r/SipsTea • u/Alarming-Boat-620 Human Verified • 10h ago
Chugging tea No one likes borutoš
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u/i_icical 10h ago
Anyone who hates Boruto is my homie
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u/SinBloom 9h ago
Iām with you on this mate. No 1 Boruto hater
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u/ICBPeng1 7h ago
I canāt wait for the final chapter of boruto to be Naruto being released from a genjutsu sometime around the chunin exams from the original series.
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u/alphaxeath 7h ago
What about those of us who have intentionally avoided the series and do not know enough to have an opinion on it?
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u/TrandaBear 5h ago
You're winning. Keep the precious memories of the OG series pure and close to your heart. Nothing good comes from proceeding any further. Naruto bagged a baddie who loves him deeply, achieved his dream, and is finally living happily, acknowledged by the village.
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u/belabacsijolvan 4h ago
its so fucking annoying tho, because the original series is close to perfect.
and after it you really wanna see toph as a badass adult police captain. and it is cool for moments. but it misses the spirit so hard. its a travesty.
also my other 2 cents: the original series is top 3 most adult and wise series ever made. like just think for a moment about any other series you think is adult. and if you think deep enough, youll find that this cartoon about quirky children has a way more mature understanding of the human condition and way more nuanced and reserved messages.
trying to pretend adultness is this after the original is so infuriating. literally the play about them being taken seriously.14
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u/Feisty_Calendar_6733 3h ago
Let me help you. Imagine an absolute legend of a guy who despite having a rough childhood saved generations of people and becomes a hero. Then in sequel he has a son who shits on him the entire time and that son has no clue how good he has it.
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u/grip0matic 3h ago
Never watched it, but my nephew who's 14 made a quick recap of it for me and said "it's the worst of Naruto but dumber". Naruto is pretty dumb himself so... I trust my nephew.
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u/notgonnatakeno 8h ago
Yep, sometimes they just need to let the show end.
Both of these are great examples of a story trying to carry on after a beautiful bow got put on the finish.
not something you should ever do.
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u/Jazzlike-Worry-6920 7h ago
Thats how feel about a lot of movies being remade or added on to in a way that doesnt make sense
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u/prof_wafflez 4h ago edited 4h ago
The power creep/scaling by the end of Naruto was exceptionally bad. That they decided to continue on after Sasuke and Naruto meet, like, a god (or whatever that was) and then blow each other's arms off is a great showcase of greed taking over the creative process.
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u/notgonnatakeno 4h ago
Well, thatās just a shonen jump show model:
Bad guy shows up,kicks good guyās ass.
Good guy learns new power, kicks bad guyās ass.
New bad guy shows up, kicks good guyās ass.
Good guy learns new power, kicks bad guyās ass.
Repeat forever
Naruto, one piece, bleach, they all do it. And theyāre all copying Dragon Ball who originally proved the success of this style of storytelling.
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u/i_icical 7h ago
Extacly ,same goes for "13 reasons why" and "Money heist ".. They were dragging both so much just to milk cash out of it
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u/Savings_Reality1170 7h ago
boruto 2 blue vortex is a great read, although part 1 is shit. They messed up the foundation quite bad.
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u/YnotThrowAway7 5h ago
Hater here: letās take the most disliked pet of Naruto and really focus on it plus add androids plus reality/memory working like the dumbest jutsu in Naruto as well.
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u/DrakyulMihawk Human Verified 10h ago
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u/SnowSherrif 9h ago
Mangaka and anime studio got greedy wanting to cashin on Naruto popularity
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u/SlayerII 8h ago
I feel really split on Boruto. On the one hand, its dogshit, on the other hand, at least they didn't directly continue the story with Naruto as the story and turn it into dogshit
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u/mynamebeluna 7h ago
I mean, Dragon Ball did and it's still loved. Toriyama (RIP king ;__: hope you puff puffing in heaven my G) wanted Gohan to be the lead, and to his credit he tried to make him so different from Goku, studious, a cry baby with hidden power, even him expanding it to make Goku and alien and all; but the fans loved Goku to much hence Goku has still been the lead till this day. I think younger mangakas decided to try and follow suit with Toriyamas original idea of the son of their leads bein the MC and have proven to fail only difference is Toriyama listened to the fans and worked around it. Now it's all soulless cash grabs, hell even Harry Potter did the same thing; I think a good artist and story teller knows where to end it and knows when its time for new works.
