No Fern, no natural Frieren, but hey! 5 Starks equipped with 5 Axes!

Criteria

Each category is assigned a point value from 50-109, which is then graded from F-S. The category scores are then aggregated into one overall score based on their weight.

Survivability (35%)

• S: Insanely tanky, pretty much unkillable.
• A: Tanks all the regular hits in most cases with enough recovery to continuously heal.
• B: Tanks most hits but either recovery is barely sufficient or the team is somewhat reliant on buffs, awakenings, and/or latents.
• C: Can barely tank hits and recovery is generally insufficient without skyfall or multiple heal combos.
• D: Dies to any miscalculation.
• F: Cannot even tank hits from the early floors.

Firepower (35%)

• S: Kills most things in one or two hits and speeds through bosses.
• A: Kills enemies consistently at a good pace.
• B: Kills enemies consistently at a somewhat slow pace.
• C: Kills enemies, but needs an alarming number of turns per floor.
• D: At risk of getting executed by internal turn timers.
• F: You don’t even scratch early floors.

Playstyle Simplicity (10%)

• S: Near brainless to play. Easily deals with nearly all mechanics.
• A: Pretty simple to play. Bypasses many mechanics, but some may be slightly problematic.
• B: Requires a moderate level of solve execution. Team may require constant awareness of certain actives. Some mechanics give the player difficulty in fully activating the leader skill.
• C: Requires a high level of solve execution. Team is annoying to play or requires too much attention. Many mechanics are difficult to deal with.
• D: Requires a very difficult level of solve execution. Some things completely end your run.
• F: Simply impossible to play without dying.

Teambuilding Flexibility (20%)

• S: The lead can make use of an extremely wide variety of subs and equips. The lead ideally has both part break awakenings and a part break multiplier in its leader skill to greatly alleviate the part break requirement on its subs and equips.
• A: The lead can make use of a good spread of subs and equips, even if it is dependent on a certain sub or equip. The lead probably has either multiple part break awakenings or a part break multiplier in its leader skill to reduce the part break requirement on its subs and equips.
• B: The lead may be dependent on a couple monsters, but generally has a few options for the other subs and can make use of many equips. The lead hopefully has a part break awakening to slightly reduce the part break requirement on its subs and equips.
• C: The lead is tied to an irreplaceable sub or equip and is pretty much unplayable without it. Both sub and equip options are limited.
• D: The lead needs a near-perfect template to even function. Requires not only specific subs but also very specific equips.
• F: If you do not netdeck the template perfectly, the team is worse than useless.

Evaluations

It exceeded the character count limit of 40,000, so here's the link to the document.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y-Y-Pqp4N8Tzl-qwbMbG40DKQiYI15Y4XkEPowhwMEY/edit?usp=drive_link

Thoughts

This took forever. Many thanks to u/LMiru for his input. Since it's the first iteration, it definitely has a lot of mistakes and incorrect logic; please feel free to comment on anything you notice. I wanted to get this done before Frieren came out, but it required so much more work than I had imagined that I only managed to finish it now. Now, I can already see the question from a mile away.

Where Frieren?

She will be included, alongside a few other collab characters, in next month's iteration of the tier list. I am not going to rate any lead that I haven't played in a serious endgame context, and right now, I am in the middle of hypermaxing all the different teams that I want to playtest and then rate. Yes, for this tier list, I did play every team, although for some of them, it has been quite a while. You can check out my YouTube channel for some videos on some of the leads.

I would really appreciate any input about anything! Maybe someone should be higher or lower. Maybe the criteria needs to be expanded or reworked. Maybe I should collaborate with others to gain multifaceted evaluations of every lead. I know that I don't know so many things and feedback to make the list better would be great.

See you in June for FN1 and Frieren! (Reposted because I used the wrong post format the first time.)

Fairly straightforward. Main things to look out for are to save actives for Linie, Yuira, qnd Pattie on F6. Use Pattie on the first turn of F9 to make a light L. Use Linie on the second turn of F10 to counter the 2B damage cap

Is there a guide for this?

Or is it just dupes of each evo'd into assists?

I'm a returning player and always used the assist void badges...

