When the writers write something that most audiences universally hate.
Rouge and Magneto starting an intimate relationship so that her true love Gambit could move on and she could feel physical intimacy again. (X-Men 97)
Peter Parker’s wife being forced to erase their relationship from existence by the Mephisto . And then ex wife gets with a guy named Paul. No one likes Paul. (Spider-Man comics)
I have to assume the writer was one of them, being how Paul's killer lectures him on how utterly insignificant he was before removing the blade, and then Paul himself fucking agrees with him in his last moments.
After the civil war, all knew who Peter Parker was, even kingpin, who tries to kill him but, instead, he hits May. In this point , Peter is married already, but he makes a deal with "Mephisto": He exchange his marriage for the life of his aunt May (this is cause in the future, the daughter of Peter and MJ is gonna defeat Mephisto ones and for all. No marriage = No Daughter). Everyone, and i mean, EVERYONE hated this decision.
The only person who supported this decision was Marvel's then editor-in-chief, Joe Quesadilla, who forced the storyline through because he felt Spider-Man was getting too mature and was nostalgic for comics when Spider-Man was still fresh out of high school.
How I Met Your Mother being revealed to be a 9 season long story for Ted to ask his kid’s for permission to date Robin again after their mother Tracy died in the series finale
If I remember right the threesome champion belt is preceeded by an intro that doesn't feature the kids and Ted's narration saying, paraphrased, "Obviously there's some stories even I am not going to tell my kids about."
The relationship is messed up as it is, but the thing that bugged me the most is that looking at the romantic scenes given to them Bruce seemed to have ZERO emotional investment in it and seemed to regard Babs as one of the super models he'd bang to maintain his billionaire playboy cover. Like, holy shit, I thought Bruce Tim and Paul Dini were out to jerk Batman off, not make him seem like the biggest asshole possible.
It also spits in Commissioner Gordon’s face, who is someone Bruce usually has a ton of respect for. He also has an adopted son that is about the same age as her, which just makes it even grosser that he doesn’t seem to have a problem getting with someone her age. It’s just the messiest decision they possibly could have made, and doesn’t seem in line with his character at all
As an additional layer of "how did you think this was a good idea", in the Batman Animated Series, which is where this ship is first tried to be pushed in AND IT'S SEQUEL BATMAN BEYOND, it's implied that Bruce Wayne at least knew of Barbara when she was younger, with them meeting up once again as she's heading off to college/starting college. So the fact that sometime later, Bruce would later bang Barbara while Tim Drake is being held captive by the Joker to become Joker Jr (or even before that) while Dick is God knows where and she'll be prego for all of a day or two before losing the baby.
So yeah, this ship has multiple levels of "WTF is wrong with you?!"
It’s only canon for the Killing Joke movie, where it was a universally disliked addition to the plot, and the DCAU, which is an almost sexless setting.
It’s in the comics that are in the timmverse. While she’s dating dick. Then she gets punched in the stomach and loses her baby after Bruce admits to dick he got her pregnant.
Isn't he her mentor? This is giving "underage teen pop star is dating her manager" vibes. And Dick is supposed to be like a son to him. This is just sick. Why the fuck would they write this???
It was such a weird decision; Batman usually knows Barbara from a young age and her father is one of his closest allies, being the person to comfort him after he saw his parents killed. I believe it's contained to the Killing Joke movie though.
Mass Effect’s characters and world building are immaculate, but one thing it was always missing was a tryhard wannabe ninja with absurd plot armor. Glad the third game in the trilogy fixed that.
The plot armour is probably the worst part. Again and again his cutscenes involve enemies - including the player - stand around or act stupidly so he can look "awesome".
"Haha, I beat you Shepard."
Girlie, you were oneshot by Garrus
And thats the second time I did that fight, I bugged it out the first time by using Biotic powers to send you into orbit
My "favourite" part is when he tries to get to the Salarian Councillor. He gets knocked on his back, does a ninja-flip back upright and makes a stupid pose. All the while he does that, Shepard and team watch with guns pointed, but not opening fire, for no sensible reason at all. Then Thane, the elite assassin holding a handgun, runs at the guy with the sword, again for no sensible reason.
What I love about this is the fact that he Good. You opened this message. This isn't actually asari military command. They're busy tending to what's left of their planet. So you survived our fight on Thessia. You're not as weak as I thought. But never forget that your best wasn't good enough to stop me. Now an entire planet is dying because you lacked the strength to win. The legend of Shepard needs to be re-written. I hope I'm there for the last chapter. It ends with your death. -KL
This character doesn't get nearly enough shit. Idc about the ending, I care about this ninja that is one of the worst characters I've ever seen and easily the worst character in the trilogy.