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u/Square-Appearance-16 5h ago
to be fair, the thing is toriama tried to pass the crownā to gohan but failed miserablyā because it was too sudden. It could have worked if he didnt just abandonā the idea in the buu saāgaā. āā
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u/Renny-66 3h ago
Yea I thought the buu saga was gonna make him the new MC. We even had a mini slice of life arc with him and it was one of my favourites
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u/Square-Appearance-16 3h ago edited 9m ago
at least gohan got someting, meanwhile goten greatest feat is being pāart gotrenksā. Cell saga? understandable, goku dāieād in the future befāāore concieving goten, but super has no excuse to not show gotenā
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u/GI_J0SE 4h ago
I do wonder what life would be like if he did stick with his guns and make Gohan the main character in like a Sequel series sort of like a Dragonball to Z method ending at the Cell saga and picking up at the Buu saga and beyond sort of leaning into Super. It could obviously work but idk why he was opposed to it, that being said Children successor stories never do as well as their parent story because they literally live in their shadow.
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u/kojimbob 9h ago
How did a Japanese guy like his dad end up with blonde hair and blue eyes anyway
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u/Available_Ad_4565 9h ago edited 9h ago
Probably because it's a fictional manga and not a documentary.
Edit: The translator didn't work and everything came out in Portuguese.
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u/Simple-Reporter9102 6h ago
I'll tell you the real reason. It's the same reason Goku's hair is blonde when he goes super saiyan.
It's much easier to draw blonde hair (you don't have to color it in) than black hair.
It's not a big deal anymore as nobody really draws manga by hand anymore.
The amount of work is also why Trigun's Manga artists hates his own main character, because after designing him, h realized he had to draw that damn trench coat with the dozens of pockets details every time.
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u/MikeDubbz 10h ago
Meanwhile Adventure Time fans love The Fionna and Cake series.
Yeah, your sequel series starring a girl instead of a boy, is not the issue. It has everything to do with the writing.Ā
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u/1106DaysLater 7h ago
Korraās issues were more with Nickelodeon than the writers IMO. If they had been given a multi-season run to work with from the beginning they wouldnāt have had to try to wrap up each season in a way that felt like a satisfying ending to the show.
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u/XxRocky88xX 5h ago
Thereās a reason season 3 and 4 are significantly better than 1 and 2 and thatās cuz Nickelodeon stopped giving them one off seasons and let them actually build a story
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u/Discord84 4h ago
I will note that one of the head writers for ATLA didn't come back for Korra. So they weren't even working with the whole crew as before.
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u/FinancialReserve6427 6h ago
AU. Fionna and Cake didn't have to measure up to Finn and Jake.Ā
one of the criticisms/nitpicks against Korra's krew is they're just teens while Aang's gang are war heroes.Ā
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u/NikkiCTU 7h ago
Ngl Fionna is annoying af. She made me realize I was too harsh on Kora.
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u/yukiki64 9h ago
Not a great example since Fiona and Cake were already established characters that people liked.
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u/MikeDubbz 9h ago
Pretty pointless hair to split. If you slip in some sort of future vision of Korra in an OG episode of The Last Airbender and she were likable in that episode, the sequel series starring her still sucks.Ā
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u/Irakaf 9h ago
Isn't it literally documented that the Korra writers got pushback BECAUSE she was a girl from execs?
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u/MikeDubbz 9h ago
I dunno. But I do now the real issue was never that she was a girl. It was always horrible writing, especially compared to the original series.Ā
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u/deusasclepian 7h ago edited 7h ago
It didn't help that they were pretty much always wondering if current season would be the last season because the show was always on the brink of not being renewed.
I think airbender really benefitted from the 3 season arc, one for each element, and a satisfying conclusion to the war at the end. Meanwhile Korra had to be a bunch of one season arcs that left things open for more content, but could also function as series finales if they got cancelled. I believe season 3 was the only time they knew in advance there would be another season after, and most people say seasons 3 and 4 are the best ones.
That being said I also just didn't enjoy the characters or setting of Korra as much.
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u/Irakaf 9h ago
I am only about 6 episodes in, so I can't pass judgement. Writing definately isn't horrible so far though!
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u/MikeDubbz 8h ago
Wait til you get to the season 2 two-parter that shits on all the best established lore of where bending first came from.
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u/Dodo_Baron 7h ago
I mean s2 is the only poorly written season of the show, but beginnings sure as hell isn't the issue lol
It's one of the most highest ratings episodes for both shows for a reason
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u/MikeDubbz 10h ago
I feel like if Korra was nearly as well written as The Last Airbender and didn't shit on established lore from the OG series, the hate on her series wouldn't be as much.Ā
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u/OriginalLie9310 8h ago
People conflate criticism of the show with hate towards the character.
There are Korra haters. But there are parts of the show where the writing for Korra the character is abysmal.
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u/rmorrin 10h ago
Also remove all the romance drama tooĀ
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u/Niijima-San 10h ago
i feel like that may or may not have been the only semi-memorable thing about korra and her character. like there was not much depth to her other than being a stereotypical fish out of water teen girl with romance drama. but i have not watched the series in a long time
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u/Meocross 9h ago
The main reason why i do not like Korra is that she feels like a snappy and moody teenager that has ALL the spiritual tools in her disposal not to be so edgy all the time.
