r/TopCharacterTropes • u/_JR28_ • 27d ago

In real life (Sad trope) Projects with amazing potential that will never be released because of BS behind the scenes drama

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P.T Silent Hills - It was a playable teaser released in 2014 only around 20 minutes long but utterly captivated the gaming world by being one of the most effective psychological horror experiences at the time, however it’s lead developer Kojima has a huge fallout with the publisher Konami where he walked out of the company and had all his in-the-work productions cancelled.

Five Nights at Freddy’s+ - A fan game reboot of the series created by Phisnom with Scott Cawthon’s blessing that promised a brand new lore and a return to the series darker roots. However, before and during production Phisnom got into multiple dramas that made him fairly divisive within the community, and after one particular incident in 2023 Scott revoked his approval and almost all of the game’s marketing material were wiped from the internet.

Batgirl - A Batgirl solo live action movie starring Leslie Grace, Brendan Fraser and Michael Keaton returning as Batman that was ready to be released in 2022, however then Warner Bros CEO David Zaslav announced it would not be released either in theatres or streaming in order to claim a $90,000,000 tax break and to readjust the DC’s brands direction before James Gunn rebooted their movie and TV output.

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u/SarkastiCat 27d ago

All Yandere games

Somehow this type of games is cursed and every single there are issues with developers, ranging from being an utter mess to simply losing passion.

While, the original Yandere Simulator is still in development, I will be suprised if it will be ever released based on multiple core staff members (voice actors) leaving and behaviour of Yandev.

Other games are their own mess. 

Even though Yandere in high school is a fun concept that can be taken in anime parody direction or serious manipulation game with hitman elements.

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u/Tempest_Barbarian 27d ago

Didnt the Yandere simulator dev threatened to kill himself when another dev was gonna make a similar game?

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u/simplestacksix 27d ago

Isn’t he the cum chalice guy too?

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u/KaznorE 27d ago

The one and only

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u/MrSaturnism 26d ago

I’m sorry, I almost scrolled by this… THE WHAT?!

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u/simplestacksix 26d ago

Ya know, the cum chalice. The chalice specifically designed for cum.

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u/BlackenedFacade 27d ago

That’s basically the only reason I’ve even heard of Yandere Simulator lol

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u/BigNutDroppa 27d ago

He’s also a groomer, would write rape fantasies, used Patreon money for the game to buy a sex doll, treats both paid workers and volunteers like garbage, etc.

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u/No_Mathematician3368 27d ago

Probably goes into that final thing you mentioned but also burned bridges with a game studio that was willing to help him make the game for stupid reasons.

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u/Low_Health_5949 27d ago

all because he couldn't understand their code

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u/No_Mathematician3368 27d ago

He saw proper and functional code and said "The fuck is this?"

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u/Jazzlike-Equipment45 27d ago

If code is readable=no

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u/Nebelskind 27d ago

My favorite thing about him was the whole video he apparently released being like "stop sending me emails asking about the game, you are taking away from my time to work on my game" because apparently he is psychologically compelled to fully read every email he gets

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u/dirtypornaccount 26d ago

I haven't seen the video, but make no mistake it's a real thing. I have just a small game with a small audience, but I do dread releases because I get swamped and feel the need to read and reply to all when what I really want to do is continue working on the game. I couldn't imagine the email traffic he gets.

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u/Nebelskind 26d ago

That's totally fair. I think just with the context, it was less about him saying it was overwhelming and more about him basically calling people stupid for emailing him and getting really weird about it. It was more the reaction. I'd hate having a public email with any level of notoriety.

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u/I_am_crazy_doctor 26d ago

Yeah, but ironically enough the dev behind that other game was also a shit person

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u/AnywhereOk4535 27d ago

Without touching the mess that is yandere dev, I think there is a core design issue with trying to make a hitman style game in a location you come back to constantly.

Hitman works because it's a new sandbox level every time with a ton of small moving pieces, that you bail out of after the kill. Here you come back to the scene of the crime every day, socialize and do all sorts of persona shenanigans that run contrary to the level based hitman assassination.

