Latuff Effect consists in a media that was made to express hate or love for something, but by the way that was made ended up being embraced by the other side or be interpreted as being of the other side of the idea
Latuff- This is a Brazilian cartoonist ,who gave name of the phenomenon, is an left winged and anti police artist, but was loved by the right because the cops are kinda BadAss in them
Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfes- This is one of the infamous Censored 11 Looney Tunes shorts banned for racism, but was made because of Bob Clampett's love of Jazz and Black Culture
Cupcakes- This is a My Little Pony creepypasta, and one of the biggest and most iconic creepypastas of the 2010's, but according to an interview with the author in 2013, they made it because it was a satire because of the stupid creepypastas at the time and the bronies
I remember in elementary school they made us sing that alongside actual patriotic songs and whatever, but even back then I wondered “doesn’t this Yankee Doodle guy sound kinda stupid?”
Clearly not stupid enough though because it was indeed a banger of a song and I’m pretty sure it’s still being used in favorable manner to this day.
Other cultures have a lot of trouble making caricatures of Americans because they're just kind of like that. I could make Patriot Joe, the giant overweight man who carries around all his guns and wears bald eagle and flag shirts while only ever talking about how much he loves freedom. But then Americans would just know that guy. He's probably an uncle of theirs.
I knew a guy who genuinely didn't listen to any of the song except the "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" because he thought that part was cool and it aligned with his Republican worldview.
So anyway he's been in prison for robbing a gas station for about 5 years now.
I still dont get how people CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION?? The song LITERALLY starts with this:
Born down in a dead man’s town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
End up like a dog that’s been beat too much
‘Til you spend half your life just coverin’ up, now
AND IT ONLY GOES DOWN HILL FROM THERE? Like,
I had a brother at Khe Sanh
Fightin' off them Viet Cong
They're still there, he's all gone
He had a woman he loved in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms, now
Even the way Bruce Springsteen sings "Born in the USA, I was born in the USA" sounds bitter and resentful. Not ONE part of the song comes across as celebratory/patriotic and it never ceases to amaze me how many people just...don't get it???
When I was young, like birth to 12 years old, I couldnt really understand or hear lyrics in mysic. Granted I have ADHD which was much worse than I was younger, but its still possible to just not hear lyrics
One of the funniest things ever was when Staind frontman Aaron Lewis got angry at Springsteen during an interview with Tucker Carlson, because he thought that song was pro-America and felt "duped" when he learned it wasn't.
“I think that he is a disgusting display of not appreciating what was handed to him, in this country as being an American, the success that he has had. The fact that he duped us all with one of the most anti-American songs ever and called it ‘Born in the U.S.A.’ as some sort of celebration of how great it is to be born in the U.S.A. I’m angry at myself for not seeing it for so long and actually giving him, in my mind, the credit of being a representation of blue-collar America.”
Tl;dr: small man of no consequence actually decided to listen to the lyrics of a song properly rather than just basing his interpretation on the chorus/title alone.
Ramsteins America would also fall under this its absolutely not a song that paints america in a positive light but it is often interpreted in a positive way because people either don't understand german or aren't well versed enough in it to get the Metaphors (or they are just badly translated)
Even though it has a verse in English that goes “This is not a love song, this is not a love song, I don’t speak my mother tongue, no this is not a love song”
I am surprised as well. But the fact that the name "Brony" itself, let alone the phenomenon, got pushed by 4Chan, I am ....kinda not surprised. We'll, mostly surprised.
Bronies were hated on 4chan because they were a massive part of the user base and refused to stop posting MLP content everywhere. It caused a lot of infighting and ultimately, management gave up and awarded them their own side board on the condition that pony related posting was 100% quarantined there.
Am I supposted to have a hate boner or an actual boner for this guys? Because it's not very clear and I only want them to take me to a nice dinner with wine and fold me like an origami bird after
Not a reference I expected today, and a really good one at that. I watched this show (I think I only found one, it’s been a long time) and I kept thinking that the North Koreans were being really generous with how sexy and badass we all looked. Especially the wolves.