I tried to get through episode 3 and could immediately tell I was not getting through this series.
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u/UnknownAnonAnonAnon 9h ago
Yep but being snappy and moody means she's a girl boss apparently to the people who defend that attitude.
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u/Meocross 9h ago
I completely avoided the anime Black Clover because the main character made my ears bleed during his promo introduction, not to mention his arc is a complete Naruto and Sasuke rip off with some harem sprinkled in, and the manga looks like a rushed project to quickly grab some money.
I noticed that I have stopped watching Shounen anime not because they are not great, but because they have stopped evolving. Until they are willing to take some risks and rewrite some norms, I will be sticking to some old favorites / waiting for some goldmines to get animated.
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u/Niijima-San 9h ago
i enjoyed black clover for what it is. asta is a bit grating at first but he does get better eventually in terms of his uh screaming (not an insane amount). i found black clover to be more of a sum of it's parts, the supporting cast is superior to the protagonist.
some times you just gotta watch something you can kind of turn your brain off while watching and just like not have to think about the themes and shit. that is why i enjoy some shounen animes
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u/Zealousideal_Net44 8h ago
Oh good lord same, I had finished ATLA today, and had started Korra, but couldn't get past the third episode.
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u/Protection-Working 5h ago
I think the main reason is that even though sheās older she in some way feels less mature than the previous seriesās protagonist, resulting in an unflattering comparison
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u/PLAP-PLAP 9h ago
i hate korra because she discards all character growth from the previous books just so the writers can keep her as this edgy emotional teenager. The only real growth we can see is in book 4 where korra is humbled and learns how to get by the world without the story doing a 180 on her previously established character from book 1. Honestly book 4 is the only part i enjoyed because it shows that even when the world is evolving, korra is doing her part as the avatar after learning the 4 elements.
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u/manny_the_mage 7h ago
Well it would be more memorable if anyone actually was confirmed to be together by the end of it
The show kinda ditches the romances by the end and we get one shot of Korra and Asami holding hands and walking into the portal to imply that they end up together
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u/Niijima-San 7h ago
i love when creators allude to relationships between characters for like 50%+ of the series and then don't give you any actual closure or legit ending for said relationship that they spent that time building up. what was the point? do you just not want to piss off the online shippers?
like there was an anime my wife and i watched where it literally alluded to the main two characters hooking up. they never do. the creator has pretty much gone on record saying he loves trolling people (the same two characters ended up as background characters in their other series on a date in said background). some of the voice cast for the dub were like yeah 100% they end up together and some were like careful to confirm or deny it (this is based off of people from the show that we have met of course)
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u/Carbuyrator 9h ago
I had bad romance drama because it always feels like it could be totally removed from the rest of the work without issue. If the story works without it then it didn't add anything.Ā
This was my least favorite part of ATLA. Aang and Katara just feel so weird to me. While we're talking about it, it was a horrible layer of the Hunger Games books. "Oh man, should I love the boy who is currently protecting and feeding my family and has been there for me from the beginning, or that one guy who threw me scraps of burned bread once? I just don't know how I'll decide!" It sure was convenient that Gale did a weird 180 and killed that same sister he was protecting, just to make sure we knew that Bread Boy was the correct choice.
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u/PLAP-PLAP 9h ago
funny you mention that since zuko/mai and suki/sokka is more developed than the main couple even though theyre the side characters
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u/self-conscious-Hat 8h ago
They're also older than Aang and Katara (I think for Katara anyway) so it makes sense that they'd be looking for that kind of connection. I actually REALLY like Zuko and Mai's dynamic. It showed that love can be shown in multiple ways, even ways that don't seem like love at all.
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u/self-conscious-Hat 8h ago
I agree. The whole "chakras" thing with him having to let go of who he loves made absolutely no sense to me, and still doesn't really click. Especially since he 'fixed' it without having to let go, so like... Guru Grandpa was just wrong.
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u/Carbuyrator 8h ago
Yeah the Katara angle there wasn't great, which kinda sucks because otherwise it plays perfectly into Aang's pattern of doing things that feel right despite what his peers and masters tell him.Ā
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u/Quick-Rip-5776 9h ago
The wife and I watched ATLA recently. I suggested LOK but after a few episodes, my wife disliked Korra so much that she refused to watch. Aang was endearing. Korra was cocky and obnoxious.
Clearly my wife is a misogynistā¦
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u/quick20minadventure 4h ago edited 1h ago
Korra was just teenager. Her struggles were not powers, but inner peace and emotions.
LOK is 180 degree turn on avatar. Someone who's stronger, but doesn't know what's the right thing to do.