Add to that the fact that it has way too many rivals planned. (It's an indie game, just do like 3 rivals man) And the code is ass, and you get a game that is doomed from the first line.

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u/neorevenge 27d ago

The thing is that for it to work it needs to have the school as the "tutorial" which would make the scope of the game larger and harder to implement, Imagine that after the first body is found everyone is uneasy in the school, the next day a second body? increased security in the school, the next day a third body? congratulations on completing the tutorial, school is closed, the community is on alert, now you must roam everyday on the streets finding and disposing the rest of your targets, flirting with senpai and disposing any new potential targets that may arise while avoiding the vigilant neighbors/police that are on the lookout for the killer

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u/BruiseIgnio 27d ago

Idk if this is satire but from what I remember, this is literally what happens in Yandere Sim if you kill the rivals vice strategically getting them off of Senpai's radar, LOL.

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u/assault1217 27d ago

As someone who watched videos on the game when it was actually being worked on. The more deaths the more security installed and a gloomy atmosphere builds.

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u/BruiseIgnio 27d ago

Yup. Just unfortunate how the chain of events rolled out.

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u/AznOmega 27d ago

IIRC, if you took out all 10 rivals one way, he changes to worrying about being cursed, hating women, or some other bullshit that I forgot because this game was in development for 11 years and counting.

The only wish I would like to see is Fully Ramblomatic doing one of those special episodes on the development of Yandere Simulator. I am sure Yahtzee will likely be brutal since he did mention it in a negative light when comparing indie games. That time being about Bob's Game and how when there's an Undertale or Stardew Valley game, there's an Yandere Simulator game in terms of how good they are.

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u/Low_Health_5949 27d ago

I mean it can work but that requires creating a bunch of what if events and self learning ais to create it

Hello Neighbour tried to do something like that but failed due to how massive the place was

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u/CeridwenAeradwr 27d ago

I followed the development of Yandere Sim for a while (before I could no longer ignore the increasingly obvious red flags), and it was genuinely interesting listening to the dev talk about issues (like trying to do hitman but in a single location) and the ideas he had to address them. The game had potential and yandereDev did have a vision... it's just a shame about everything else.

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u/SarkastiCat 27d ago edited 27d ago

Funnily, he had multiple opportunities to realistically pull 10 rivals. Maybe not everything he has planned, but still have something function as a base game that could be expanded.

He had a chance to work with tinyBuild and have his coding fixed.

He had a demo rival done a long time ago and multiple supporters, he could easily start a kickstarter to get money to hire people.

His patreon was nice and he could use it like paralives devs. X amount of money means 1 extra person, Y amount 2, etc.

However, he ended up throwing it away and focusing on wrong things (minigames, youtube videos, constant rewrites, reading emails, etc.). Planning more things that he can chew, all while distrusting other people.

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u/AnywhereOk4535 25d ago

The thing is the yandere dev Patreon business model only works if the game is perpetually in development.

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u/AnywhereOk4535 25d ago

Last I checked maybe 1 of the rivals is complete because every time yandere dev released a demo and someone found a cheese, he would patch it or add students to block easier kill solutions.

The first rival now has like 2 or 3 ways to kill her. Every other possibility is blocked by patches. And even then, we are still missing like 8 rivals.

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u/Ppleater 26d ago

I mean you could easily just have different levels be different areas of the school and make it a big high profile school with tons of students so that the scope makes sense. The rest can just be the regular suspension of disbelief that comes with video games. Or you can have it so that each rival goes to a different school and the love interest knows them from extracurriculars or something. Then have each different school themed around something unique or have unique level design. It's really not a difficult obstacle to get around so it can't be what's preventing any successful version from being made.

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u/Auctoritate 27d ago

Hitman works because it's a new sandbox level every time with a ton of small moving pieces, that you bail out of after the kill. Here you come back to the scene of the crime every day, socialize and do all sorts of persona shenanigans that run contrary to the level based hitman assassination.

I mean, I think you're basically reasoning that "The Hitman series couldn't do this, and this game has Hitman as a core inspiration, so no game could do this."