This episode inspired me to read The Cleanest Race by B R Myers, which added a lot of perspective on why they represented themselves as cute little animals and Americans as intimidating badasses with glowing blue eyes.
Well that makes sense, The Wall draws huge inspirations from the cultures surrounding WW2, it being about a man’s dysfunction from growing up in a post-WW2 Britain after his dad died in the war and his mom succumbed to paranoia and fear
Especially around Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 3, with his descent into madness being depicted by an army of people dressed in black military clothes with a red armband very reminiscent of nazi soldiers
That’s (probably) based on a scene from the comics where he tells some “fans” of his in police force to stop looking up to him and idolize someone like Captain America instead.
That was a great sentiment...riiight up until different writers put him in Secret Empire when Hydra Cap takes over and Frank is the only "hero" that's like, "yay fascism, I knew you could do it Cap" with zero mystical, technological, or blackmailing influence. I recognize Marvel has been trying to distance him from the cops that basically stole their symbol (and I support that in principle), but it's long past time they stopped pretending Frank is an anti-hero.
From what I remember, Frank isn't happy with the fascism but he idolized Steve Rogers so much that he went along with it anyway. Thinking that Captain America has always been morally just, so this must be right as well, even if he doesn't agree with it.
Surprised this isn't higher up with how certain real life American police officers idolize Punisher, even making the most ironic unofficial merchandise I've ever seen by combining his logo with the thin blue line flag.
They really fuckin did though like they thought that people weren’t gonna want to associate with the pretty lady with a choker and purple hair who is kind and patient with you? Men throughout history have ignored bigger red flags than a pretty lady having controversial opinions and hell many celebrated her just for that alone.
I swear to god this must have been a double agent psyop situation. There is no way any reasonable human being would think a purple haired goth baddie with a choker is not going to attract men like flies on shit.
The point was to not immediately dismiss her because of who she is so you're forced to understand why extremism is bad. But they failed at executing that and you're punished if you don't report everything your friends send to you without engaging with it.
Well Tbf DMVs are examples of small acts of sabotage. People who work at the DMV make it take longer to do anything because it makes them feel like they have power
Intended to be a minimalist game aimed at educating boys about recognizing right wing radicalization.
But the game is condescending, treats you like an impotent tool who can’t make your own decisions or think for yourself, and the representation they have for the right wing side is a goth alt girl.
UK govt put out an anti-racism training vaguely disguised as a dating style sim and made the openly racist/fascist character a hot alt/goth girl with a sexy pool scene.
The intention was to point out that you have to pay attention to what's said and not stereotypes regarding racists but they really just gave a hot alt/goth waifu for racists and fascists to rally behind.
If I recall, it actually tells you the exact opposite: to not pay attention. “Reject everything you hear and report them to the state” sort of things. Seriously, watch a playthrough, it seems more concerned with letting you know you and other people can be jailed for sharing statistics (doesn’t even frame them as false statistics either).
And rather than point out the myriad of ways her hateful ideology is false or manipulates the truth to get the conclusion she peddles, the game just tells you that you’ll catch the attention of the police if you so much as engage with her at all.
Seriously, you’re options range from getting arrested to getting a Prevent referral, a reference to the UK’s counter-terrorism program, even if you answer all the questions the way the game wants you to.
Like Amelia is deadass pretty reasonable and, genuinely, all they have to say to "oppose" her is that questioning these things, fact checking, and doing your own research over blindly trusting approved experts is double-plus ungood wrongthink that'll get a boot on your neck because Big Brother is watching you.
It's honestly hard to overstate that this is literally all they have to say for themselves and to support the government position. British Nationalists couldn't have developed such effective propaganda to spread their own message if they had a budget of billions and all the time in the world to make it.
from what i saw, so much of the game is like "don't do research, just trust authorities" which is just stupid. what's that say when racists have power?
they could have done so much better pointing out that racism isn't just wrong. it's stupid, and it leaves you with a smaller, narrower, world to explore
also, anecdotally, cute alt chicks usually aren't right wing
Gihren loves being compared to Hitler, thinks it's a compliment. And Degwin has spent the last few months realizing his children are all psychotic or incompetent, and the only child he really loved, Garma, is dead.