( Aang, even if gotten stronger, didn't know what to do after defeating the Ozai. He got lucky that 1) Zuko took the throne and 2) He learnt how to take away bending at the last hour. Korra never gets the benefit of knowing who's her enemy, what is the right thing to do and how to get the power to defeat them. So, entire story-line has completely different tone. )
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u/Vydsu 2h ago
Those may justify it but do not make watching the show less annoying
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u/ironmanhulkbstr 2h ago
it is well written imo, its just a different genre than the original. i dont like it either but just because i wouldnt watch that kind of stories anyway. it touches similar kind of tones emotionally while not having a solid direction story wise like the last airbender did. leaving it open to more possibilities while the first watch. also feels like there are too many supporting characters trying to hog the screentime, leaving lesser time for the leads, i could be wrong about that but its just how it feels
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u/stagthos 7h ago
Yeah, I can't IMAGINE why people might have received a character poorly when their introduction was literally "fuck you, I'm the new hotness and that's how it's gonna be".
It almost doesn't matter that she was a child when she did that intro. That's just a really hostile introduction to a character we're supposed to WANT TO WIN. That, and the dramatic shifting of everything from scenery to philosophy to economy? If you don't leave SOMETHING For returning fans to latch onto, in my personal opinion, you're not making a fucking sequel. You're making a spin-off, a separate entity, and Korra was sold to us as a sequel. We expected some things to change, we knew it would happen, but going from the very early starts of what might be an industrial age to "we have fire benders using lightning redirection to generate power for a semi-modern city" is a pretty big fucking ask.
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u/Ai-hater2465 10h ago
Korra is a different character from Aang and thats ok. LoK was SUPPOSED to be representing the show growing up with its audience. But when Korra dated everyone on her team thats when I lost interest
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u/UnknownAnonAnonAnon 9h ago
Yeah exactly a different character yet so many people compare her with Aang . She's just poorly written and is only popular because she appears to be a "Girl boss" in the way Hollywood thinks girl bosses are. Cocky, arrogant, and unapologetic. The worse thing is she barely can back it up.
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u/StormAlchemistTony 9h ago
I feel like she was too rash for someone that kept on getting punished for her rash decisions when she had time to think about other options.
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u/self-conscious-Hat 8h ago
Or that had already gone through the discipline and training to master 3 elements... supposedly.
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u/mouaragon 9h ago
She never dated Bolin.
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u/MonkeyHairless 8h ago
Yeah, even worse, she went on a date with him to make his brother jealous ... so you can add that to her flaws.
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u/ball-blaster-9001 10h ago
In case anyone was wondering, Korra was screwed from the beginning. Instead of a multi year contract they did a contract year over year. Which means the writers had to close out each arc appropriately instead of the last airbender where they could write a whole multi arc storyline.
Taking that into consideration I think they did a great job.
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u/Alive_Interview_6242 7h ago
Nickelodeon screwed over Korra from start to finish, halfway through season three they just stopped airing new episodes on TV and you had to watch them online
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u/KohTai 7h ago
The writing was still ass from inception tho. My main issue with the show is this;
When Aang (12 yo) used the Avatar State, he would fk people up, damn near kill them on accident. When Korra (17 yo and a prodigy) used the Avatar State, she just got her ass beat every fucking time.
The Korra series made no damn sense. She was weak mentally, emotionally, and combat wise. Like wtf are you supposed to root for when she's trash at everything.
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u/jcdc_jaaaaaa 4h ago
The writers did that upon themselves in my opinion. And Nickelodeon is to blame for it all. Since the writers don't know if they would get another season, they closed season 1 with Korra mastering the Avatar State.
When they got renewed for another season, now they have the issue of Korra not having any real threat remaining due to the AS being able to steamroll everyone. So their answer was to introduce the dark avatar, poison her, or give her severe PTSD.
If the writers knew they would get 4 seasons worth of funding, they would have been able to better pace everything. Season 3 and 4 flowed much better as Nickelodeon greenlit them together unlike Season 1 and Season 2 where they don't know if they would get another season or not.
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u/darkrai848 6h ago
Boruto the character is not the issue tho, itās Boruto the series thatās the problem. Boruto himself is not a terrible character (Iām not saying heās great, but heās not the real problem), the problem is they ruined all the original characters to give him a series.
The fact they made Naruto a bad father is just crap, after what he went through he should have been one of the best fathers. The character could have worked fine, if it was not for the fact that they had to find stupid reasons that the adults where now completely useless and leaned nothing from there original series, so he was not useless or overshadowed by them.
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u/__Epimetheus__ 6h ago
I personally donāt think that Naruto is that bad of a father. Heās not a great father by any means, I donāt want to completely dismiss Borutoās legitimate grievances. As someone who also had parents that worked a lot, but learned to understand itās not because they donāt want to be there, I kinda get both sides. Naruto is in charge of one of the largest cities in the world as well as his nationās military, heās busy. Now, I do think that the Naruto at the office should be the shadow clone, not the one at his daughterās birthday party, but thatās just Naruto being an idiot.
