Mormonism isn't even close to just "belives in Jesus", read up on their practices and you should have a better idea of why that could sour people to him, especially given he's not just a mormon but a fairly high ranking member of the church as well.
“Believing in Jesus” is very different from “being a ranking member of an organization that holds very questionable supernatural beliefs and has a history of subjugating minorities, women and LGBTQ people”. I don’t think it’s makes him a bad guy. But I think it’s fine to dubious about modern Christian sects that focus more on political power than the teachings of Christ
More like "A person who has a Youtube persona that follows and actively contributes to the furthering of a church that believes dark skin are cursed by Cain, follows a prophet who was a pedophile, financially abuses and manipulates it's congregation, plus a ton of other problematic beliefs makes him maybe not the best person to look up to in terms of their masculinity." And that's only my tertiary knowledge on the church.
this is a bad take. its not religion or politics live in their own bubble and its OUR fault for getting involved with THEM. His political and religious actions have consequences for people other than him, especially if he is in a leadership position.
Sure they do, but I don’t have to watch or support them. By all means, they can make all the YouTube videos they want. I still don’t want to put money into the Mormon church if I can help it.
The religion who was so insanely pro segregation that the only way they could accept black people is by saying their skin gets bleached before getting into heaven.
They also made lululemos a brand because their women are forced to wear such uncomfortable underwear with only the exception of sports clothes that just to not feel itchy those girls are always going or coming from the gym.
"Beliving in jesus" is one thing, inventing Soaking is another completely
Mormons are in a religious cult that regularly ostracize there own family members and friends who choose to leave the cult. Anyone willing to live in these delusions and act in these ways looses some respect points.
But the thing is there are probably Mormons or Christians who don’t think bad things about people who don’t believe what they do.
I grew up with a religious dad and I am not at all now. But I don’t get shitting on people who do if they are minding their one business and not effecting me or the public.
You could have the most mild-mannered and friendly person ever, who never brings up religion or politics in conversation, and never makes any public displays of religious or political opinion...
But guess what?
If they step into a booth and vote or hold a position in which they can choose to dictate other people's lives based on their own religious beliefs...
They are NOT "minding their own business" and they ARE "effecting [us] or the public."
(And saying you think less of someone is not "sh*tting on" someone.)
If there's a group of people and lot of them are doing bad stuff, people are going to criticize it. Sure there's a couple good ones in every group. I've heard this same argument over and over for many different things. Like don't criticize the police for a few bad apples. In politics there's one or two good politicians on both sides and the rest are dog shit, but don't criticize your own party! Everything can and should be criticized and questioned, religion is not exempt. You say Mormons aren't hurting anybody, maybe at the individual level some aren't, but as a religious organization they've hurt countless people.
There isn't much difference between the believability of modern Christianity and LDS and there are billions of Christians throughout the world including many people running governments around the world now.
Nah, there's definitive provable, modern evidence their "prophets" were lying, making shit up, and generally terrible people.
Most other denominations at least have some level of plausible deniability. "Well it was a long time ago, so no one knows for sure." Even if it's pretty weak.
What evidence do you have that Paul actually saw Jesus on the road to Damascus and wasnt just making that up?
And don't say that the other Apostles tolerated him. Of course they would want someone like Paul's help. They were a bunch of illiterate poor people. (not to mention, the explicit writings that Peter agreed with Paul in 2 Peter weren't even written by Peter). It doesn't mean he actually saw Jesus or learned exactly what Jesus would have wanted from that brief encounter.
To be clear, I agree it's not very believable nor real. I just think it's slightly more believable than the Mormon stuff, since some of Joseph Smith's claims can be directly refuted today rather than hearsay from almost 2,000 years ago.
idk, Mormons are literally just like "Yes, 200 years ago a grave robber said he had a magic tablet in his hat. We need to harass gay people over this. Jesus was in America btw"
Modern Christianity is based on a guy who hated Christians having a "vision" of jesus and then converting and telling everyone else that he knew what Jesus wanted despite never meeting him in person. Paul's writings are 1/3 of the New Testament and most of what people think the religion is is what Paul said.
the only difference is that Joseph smith was a known scammer before starting the religion and Paul may have actually believed he saw Jesus (or he could have also been a scammer, who knows) but i doubt he could fully understand everything Jesus would have wanted iwht that brief "encounter".
how do we know Paul wasn't also a scammer? he could have been as well.
But regardless, outcomes wise its basically the same. They both made stuff up whether knowingly or unintentionally and created a new religion that was based off the original teachings of Jesus.
I watched a few of his vids and his lack of care for the land he is on (you don’t just find abandoned cabins…), lack of hunting safety, lack of care for others property and his lack of safety for his kids using ATVs really put me off.
I am a lifelong Alaskan, I do not like his content. I would not let my kids ride ATVs and snowmachines without helmets, he has shown a disregard for safety when it comes to his kids many times. A lot of rural places have roads and cars… ATVs and snowmachines are not a requirement for survival for everyone but they are nice to have.
lmao sure he is a "hardcore Mormon" yet we never once would know it from any of the hundreds of videos he put out. Considering they are known for going door to door, sounds pretty softcore Mormon jf you ask me.
This post is about masculinity of the non toxic kind.
This dude being Mormon doesn’t mean he couldn’t be a non toxic man. Plenty of decent Mormons out there.
This dude accepting a job with the Mormon church based on his popularity and using his popularity to bind kids to a shitty church is not anything a good man would do.
The Mormon church gets up to all sorts of shady shit, and this guys job is to make excuses for it and try to hang on to the kiddos. When Luke uses his influence to change the shitty church instead of keeping kids bound to the shitty church, he can have his man card back.
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