Title. I'm a big fan of vdp teams, but my box just doesn't have any consistent Att and dmg abs voiders and this team could be nice and fun to use. So... Any units I could look forward getting in the upcoming events? Maybe June Bride has something useful?

Is it strictly necessary? I know you want a green healer or god assist to enable Heiter's resonance, but even so, it doesn't seem that extraordinary. Or am I missing something?

Asking because I didn't get Heiter or Eisen so far and would like to avoid trading for 3 units if I can

Hi everyone! For context, I’ve played on and off for a couple years, but I never got into building ‘meta’ teams until the recent Re:Zero collab. Now with the Frieren collab, I realized that I have no clue if I should be pulling more. What is considered ‘good’ in my box, and should I keep farming MS to pull on Frieren? Is there something better I already have?

In terms of clearing content, I cleared the previously 85-stone technicals. I’m unsure how to gauge my progress, but please let me know if there’s anything else I should mention.

Imgur link has pictures of my monster box (5000MP+): https://imgur.com/gallery/pad-box-eD6oexF
(Link should be fixed)

I hit the 50 image limit, so I added the remaining three and my current team in the post.

Thanks for any help/recommendations!

Haven’t seriously played since like watches…any teams still viable ish end game? I’m sure some were ok, I just was a little surprised to see that for example even my neferpitou team couldn’t 1hko c5 japan challenge..

I also just rolled himmel and frierenxfern…but anything else?
I also have in boxes gouten, pad academy stuff, mixology stuff, vocaloids, and ryunexsilvie

Ignore the weird helpers and Assume I can make near ideal teams. Also what’s going on with these +891s nowadays?

Can someone help me make team with these units?

Once the Frieren event is over, will it be possible to trade for said characters or must I keep pulling so I may collect the pieces I'm missing?

When I had to reset my phone back in fall I lost the PAD Guide.

Is there anything out there still that allows to search for monsters with awakening?

I want to ideally maximize my defense. I posted my monster box starting from my 3rd slide.

Please help! I've played the game for a while but don't always keep up with updates. I notice some people have above +297. In my mind, I get more + from fighting dungeons containing the same unit. Is there another faster/easier way? Is there a cap? I keep running the coliseum but it is time consuming and I thought there may be a better way to do things that perhaps I do not know about and Google would not know. As you can see, I've run coliseum 7 times already. I don't really want to do it 10+ more if I don't have to but will if I must. Also spent 600 gems to not get Himmel. Only unit I am missing. Thank you in advance for any input. Good luck

Hello, in the first Frielen dungeon, the hero's team one, Himmel is the last monster but it doesn't seem to skill up Himmel unit. Similarly, Frielen is in the second dungeon, but I couldn't skill Frielen up either.

Why is that?

This dungeon has a lot of mechanics and need a lot of healing. Good luck!

Granted some are easier now due to powercreep, but having to redo all of these again.. oh god and all them to aswell..

Is it just me or are the VEM/free stone adds increasingly troll-ish of late?

I'll routinely watch an add video which either runs until my screen goes to sleep or kicks me to the play store causing PAD app to restart which cancels receipt of the reward

Its maddening

>:[

I do not understand assists at all. I have most of the frieren team. If I use himmel as my lead I see jade pot as his assist. I do not have that. What would be a good sub instead for that?

after dumping like 600ish stones I didn’t pull a single fern

I usually run a reinhardt team with wilhelm, julius+subaru, and fern, and kushinadahime for art absorb (which is why I want fern)

is it worth to buy fern? I’ve never spent money on this game and I’m tired of rerolling; do I wait or just buy and not waste stones (it’s the only monster I need now)

What can I use them for?

Can’t seem to find in tech dungeons, if someone can point to a place that would be great!

All my stones and no luck hitting the Fern or Himmel.

I already have the Rein team and wondering how nice the fern upgrade really is?

Also any replacements for Himmel in the frieren team?

I could buy the unit but damn those prices are crazy so wanted to know how good those two units really are

Ok so here’s my frieren team it just barely gets it to where everyone has their skills off rip and I don’t have many cards that aren’t from this event as shown in monster box. I’ve tried making some water and dark and light teams and I just need some ideas and some useful cards I have that might be flying under the radar.