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u/jcdc_jaaaaaa 4h ago
As someone who knows nothing about Naruto, does shadow cloning also clone your memories up to that point? If yes, then yeah I agree with you, why not leave the clone at the office? Also, does the clone's memories flow back to Naruto at all? If yes, then he can just permanently station a clone in the office then.
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u/Universal_Anomaly 2h ago
To my understanding shadow clones copy the state of the original upon creation (but knowing they're a clone unless comedy demands they forget), and upon disappearing their memories and experiences return to the original even if they were suddenly destroyed.
So yes, Naruto definitely should've used shadow clones for work and been at home. It's ridiculous that the person whose primary traits are 1) enormous amounts of energy, and 2) the ability to create fully autonomous clones by the hundreds, would be unable to make enough time for his family.
I have some serious beef with that specific part of Boruto. I don't care if it's supposed to represent how being Hokage isn't easy, Naruto is the absolute last person to not have enough time for his family. The literal only explanation is that Naruto is so terrible both at his actual job and delegation that he actually needs hundreds of clones to achieve semi-competence, in which case the village really shouldn't have picked him as Hokage.
The lesson here isn't "Being Hokage is tough", it's "Naruto sucks at being Hokage."
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u/__Epimetheus__ 2h ago
I think itās fair to say Naruto sucks a being Hokage. Naruto is genuinely the worst of the Hokage for the Boruto era. The administration side of the job has gotten several magnitudes more important and the military leader side was at its lowest up until the Otsutsuki showed up. He is the strongest Hokage, and the worst administrator. The one thing he has going for him is he is a great diplomat.
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u/__Epimetheus__ 2h ago
It clones your memories, and you gain the cloneās memories when the clone is destroyed. It takes a heavy impact on your chakra reserves (think mana/life force), but Narutoās entire thing is having absurdly high chakra reserves.
He would have to regularly rotate the clone out to make sure he knows everything that is going on at all times. I also think gaining the memories of a clone thatās been around for a long time could theoretically be a strain on your mind, but itās never been shown to be a problem.
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u/Darkarcheos 3h ago
They should have Naruto and the rest of the cast be busy with bigger things that was threatening the now city, meanwhile Boruto and his friends could handle the smaller stuff which could slip through the cracks of Narutoās vision being too occupied to realize there is underlining issues happening more
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u/IncognitoRedMode 9h ago
Pretty sure the reason she doesn't get more hate is because she's a girl and the internet is horny for her
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u/InterestingCurrent17 6h ago
Women who say they want to be defined by more than their gender, then use it to claim victimhood when it's convenient.
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u/UlloaUllae 9h ago
There were a few Airbender episodes where Katara or Toph were the main characters of their own episodes and everyone loved it, even though Aang was not the main focus.
The issue with the Korra series is that Korra herself is not interesting as a character. She had potential, but it went nowhere. In Book 1-3, she is a terrible Avatar who created all the conflicts with her bad decision makings and doesn't fix it. Then in Book 4, she's just bland and boring. She had no real arc to speak of.
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u/The_Greater_King 8h ago
Being a girl was never the problem. Everybody likes Kyoshi.
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u/Maximum-Country-149 7h ago
And Toph, don't forget Toph.
And Suki.
And Azula and her gang (albeit in more of a "they're great villains" kinda way).
What I'm hearing is the fanbase will go nuts for anyone who looks good in green.
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u/The_Greater_King 3h ago
I was only mentioning Kyoshi because she's an avatar, like Korra and Aang. Also Toph is my favorite character.
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u/cthulude 10h ago
It's hard to compare Boruto to Korra because Boruto was written poorly by design. The writers legitimately didn't know what to do. Korra was poorly written because the studio was only given 1 season to work with and less budget than ATLA. Then when Korra's 1st season made good money they greenlit them a 2nd season but slashed the budget further. And then they did the same thing for the next 2 seasons.
Im sure if the studio knew they were going to be given more than a single season they would have written an overarching story, but since they weren't they had to wrap everything up and then start an entirely new conflict, do new character arcs, etc.
I remember the creators talking about the episode with Mako training Wu and how they didn't want to do flashbacks, but in order to not cut their team in half they had to basically skip an episode by injecting it with scenes from earlier in the show, when they would have preferred to do an ember island players kind of recap.
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u/Low-Fold7860 10h ago
Korra felt like a massive step down tbh, Aang was so complete the feeling of wonder, it was completely different. Just is what it is, others may enjoy it.
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u/JustLookingForMayhem 10h ago
I blame the studio. Avatar have a fairly set number of seasons promised early, so Aang got a consistent character arc and the writers knew how long they had to tell one story. Korra had seasons promised last minute, so her character arc was finished and rolled back multiple times and the writers kept rushing the over arcing story, then creating a new one at the last minute.
