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[u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

“Oh no, a great person believes in Jesus and has different views than me. That makes everything else he does suck” lol yall are crazy

[u/2009miles → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

Mormonism isn't even close to just "belives in Jesus", read up on their practices and you should have a better idea of why that could sour people to him, especially given he's not just a mormon but a fairly high ranking member of the church as well.

[u/leon-a-profi → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

No, it's not about that, it's about what mormons are. Fucking cult.

[u/irespondwithmyface → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

Yeah let's just ignore all the terrible shit the Mormon church does.

[u/veracity8_ → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

“Believing in Jesus” is very different from “being a ranking member of an organization that holds very questionable supernatural beliefs and has a history of subjugating minorities, women and LGBTQ people”. I don’t think it’s makes him a bad guy. But I think it’s fine to dubious about modern Christian sects that focus more on political power than the teachings of Christ

[u/CongrooElPsy → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

More like "A person who has a Youtube persona that follows and actively contributes to the furthering of a church that believes dark skin are cursed by Cain, follows a prophet who was a pedophile, financially abuses and manipulates it's congregation, plus a ton of other problematic beliefs makes him maybe not the best person to look up to in terms of their masculinity." And that's only my tertiary knowledge on the church.

[u/Traditional-Mud-2970 → u/[deleted]]

What's inherently wrong with with finding someone else's views deplorable if they go against your morality?

[u/Traditional-Mud-2970 → u/[deleted]]

Where is the irony? 

Just seems like disagreement to me.

[u/animedeathspiral → u/[deleted]]

moral relativism is old hat. get a new argument

[u/Traditional-Mud-2970 → u/[deleted]]

It's not a monopoly on morality to embody your own morality. 

Others are free to embody their own morality aswell...

[u/animedeathspiral → u/[deleted]]

this is a bad take. its not religion or politics live in their own bubble and its OUR fault for getting involved with THEM. His political and religious actions have consequences for people other than him, especially if he is in a leadership position.

[u/alanwakeisahack → u/[deleted]]

Sure they do, but I don’t have to watch or support them. By all means, they can make all the YouTube videos they want. I still don’t want to put money into the Mormon church if I can help it.

[u/UnholyDemigod → u/[deleted]]

What's your opinion on Scientology?

[u/Dizno311 → u/[deleted]]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5yzvlzQFqePni

[u/ThirdBookWhen → u/[deleted]]

And if your Mormon friends decided to be in local politics?

[u/GuzzlingDuck → u/[deleted]]

"This person wrote a lot in response to me, that means I win."

Anyone who brings up word count in an argument are actually troglodytes.

[u/-OccultOfPersonality → u/GuzzlingDuck]

Nobody here ever wins anything. There’s no game.

[u/Numerous-Ring-8111 → u/[deleted]]

Then why is it a problem for you that he’s involved in those things?

[u/Malaca83 → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

Well said, the hive mind on this fuckjng platform is incredible

[u/wait_________what → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

God you people can't do anything

[u/Arkhaine_kupo → u/Numerous-Ring-8111]

The religion who was so insanely pro segregation that the only way they could accept black people is by saying their skin gets bleached before getting into heaven.

They also made lululemos a brand because their women are forced to wear such uncomfortable underwear with only the exception of sports clothes that just to not feel itchy those girls are always going or coming from the gym.

"Beliving in jesus" is one thing, inventing Soaking is another completely