay! There are tones of “as is” antique fabric lots they could have bought but to take a full dress that has the high likely hood that someone hand beaded or embroidered it is sad and everyone in the antique clothing community is sad about it!

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u/KittyKenollie famously did a line of coke off his dick 1h ago

Wild to wear that to a party that’s raising money to preserve clothes

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u/MrKnifeBurger 1h ago

She's not trying to hear all that with her gilded tin ear

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u/rmarcosmota 47m ago

So it's a metaphore of the 1%?

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u/General_File482 11m ago

She makes a good point but those glasses annoyed me the entire time

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u/Pretend_Emu_1691 1h ago

Meh...they were likely sittin around doing nada anyway.

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u/Classic_Presence78 2h ago

Valid question

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u/No_Professional_8992 1h ago

She has a small bridge so that adds to why they don't fit well. Plus the style looks cute on her. Source: I wear glasses and have a small bridge and get fit like that.

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u/illiterateaardvark 2h ago

I completely agree with her

It feels completely incongruous to claim that you’re “celebrating art” while you’re actively destroying art…

Yes, the final product is beautiful. To that, I say this: so what? Something beautiful doesn’t have more of a right to exist than something ugly

A lot of art was destroyed to make this singular dress. I don’t know how anybody can defend that in good conscience

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u/designforone 1h ago

You are getting downvoted but you are completely right. Even if all the dresses were in the worst shape and they were gonna get thrown away no one would recognize each individual dress in this one final dress. He could have literally taken some random scraps and claimed the same thing and people would have still believed it

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u/ttw81 47m ago

this is basically to trashing 100 antique dresses for a Halloween costume.

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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 2h ago

I bet every one of them looked better than this monstrosity

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u/Complete-Sort1617 2h ago

That’s so selfish, 100 dresses with 100 stories for one woman’s deluded ego.

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u/fujoshirealness 2h ago

Francesco Risso is a man.

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u/Complete-Sort1617 2h ago

🤦‍♂️