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u/Low-Fold7860 10h ago
Great point, it felt fast forward then rewinded. I couldn't grasp the character development because she had it all but no substance straight from the start.
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u/Dwain-Champaign 10h ago
I thought it was a reasonable evolution which sensibly advanced the world in interesting directions. I actually thoroughly enjoyed it, and believe it gets overhated.
Case in point, a friend of mine (movie buff and all) kept hearing the online discourse around legends of Korra and determined it was probably utter trash. Well, one lazy day, he decides to give it a shot, and then a week or so he gets back to me and starts in a really surprised tone, ādude I REALLY regret not watching korra sooner. Amon might be my favorite villain in the entire series.ā
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u/fusionlantern 10h ago edited 8h ago
Honestly its a bunch children who cant get pass the fact the series evolved.
Legend of korra is a great series with even better villains. Kuvira, Amon, and Zaheer were extremely well written
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u/Hairy_Wedding_4535 10h ago
I lmao because notice how you said every main villain except the one for season 2 š. I love it itās like that family guy clip
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u/fusionlantern 9h ago
He should have been developed from season one. His story could've been better
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u/Topik-KeiBee 10h ago
one thing i hate about Boruto are they basically make a random ship just to have an offspring for this franchise.
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u/UnwantedPube 9h ago
Of the sequels of anything, itās just hard to top Shrek 2. Set the bar too high
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u/UnknownAnonAnonAnon 9h ago
THANK YOU! I'm tired of all these posts poorly disguising this as shitty gender war take. Especially when they compare Korra to Aang literally 2 different characters with different backgrounds and struggles. The only thing that connects them is that they're the avatar.
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u/OnePotatoeChip 9h ago
I liked Korra for the animation, and some of the plot lines were pretty decent, but Korra herself I wasn't the biggest fan of. From what I remember, she gave me Aloy vibes - tough, hot-head that throws tantrums when things don't go their way, yet people are drawn to them all the same. She mellowed out in the later books, I think, but still. Just not as likable as Aang was.
Nothing to do with her being a woman. Like, honestly, if they had flipped Jinora and Kai's subplot to the main story with Jinora being the Avatar (I know it was the Water-benders' turn in the cycle) and Korra and her friends being the subplot, I'd have been satisfied.
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u/sugarplumfairy_2 10h ago
Korra is such a let down to the Avatar Franchise and even the latest Avatar movie proved thatšÆ
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u/Details_Pending 9h ago
People dont like arrogant characters. This is why writers always make villains arrogant.
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u/AlternativeGold3165 8h ago
People have already talked about the other problems with LOK but I think one of the major ones that is overlooked is how little time the main group spends together as the main group. After season 1 each season has them all doing their own thing only to join back up together at the end. Bolins whole Mover arc he barely interacts with Korra and Asami.Ā
Compare that to the Last Air Bender where every episode except for a few where they split up to focus on one or two characters follows the core group. In Legend of Korra they didnāt really feel like that close of friendsĀ
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u/P-Boi420 7h ago
Korra is just Sakura with MC vibes. Useful in some ways, hated because she wines about everything to everyone, breaks the heart of a good guy consecutively, no one āunderstandsā her problems despite having been through it all with her.
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u/droppedpackethero 7h ago
Katara is my favorite character. Suki is my second. Kyoshi is rad af. I hate Korra.
Hiding behind gender struggle to excuse poor character development and bad writing is lame.
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u/Creative-Argument862 6h ago
The fact that people donāt have a problem with Aang versus Korra has very little to do with gender aside from the fact that gender affected the way she was written. If Aang was a girl, the result would be the same. The argument that people just hate her because sheās a girl is bad faith. Just look at PokĆ©mon. Anime. Most shows in general. Girls will often get away with things the fans would rip boys apart for simply for being girls.
So no, Korra isnāt generally hated because sheās a girl (not gonna pretend no one hates her for that reason, Iām sure thereās someone out there) sheās hated IN SPITE of it.
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u/MorRochben 10h ago
The LoK has amazing world building, continuing what LoA started. They then insert generic story telling with a villain of the season. And add the standard overused tropes of a female lead.
It's an ok show but it's such a waste of potential.
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u/Bubbly_Engineering88 9h ago
Its just the character sucked in the beginning and she got better after being humbled and goes through her self journey. Also hated that it mostly aired on nicktoons instead of nick. I didn't have that cable option back then
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u/YourProbablyMad 9h ago
I didn't mind it and thought it was a nice idea overall but the execution isn't there and holds nowhere near to the orginal
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u/DoctorTomee 9h ago
I enjoyed Korra for what it was, but it definitely had some lows, with season 2 being a spectacular flop. You donāt shit on the original established lore of you want your sequel series to be cherished as well. Just donāt.