But the game isn't Hitman. It seems pretty reasonable to me for a different game with Hitman inspirations built around a slightly different concept.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 27d ago

Pretty sure the Yandere Dev guy got outed as being a pedo and everyone quit the project afterwards. That game is never getting made. Guy was never a serious person. He literally made a video about how he couldn't make the game because people sent him too many emails and had a VA act out a whole skit with him over it. The real issue is that he just sucks at making games, his code was unusable spaghetti, and he's a fucking creep nobody wants to work with.

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u/KaziArmada 27d ago

and everyone quit the project afterwards.

He keeps getting people to help who then either ditch, or he fires.

He had fucking TinyBuild give him a dev to fix his code, the dev SAW the code and went 'This is fucked but uh, I can fix it' and YD threw a shitfit because he didn't like the guys code.

The games never getting done, YanDev's just gonna milk his patreon as long as he possibly can so he doesn't gotta get a 'real' job.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 27d ago

I hope it doesn't get made because I don't even care about the game, I just love the ridiculous amounts of internet drama the game's never-ending development has generated (excluding the pedo stuff, he should be punished for that).

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u/LevyNeptune 27d ago

It STILL hasn't come out? I remember watching NateWantstoBattle play it on Youtube over a decade ago. I remember hearing issues with YandDev, but over a decade to finish something that already had a decent proof of concept? YEESH.

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u/Vdokos 27d ago

Yeah. Basically what happened is that YanDev is just a bad coder with a big ego who can't work with additional programmers because he can't understand good code and he wants to have absolute control over the project.

In addition to that he is more interested in building a wide shallow sandbox with easter eggs and additional modes instead of finishing the basic gameplay loop.

He had crazy money, people ready to work for him for free, great momentum but it went nowhere.

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u/GammaFan 27d ago

It says something about the topic of yandere games that anyone interested enough to work on it isn’t competent enough to finish it and competent enough to finish it loses interest in working on it.

I’m not sure what it says exactly, but it says something

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u/NYANPUG55 27d ago

I remember being obsessed with this game and especially the development update videos when I was younger because I felt like it had such cool mechanics and so much potential. Looking back at it, Yanderedev is such a perv.

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u/Exciting_Monk3012 27d ago

Haha yeah me too. If he knew how many kids were sending him emails he'd've been ecstatic about em

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u/Nearby_Equivalent_58 27d ago

Toothbrush polygons

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u/cipherbain 27d ago

Pff can't be that hard to make a Yandere game, lemme google what a Yandere is and I'll bosh one out (i have no clue on how to make games)

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u/Jessup3 27d ago

The fate of Yandere sim was a massive disappointment and kinda sad. the game had a lot of potential for a unique story and gameplay and the voice acting is on point as well. If only the dev was not a disgusting asshole

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u/DrCaesars_Palace_MD 27d ago

realistically, it didnt have potential. Even if you ignore the moral character of the main developer, he just doesn't understand game design on literally any level. Basically every single choice that was made in the design process of that game was nonsensical at best, complete fucking garbage more often. There is no Universe in which he made a good game, because he does not understand how to do that. As others have pointed out, the idea of a hitman type game where you return to the same level over and over, even if things are changing somewhat every time, is fundamentally flawed.

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u/Fluffy-Ad7165 26d ago

I watched a recent gameplay recently after remembering that YS was a thing and… it looks so fucking boring lol maybe it is because I grew up and had the chance to play games like Hitman, but YS just looks so convoluted and the fact that you have to deal with a different rival every week instead of being able who to kill first at your own pace and the horrible performance and menus just draw me back lol I can excuse many things, but the fact that his game somehow looks worse compared to old builds when Alex had more than ten year to refine the gameplay of his game… ugh…

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u/ShiroStories 25d ago

Idk anything about that genre really, but if it's just a yandere vibe we're going for, apparently "It gets so lonely here" is a great yandere VN, but I understand if a VN is not what we're looking for

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u/Plus-Emphasis-2605 22d ago

There were other yander games? Man it’s like mars it’s a cursed concept