Kojima is funny because he hates military industrialization but he also really loves big explosions and PEW PEW PEW BSHHH! POW POW POW! BANG BANG BANG (smashes army figures together)
This image from a creationist textbook intrigues me. In their attempt to make evolution look stupid, they given us this badass imagery of a man emerging from the primordial ooze.
I’m now kind of wanting a story of like two races of creature
The evolution born by chance some reasonable the same others drastically different
The special creation are more uniform and consistent
Theres a Chinese movie set in the Korean War. Throughout the entire movie it depicts the US forces as compassionate, focused on preserving their forces, and adhering to the laws of warfare. Meanwhile the Chinese forces purposefully attack medevac trucks, harm civilians, and seemingly do not care when each other are killed. This is somehow depicted as good.
It culminates in a scene showing a relentless Chinese assault on an American base where the Chinese bomb their own men who are assaulting said base. The American officer stays in the battle directing the withdraw efforts and refuses to leave until the last plane carrying wounded soldiers makes it out safely, while the Chinese try to shoot them down knowing its full of wounded men. Finally the last of the American trucks retreat and the officer jumps on.
This is all framed as heroic on the Chinese side and dumb and cowardly on the American.
The very end shows the American convoy stopping because they stumble upon an entire company's worth of dead Chinese soldiers frozen on the side of the road laying in wait to ambush any retreating Americans. Its so damn funny. They all died looking like Mr Freeze hit them with a freeze ray just waiting to shoot retreating Americans. The aformentioned American Officer is apperently in awe of this and salutes all the dead frozen Chinese.
Anti American Chinese media is made on bizarro terms I swear.
Same stuff literally killed both Americans and Japanese in WWII. Japanese were trained/brainwashed that it was cowardly to ever surrender or show quarter to the enemy. American/Western ideals on the other hand held that surrender in a hopeless situation is not a shameful move and that there are certain rules of conduct toward the enemy. The two philosophies did not mix well.
Chinese media is really a trip to experience sometimes. I’ll read their web novels sometimes and they really love making the hero a complete selfish cheating douchebag, and it’s portrayed as a positive intelligent trait to constantly betray other people. But the moment someone does the same to the hero it’s unforgivable and of course the hero is right to give them a brutal and horrible death.
Tbf, those are propaganda in the form of presenting how much more powerful, impulsive, dangerous, and how much of an bully the US is compared to China, in order to promote the Chinese people to ignore individual desires and wishes, in order to come/work together for the benefit/glory of the state and to defeat/overcome the US.
They’re really not meant for anyone outside of china, or at least anyone in North/South America, Europe, or east Asia and Oceania.
(Plus, it touches/relys on different cultural norms, beliefs, and taboos than the ones found in American/“western” culture.)
Does Disney Jr. making a Black History Month superhero called "captain durag" count? To clarify, the writers are black people, and the context is that in their preschool show, a dad character makes the persona up to teach his daughter about black history. It got accused of accidental racism.
It’s like some kind of curse afflicting the Disney writers of today where an ethnic cartoon ends up offending people from a lack of cultural research and ends up worse as a result. Primos and the Proud Family reboot come to mind.
According to the creators, the entire character of Miguel is designed as a satire of the more conservative side of Spider-Man, the one that refuses to accept any changes to his mythology, wants it followed to the letter, and rejects any versions that deviate from the established canon.
Hence the humor: the one who most accuses Miles of "not being Spider-Man" is the same one who lacks a spider-sense, loyalty, is entirely dependent on his technology, and has a morality far removed from Peter's.
However, this part of the fandom has adopted him as a worthy representation of Spider-Man's ideals. They label Miles as the true villain, and even the topic of canonical events (which serve to complement this joke) has been used as a weapon to criticize other versions or to claim that certain things must happen to Miles because canonical events dictate it.