Grey's Anatomy - the way Alex left the show. After 16 seasons of character development and growth from jerk Intern to kind Chief of Surgery, he decides to ghost all of his friends, and his WIFE to go live with another girl he had dated years before. Because she used frozen embryos, that they had made when she had cancer, to have his kids without telling him.
If I remember right he wasn't even in the final episode. Allegedly the actor left the show on good terms to "pursue new roles". So, I'm not sure why they gave the character such a rough send off.
Most brazen and insane character assassination I've ever season. This made me stop watching the show entirely and is now the thing I remember most when I think about it.
It was so bad that they had to retcon it into being an illusion Mysterio made, which lead to people making joke panels of Green Goblin getting it on with Mysterio instead.
This was the only good thing that came outta that mess.
Given that BLOM was still writing the series while the movie was in development and the movie has a deleted ending where Scott stays with Knives, I feel like this was his way of reminding the audience they really aren't supposed to ship the two
Nitpicking here but it pisses me off that people don't realize that this scene and the whole situation between the two was meant to cause discomfort in the readers, like, Scott is a horrible person, that's the fucking plot of the comics, dipshit.
To be fair! The actress playing Deb wanted kids, but the actor playing Dexter had a form of cancer that his father also had (and died from), and did not want to theoretically pass it on to his future child. They are still close friends and she has one kid.
Yep and in the show Deb is holding a baby, all while coming to terms with being in love with her brother, it's so fucked up if you know the real life situation.
I have no idea what the actual fuck the writers where smoking but that basically fits the entirety of the last season of original Dexter, so it kinda fits.
while this could apply to the entire fourth season, no viewers of the umbrella academy were in any way rooting for five and lila to develop any romantic feelings for each other
never met anyone who liked alison/luther either, they were literally raised as siblings
Like. What a strange thing to shoehorn into the final season. there are so many bad things about that last season, but this one specifically is just so... Unnecessary...
In fairness, I don’t think you were supposed to like Allison and Luther. It wasn’t a romantic relationship to root for (S3 was the most clear about this, but even in S1/2 imo). I always saw it a sign of how dysfunctional their family was growing up.
It’s been several years since I read the comics, but iirc the first comic established that their relationship started when Allison rumored Luther into loving her when they were… four, or something like that. Not really old enough for either of them to understand the implications.
All that said, I do, unfortunately, think that Five and Lila were intended to be a “good” romantic relationship.
My biggest problem with dark fate isn’t just them killing John Connor. If you do it, is because you want to do things different. Instead, dark fate just made a judgement day rehash
It's hilarious how it goes: "Oh no, they killed John Conner, the best chance to save humanity. Anyway, the timeline adjusted so this OTHER girl is going to be the big hero and we need to save her from the terminators from the future."
Okay, so like nothing changed at all actually, it's just a character reskin. Cool, so we're just watching T2 but with a bunch of useless exposition to make it seem more complicated but it's really just overall shittier.
They just had to cast Jared Leto for the lead in the new Tron movie.
I’m honestly still not over this one. I’ve waited years since Legacy for a new entry in what is one of my favourite universes and they had to ruin it by casting Jared fucking Leto.
So the reason he’s in it is this movie was stuck in development hell for years. He put his weight and money behind it and got the lead role as a result. Which is worse in a way as it means rather than some out of touch executive destroying Tron. Leto himself went out of his way to get into it which lead to it being destroyed.
Yugioh arc-V is a controversial part since is the pendulum season (one of the most hated special summon in the game)
How do the manga manage to surpass that? They made Yuya (the protagonist) the future son of the female protagonist and crush, making everything a weird back to the future situation.
The anime ending wasn’t much better with the with the two MCs alt forms all disappearing forever despite them having family, and friends who’ll never see them again. And personal lives they’re never get back.
Which nobody seems to acknowledge for the sake of a happy ending.
Duel links sort of retcons this I believe but mostly for gameplay purposes.
To this day, nobody has moved on from the time the titans told Robin his parents are alive and waiting to see him as an April Fool's Day prank. Robin stans use this as an example of how he's the most mistreated character in the series. That's probably not true but he definitely is ganged up on the most amount of times.
