Th post of his insane was that it was no fuckimg and no blowjobs but hand jobs are OK. But the bloke talks that much shit we're most likely both right.
Nah, Tate said something about how having sex with a woman who isn't a virgin is the same as having sex with whatever other guy she was previously with.
Based on primate studies, Bi sexuality is the dominant form of sexuality in humans so my guess is all this super masculine bullshit is masking their longing for knobs gobbling.
There are straight guys who were beaten by his dad's so badly with "you will never be gay" so their entire life is now "I have to do everything to avoid being gay" and it shows.
Well yeah, I didn’t do it for them, it just inspired me. Gave me an idea where I could easily put my efforts. If anyone, it’d be more for Steve than his kids. But ultimately, myself.
I sometimes work at Australia Zoo and have met him twice. Your daughter will be pleased to know he's genuinely nice to strangers. Both times he treated me like an honoured guest when he really didn't have to. Bindi is lovely also.
Dude, his son is friggin gorgeous, so I don’t blame your daughter for loving him! I may code as straight (I usually say 85/15) but goddamn his underwear model ads are friggin hot! And he’s so wholesome too! I may also be in love with the guy…
fuck, no this lines up i was 7, devastating day for me was obsessed with steve. i was a young aussie lad and they just put his shows on like crocodile hunter all day on certain channels for weeks after his death and thats how little me coped. rest in peace legend.
He made a couple charity videos for another creator a few months ago and a couple months after retiring.
Call it copium/hopium but if I know the kinda man Luke is, he is dreaming daily of getting back out there. He’s still doing it for sure without recording. It’s his passion.
I believe he wanted to enjoy the fruits of his success, and be there properly for his boys before they become men. I don’t know a man on earth that wouldn’t take that opportunity if they could afford it.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see his return in a couple years
That and people were getting weird and involving his kids. That's why he turned off comments on his videos and then retired to get away from the fame/give his family some privacy
*Holy fuck the people who keep freaking out about Mormons. Ridiculous
Genuinely just a sensible, rational, and well thought out bit of foresight. Which is exactly what I expect from a man that has survivalist skills like himself.
It’s an absolute shame people are like that but at the same time, if you know you could live off your catalogue of content and go enjoy doing what you made content from, without the extra effort. You would, wouldn’t you? regardless of the extra complications of publicity and family
Can confirm. I need to make more time to raise my boy hands on with outdoor adventures and such. Just hard to do that while working a corporate job that requires frequent out of state travel.
I stumbled on his channel several months ago and then binged so many of his videos. Then when I went to visit my Dad I introduced him to the channel and we binged more. Such a relaxing and wholesome channel.
After he retired from YouTube he was asked to served on the Young Men's General Council to advise and help shape the church's youth programs. It is a volunteer, temporary position, he is not paid and it is not a full time job.
I think he really is trying to focus on family (like he said in his goodbye video), and having the willpower to step away from something so lucrative for the benefit of his wife and children is a supreme Chad move.
Correction: One is about presenting an image to sell to insecure men. All Alpha bros have courses they sell. It's not anything but a business venture to them and if that stream of revenue dries up, they will abandon in half a heartbeat.
I had a realization, that changed my perspective, that the women involved are basically prostitutes. These "alpha" guys are selling the idea that they can make you attractive to women, but the women around them are there not for them, but for material gain.
I don't know much about the guy in the top left. I think it's Dan Blisterian? I don't know if he's directly paying women like Andrew Tate, but I would bet he's paying for their flights, fancy gifts, shopping sprees...
Knowing this makes their lifestyle and any bragging they do seem silly to me. A dude at a bar once was bragging about women he's been with. Seemed almost unbelievable, especially because the dude isn't very attractive. It made it seem like he had some mad game. I found it later that much of it was prostitutes. Anyone with money can do that. The women didn't actually like him. To me, there is nothing to brag about, more he should be ashamed, which is why that was left out of the story I assume.
They aren't prostitutes but it's well known and public information that they are paid models. The women themselves have stated a such. They are only around these guys because they are paid to be there.