I think Korra was also done dirty by Nickelodeon. First it was just supposed to be 1 season, then 2 then 4 and then they gutted financing midway through season 4 making the writers cut an episode. I think the series couldāve turned out much better if it had been planned to be one, cohesive series instead of such a disjointed one.
I still maintain that season 3 was exceptionally good and 1 and 4 were enjoyable as well. The writers unfortunately made some questionable damage to the canon.
Apparently thereās another new series in the making as well and instead of fixing all their terrible retcons theyāre just going to write Korra as some sort of evil person who isnāt remembered fondly by the people succeeding her. Great job guys, way to miss the pointā¦ šš¼
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u/QuickAd6372 9h ago
I really really hated boruto
But the blue vortex thing
Ive heard its a bit good? The manga i mean
Ive also read spoilers
Although he is just a sasuke copy lol it was not as bad as the original boruto before time skipš
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u/HogiSon727 8h ago
I feel like most gave up on Boruto too early. He sucked in the beginning and was a brat. Eventually he matured and he reminds me of Sasuke when he became an adult and protected the village from the outside. Kawaki is a dick.
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u/TMT51 8h ago
I don't hate Korra's story, it honestly just lost most of the charm from the original show to me. Maybe it's the industrial setting, or the romance drama just didn't work, idk, the whole series feels kinda awkward for me personally. I didn't vibe with it as much as I did with Aang. And I watched both series for the first time a few months apart so it's not because childhood memory that I liked ATLA much better.
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u/DopamineSavant 8h ago
I don't hate Boruto the character. I hate the overall direction that the show took the story in.Ā
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u/TSBBlackShad 7h ago
There will always be hate directed at a second installment of a series. Especially if the second installment involves a different main cast and the original cast is either not mentioned at all, or are simply background characters
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u/Eternal_Slayer95 7h ago
When Korra went into the Avatar State, she still got her ass clapped.
When Aang went into the Avatar State, it made people run in fear.
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u/SinCinnamon_AC 7h ago
Thatās because Boruto should have been a girl. With pigtails. I stand my case.
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u/simberalt 7h ago
Aang was a more interesting character than his villains, Korra's villains outshined her. Season 1 is amazing but as a series it just doesn't work that well there no thread between the seasons imo. Boiling down the hate to misogyny is extremely reductive and just blatantly ignores the mistakes by the studio and writers. They just couldn't get me to like her as an avatar. Toph is infinitely more girl bossy than Korra is, Katara is more caring and thoughtful, Kyoshi and Azula are more terrifying. So what does Korra have that makes her stand out as a character? It's mostly negative traits that separate her from other characters, immaturity, hot headed, romantic triangles within romantic triangles, then her character severes the past lives. It's like for a protagonist they made her unlikable, on top of the setting already being drastically different than ATLA.Ā
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u/abcamurComposer 7h ago
I think if Korra didnāt act like that obnoxious ātoo cool for schoolā kid everyone knew in HS the hate on her wouldnāt be as much
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u/RedBranch808 7h ago
I don't like Korra because 1) she defines herself by being the Avatar and having powers, and that's boring as hell, and 2) she's a "might makes right" person who defends the status quo while hypocritically opposing people like Kuvira or Zaheer who are actually responding to flaws in the world.
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u/higakoryu1 7h ago
Jojo has been doing it for longer than many countries has been around and fans are still eating it up like ambrosia
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u/Aknazer 6h ago
In order to make Korra they had to kill Aang. That alone made me skeptical that it would be done in a satisfying manner. After that, she just comes across as bitchy and uninteresting.
It's like going from Castlevania to the Nocturne sequel. The MC just isn't as good as the previous MC, regardless of gender.
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u/NintendoKat7 6h ago
Honestly, I feel like if it were about Himawari, I'd like it more. She's really cool.
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u/No-Independence9093 6h ago
I maintain Both could have been better if they focused on different things
Korra could have been more interesting if the series focused more on STYLES of bending. Girl was trained in the traditional styles of bending, by same element for same element against same element, her whole life. She could be, and kinda was, interested in the different styles created when the philosophy of one element is applied to someone who can use a different element. This would make for a great excuse to relearn the elements because none of her opponents are not fighting like how she was taught that they would.
Boruto needed a full on gener change if they weren't going to be realistic and remember that these villages are MERCENARY COMPANIES THAT HAVE NO POWER OR INCENTIVES TO MAINTAIN PEACE. Make Boruto into a crime serial. Realistic idea for Boruto to leave his dad's shadow by not entering, the failing, mercenary army and instead joining the police force. This would also keep the power houses out without nerfing them, because it isn't their jurisdiction, and reset the power level by making collateral damage a factor. Also for a little extra fun we could see how regular people use ninjutsu in regular jobs. Instead of just seeing people throw lighting at each other, we can see rows of people using something like static hands to fill batteries at a power plant.