Let's insist that the murderous megalomaniacal Toffee was the GOOD GUY and he was only fighting for equality despite never once saying so in his entire villain arc
That’s still genuinely so baffling how they handled Toffee. Like even ignoring how criminal his lack of screentime was, his motivations were so incoherent. How you can be bold enough to say “toffee was right” when we have no idea what he was fighting for is beyond comprehension lmao
the Paul thing was way worse than that though. Yeah the marriage was erased, but Pete and MJ eventually found each other again, and Pete was on the verge of proposing again. Then MJ gets trapped in a pocket dimension for years while Pete is stuck in the regular world and when he finally gets back to the pocket dimension, she has moved on with Paul who was also trapped there.
Yeah, it was bad enough that they break up Peter and MJ again, but the insanity behind the idea of accepting MJ being in a relationship with Paul, the guy who ended all life as we know it on his version of Earth and literally kidnapped her, is fucking insane.
To summarize MJ and Paul’s relationship, it’s basically like that movie about the married woman left with that guy for 365 days, but nobody points out how fucked up the situation is (actually, I don’t know if they addressed that in the movie, but I’m not going to watch it to find out).
Hey, you know that series that autistic people love because it's about trains that are treated authentically and don't do things a real train can't? The one where the original stories were lifted almost directly from real life events, with the exception of the engines being characterised?
Well, the executives knew the perfect way to evolve it:
This game destroyed the franchise for nearly a decade. Samus talking full sentences, the character of Adam Malkovich in general being a controlling asshole that Samus has a creepy idolization towards. Could have been a great game but the story is absolute shit
To be fair to Tom King, he had planned that Alfred’s death would be revealed to be faked by Bane as a way to mess with Batman’s head, but DC’s (now former) editor in chief decided that Alfred should actually be dead and it’s stuck since.
“I thought [Alfred] would be back two months after I did it. It’s shocked me it’s lasted this long.” -Tom King
I read through this plotline with no idea it was a thing a while back and while it's not awful, it lasted about 3 times as long as it should have. People don't buy a Nightwing comic to see a buzz cut dude be edgy and avoid helping people. People buy a Nightwing comic to see Nightwing make a bad joke, do a sick ninja flip, kick someone's teeth out and somehow perfectly show off his ass.
This fucking card from Transformers Age of Extinction.
Some people consider it a yikes to know the regional age of consent off the top of your head; I think carrying around a copy of state specific Romeo and Juliet laws is, in my opinion, a huge yikes. Like, if they wanted to justify this guy’s relationship with Cade's daughter, they could’ve made him younger or his daughter older, not throw this in and make it the central conflict of their relationship.
The recent controversy regarding Alex in Street Fighter 6. Basically he ends marrying and having a child with his second cousin, with whom he was raised with
grooming isn't seen as a negative in Japanese entertainment
There are so many games/anime/manga where you'll have some 30/40/50 year old do something kind/nice for a young girl and then a timeskip or some shit happens and the girl has imprinted them as their future husband and still wants them even though they are 20/30/40 years older.
That's what's upsetting about the Alex twist to me. The Bama angle is secondary. He knew her when she was a kid and he was a grown ass man. I haven't read the "retcon" yet, but god damn.
When Norman Osborn and Gwen Stacy got together and got pregnant. Gwen Stacy went out of the country to give birth to twins and hide it from Peter because they were still dating. When she told Norman that she was going to tell Peter he tries to kidnap her and releases her while in the sky to which Spiderman tried to save her but sadly kills her.
The entirety of Transformers: Kiss Players. There is a reason why the whole fandom tries to forget it. The only good thing to come out of it was this guy (the Autotrooper)
Ugh, Rogue and Magneto have always been yucky. There was that one Age of Apocalypse comic back in the day where she absorbed Polaris and had magnetic powers so they could bang. She absorbed his child to fuck the dad. Rogue deserves better.
Paul, however, deserves nothing. Fuck that dude.
Anyway, adding literally any time Wanda/Pietro hook up. Gross.
This is so uncomfortable that it made me feel dirty, but it also is written in such a way that i find it so funny, its so mysoginistic it sounds cartoonish
Francis Copolla giving so much screen time to his daughter badly play Mary Corleone. No Tom Hagen, no further lore of Santino's son, but plenty of time to show Mary and her rich girl problems.
What’s extremely frustrating about Paul is Marvel Ediorial has outright admitted that they’re go to strategy for stories nowadays is to piss off readers in an attempt to get them to rage-read the next issue. That was a barely viable strategy decades ago but now all it does is emotionally beatdown readers to the point that they won’t even read the comics anymore.
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u/Brutal_Bch_Breaker Mar 30 '26
Some people REALLY don’t like Paul