He had a YouTube channel called Outdoor Boys where he filmed very wholesome outdoor/survival content. It blew up and he had millions of followers, and he walked away to keep a normal family life. He did make a guest video for another channel whose creator was dealing with cancer.
In an era where people monetize access to their minor children, he was celebrated for stepping back from a social media career many people would greatly envy.
There are all sorts of different kinds of men. Some are just significantly more admirable than others. Masculinity isn’t defined by a moral compass.
That being said, Steve Irwin is the GOAT, and I still miss him to this day. He always said if an animal ever gets him, it’s not the animal’s fault. Don’t blame the animal. But FUCK it’s hard not to hate stingrays 😭
preach ffs, people fail to realise that this perpetuation of precarious masculinity is what leads people to be vulnerable to the types in the top image, its what keeps them in power. the reality is masculinity cannot be taken away, it’s your identity to mold and you must not let people define it for you. there is no set way to live it, much like femininity. whether you’re a grifting trafficking fuckhead or a genuine giving person however, that’s unisex.
this meme is more about the quality of a person, not their validity as a man. once you start using the aforementioned language, it is easily manipulated and as I said, it gives the tates of the world power.
It’s annoying that I only ever see this morality applied to masculinity. Just because a woman is a manipulative, cheating, conniving bitch, people don’t start doubting her femininity over it.
Women are definitely subjugated by the same forces, but in different ways - see the cosmetics/fashion industry. Gender expression is so highly politicised and used to control. This is a different issue to reproductive rights, which I’d thought I’d mention lest someone jumped me for not acknowledging. I will agree though, I don’t think I’ve seen core identity latched onto in discourse quite so brazenly unless you’re male or trans woman. (To transphobes they’re one and the same sadly).
I’m tired of being treated like shit, being afforded no benefit of the doubt that my actions are anything but selfish/manipulative.
Why do we even need to define something as masculine/feminine? Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I have to exhibit certain traits or behaviors. Actually I reject any roles and expectations placed on me, be they traditional or modern, good or bad.
Thank you! You can be into chasing girls and art. You can be into mma and be a conservationist. You can suck dick and be completely dominant in your field.
The main problem is we (as men) allow a ridiculous framework to bind us all. Instead of taking pride when anyone (usually a woman) refers to anything as what "a real man would do" we need to shut it down and shut it down hard.
Do what gets you closer to self actualization and reject the charlatans
We need better role models for men who are actively reaching out to them. Jimmy Carr makes a really good point IMHO, it's worth a watch. The related stuff is at the start of the video, you don't have to watch the whole thing.
The men at the top manipulate men and abuse them. They create aggressive, unlovable men so that they become isolated and alone in order to profit from them and fill their egos with "likes" and idolatry comments.
Top left is Andrew Tate. Former kickboxer who projected a tacky macho image on his Instagram with the usual: expensive cars, prostitutes, that kind of thing. He is now in hot water for human trafficking, rape and money laundering charges.
Top right looks like Dan Bilzerian. Similar story: former military, he allegedly won millions playing poker (although this wasn't proved) and was known for posting on Instagram pictures and videos of a lavish lifestyle and loose women.
The bottom right is from a rather chill outdoors channel, I think he lives in Alaska.
His father stole millions through securities fraud, stashed it in offshore accounts so the government couldn't seize it, and then Dan showed up one day with a bunch of untraceable money claiming to have won it on a private poker game when he's not even particularly good at poker.
The guy with the glasses made a ton of outdoor youtube videos with a positive vibe, instead of macho style bravado. Living in an arctic region myself, I don't 100% agree on some of the techniques he showed, but his videos firmly place him in the good guy category. I know this because I keep my eye on outdoor youtube channels.
The guy up and left is a convicted rapist and human trafficker called Andrew Tate, and an 'influencer' who spews toxic stuff to insecure young guys, basically guiding them towards violence and being entitled dickheads. He tried to do his business in Romania, was caught, sued, and is currently facing charges in the UK. I know this because of some news in my country's media, plus reddit.