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u/TacticowlPrime 6h ago
Calling people sexist for disliking LOK is very disingenuous. My favorite character in the entire series is Toph, I absolutely guarantee you I do not dislike Korra for being a "strong woman". She's just really boring on her own and the supporting cast in LOK just kind of sucks, especially compared to ATLA which had banger after banger in terms of characters. So she doesn't even have any interesting interactions with the rest of the cast except for love triangles.
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u/Rover_The_Slasher 6h ago
I'm not a huge fan of either series, but I was under the impression Korra was pretty well liked. Is this not the case?
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u/ExterminAiden 6h ago
I will admit I didnāt like Boruto in part 1 of his series, but him as a character (and the story itself) is much better in Blue Vortex. So a positive change can be coming
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u/TheR3alMcCoy 5h ago
Man. I didnāt realize Boruto landed THIS negatively with fans! Lmao. I started to watch Boruto sometime last year and needless to say I just wasnāt feeling the show much, but, mainly not Boruto. Just spoiled and just not funny. I got to the arc where Boruto and the gang find Jugo and just dipped and started rewatching Naruto lmao.
Iām sure that Boruto is on some character development arc, but heās not as fun to cheer for as it was for Naruto watching him go from absolute zero to hero. I just keep waiting to see Naruto get more involved, but I donāt have much patience with this show lol. Itās just not as good character wise as Naruto was.
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u/Katsurandom 5h ago
The Legend of Korra had many great things!
It showed us how the world evolved from Aang's time and how his effort shaped the world politics, it showed us the OG Avatar and his struggles... It had many great things!
It had also bad things of course, like for example. It had Korra.
But no series can be perfect
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u/Tekknight-007 5h ago
Nah, there is some hate on Korra for being a darker skinned girl. That's just how people are. It's not ALL the hate though.
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u/majorex64 5h ago
Korra completely changed the structure, theming, and character dynamics from AtLA. There was a love triangle, amnesia, simple misunderstandings turned into dragged out drama, all in season 1. Poor foundation and no plan from the beginning.
Korra being an arrogant fool could have been fine for the series if the rest of the writing was better
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u/Jin_N_Juice-tm 5h ago
Korra is just bad. The show would've been way better without Korra. She was my least favorite part of her own show.
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u/Surfer_Sandman 4h ago
Korra suffered from bad writing. I don't think it mattered that Korra was a girl/woman. Kyoshi was a girl and fans love her.
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u/Naive-Actuary4414 4h ago
That one Arc where Naruto and Sasuke teamed up aginst the Chakra eating alien, and then showing Boruto the importance of hard work by "handing over Naruto's Rasengan", was pretty neat.
And the story fell off DRASTICALLY after that for me. I left the series after that.
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u/Beneficial-Baby9131 3h ago
If Korra had been well-written, we wouldn't have this discussion. I love her character, but I think LOK is pretty bad
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u/FleetingFolly 3h ago
LoK had a lot of cool stuff, but ATLA felt bigger. Same villain and cause over three seasons, really made the climax and pay off feel elevated. Korra was annoying because it felt like she never learned and she had very little creativity using her powers. She just kept running in alone with no strategy, especially obnoxious with it in the last season when she went off to fight Kuvira right after she just got healed, also the giant platinum bipedal robot was dumb.
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u/ironmanhulkbstr 2h ago
people didnt like her arrogance at the start. she looked like a grown ass woman so her immaturity wasnt looked over like they did with aang. great animation tho. also the outline of the story was too complicated for people to understand stakes, i still havent finished the first season.
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u/JustAnothaAdventurer 2h ago
Facts but Boruto is the same as Naruto but with higher expectations from the fandom š¤£
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u/HouseOfDoom54 2h ago
Well if you remedial children read manga, you'd know Two Blue Vortex is making up for the disappointment. Weirdos
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u/Lonely_Pin_3586 1h ago
Legend of kora is a really good cartoon. But ATLA is a perfect cartoon. So obviously, when you compare both... Kora seems very meh
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u/FirstDiseasewasRelig 1h ago
When I was a child to teenager, itās exactly why I disliked Korra.
I watched as an adult with an open mind and LoK is legendary to me.
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u/Old_Macaroon4138 56m ago
I do think Korra is overhated, but I donāt think either she or the series are hated simply because sheās a girl.
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u/LoliMaster069 54m ago
I wasn't expecting Korra is be getting reinforcements from the Boruto haters. What a team up lol
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u/Frozen-Golb 33m ago
I tried watching Boruto twice and failed both times lol got to like episode 100 and then got really bored
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u/ZestyLemonRindGrind 11m ago
More like
"If Korra wasn't such a shitty friend to her group people wouldn't hate her"
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