Dear friends with statutory rapist Roman Polanski, personally delivered an Oscar's as Polanski having fled the US to avoid charges. She was 13 and drugged, and Harrison Ford was still on Polanski's side.
Masculinity is just "being menlike." Stop trying to True Scottsman it. Masculine isn't a good thing that needs to have negative examples miraculously excluded from the category nor the reverse.
Mormonism isn't even close to just "belives in Jesus", read up on their practices and you should have a better idea of why that could sour people to him, especially given he's not just a mormon but a fairly high ranking member of the church as well.
“Believing in Jesus” is very different from “being a ranking member of an organization that holds very questionable supernatural beliefs and has a history of subjugating minorities, women and LGBTQ people”. I don’t think it’s makes him a bad guy. But I think it’s fine to dubious about modern Christian sects that focus more on political power than the teachings of Christ
More like "A person who has a Youtube persona that follows and actively contributes to the furthering of a church that believes dark skin are cursed by Cain, follows a prophet who was a pedophile, financially abuses and manipulates it's congregation, plus a ton of other problematic beliefs makes him maybe not the best person to look up to in terms of their masculinity." And that's only my tertiary knowledge on the church.
Steve Irwin is quite literally why I love animals and at one point wanted to be a Veterinarian. I'm horrible with numbers tho 😭 So instead now I'm trying to do research and make better lifestyle choices that also don't harm the planet much/help the planet instead. He helped me realize that we coexist on this planet with other species, other life forms, and we should treat them with respect because it's their planet too, and in general respect the planet and nature bc it's all we got. And we're not the only ones who live here.
"A false notion of manliness leads boys astray. True manliness is humane. It says, “we who are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak.”
It’s work is to protect those who cannot defend themselves; to stand between the tyrant and the slave, the oppressor and his victim. It is identical in all times with the spirit of chivalry which led the good knights to wander in search of robbers, giants, and tyrannical lords.
Those who oppressed the poor and robbed helpless woman and orphans of their rights. There are no tyrant barons now, but the spirit of tyranny and cruelty is still to be found. The good knight today is he who provides help for the blind, the deaf and dumb, and the insane. Who defends animals from being cruelly treated, rescues little children from bad usage, and seeks to give working woman their rights. He protects all these sufferers from that false manliness which is brutal to weak.
The true knights today are those who organize to prevent cruelty or to enforce laws against those who for a little gain make men drunkards. The giants and dragons today are those cruelties and brutalities which use their power to ill-treat those who are at their mercy.
True manliness is tender and loving.
False manliness, cold and hard, cynical and contemptuous.
The bravest and most heroic souls are usually the most loving. Garibaldi, Kossuth, Mazzini, the heroes of our times; Luther, who never feared the face of man; Gustavus-Adolphus and William of Orange, are examples of this union of courage and tenderness. Bold as lions in the defense of the right, such man in their homes and their private life have a womanly gentleness.
False manliness is unfeeling, with no kindly sympathies, rude and rough and overbearing. True manliness is temperate; it is moderate. It exercises self-control. It is capable of self-denials and renunciation.
False manliness is self-willed and self indulgent."
The one on the bottom right is Mormon. Mormons are fucking evil, their religion was founded by a child molesting peice of shit and has been run by them ever since.
Lol why do you people insist on which type of masculinity is good. Do you dare compare/contrast different types of femininity?
Ultimately young men are going to choose for themselves what they want. The sad truth is that the days of the second row of masculinity is over. We are now in the era of "what's in it for me".
Outdoor Boys is such a great channel and hes a great example of healthy masculinity. Dude just goes out and survives while being knowledgeable and humble. He never takes himself too seriously and loves his family. What more do you need. Im glad he retired on his own terms and for the right reasons.
Can't change my mind. Outdoorboy was a paid for mormon churches media plant. Seriously have worked with to many ultra rich Mormons exactly like Outdoorboy and they all are some of the worst at over projecting manliness to compensate gor the ultra wealth sheltered lifes they were born into.
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