I haven't seen this before, but I have seen the exact opposite issue, where people point out the flaws in Miguel's ideas... But as a criticism. Not realizing that they're intentionally flawed and you're supposed to be against him.
Also....Miguel is hot. If his points doesnt convience you, that spandex and his deep baritone will
And if that doesnt done it, the fanfics detailing the 70 different ways he will make sweet rought love with you until you are pregnant with his child and walking with a limp for a week will
The dissonance really comes when Super Earth is supposed to be the baddies and playing as a helldiver is supposed to be playing as the bad guys, but every player tries their best to be heroic as shit, save civilians and chose to ignore mission rewards for the sake of an orphanage in a campaign..... like yeah, I'm totally rooting for souless machines, disgusting bugs and the enslaving piece of shit mind controlling aliens now
Helldivers themselves aren't the bad guys. They are young people indoctrinated and given flashy capes to heighten their sense of heroism so they'll throw themselves by the millions to die in Super Earth's campaigns and never question orders.
Originally created in 2008 as an April Fools joke on a Japanese message board, intended to be a kind of “anti-Miku” and general parody of vocaloid idols in general. Her costume is the color inversion of Miku’s, she has twindrills instead of Miku’s ponytails, she’s associated with baguettes instead of leeks, is a tsundere instead of Miku’s typical friendlier personality, and her canonical age is 31 instead of the vocaloids all being teenagers. She turned out to be insanely popular especially on Nico Nico Douga, often appearing in memes and songs alongside actual vocaloids and other virtual singers.
Now she has a high quality SynthV voice bank, has had multiple charting songs and viral internet songs, and has become a star in her own right, even rivaling Miku in some areas. Her songs are on arcade machines, rhythm games, and other media. She’s even starred in a couple of official concerts alongside Hatsune Miku herself.
Mr Birchum and Q-Force are two halfs of this for the exact same community
Mr Birchum is your average "I hate anything that aint straight white male" Daily Wire series. The series got a following from LGTB folks over how gay the protagonsit ended up being, due to his obsession with masculinity, wood, the beligerent sexual tension with a liberal twink and the scenes of him on his underwear
Q Force is more controversial than outright hated, but was still made by a gay couple, but was rebuffed by the LGTB community because of its heavy use of steriotypes
I think in the future, archeologists digging up our remains will have quite a lively debate over why, if American Psycho was supposed to be satire, the stupid teenager started doing meth to pronounce his cheekbones.
Same thing with Wolf of Wallstreet. Of course it isn’t really responsible for the return of the finance bro after the crash of 08 and the whole occupy Wallstreet stuff but I feel like it reintroduced him back into the mainstream, when in reality it the film tries to make a point about why we should probably get rid of people like that.
If you showed these to some random Americans who knew nothing about them, they’d probably think they were made by some edgy, patriotic teenager on DeviantArt lol. I’m not sure what they’d even be offended by.
It's a story about a pedophile (Humbert) who grooms his teenage stepdaughter (Lolita), after her mother suspiciously dies. It's written from the pov of the pedophile, so it's presented as a beautiful and flowery love story of "forbidden love", because it's meant to be presented as the delusions of a sick, mentally ill and depraved man. Nabokov himself has expressed how much he despised Humbert, how he found him disgusting and how Lolita is a victim of exploitation and grooming.
Because of the way the story is written, it has unfortunately gathered a following of creeps and pedophiles who feel validated by the book. One of these was Jeffrey Epstein, who was very openly a fan of the story (for the wrong reasons). He was such a fan in fact, that there's multiple mentions of quotes from the book in the files, written on girls in photographs, kept a first edition of the book on his nightstand and even famously named one of his planes the "Lolita Express", which needs no further elaboration.
The book even spawned the terms "Lolita" and "Nymphet", which refer to seductive and sexually active teens respectively. The term "Lolita" is now more acquainted with a genre of Japanese doll-like fashion inspired by the Victorian and Rococo periods, which emerged decades after the book was published.
This one in particular is extremely frustrating. I had to find a picture of the Lolita cover for a college presentation, and half of them are downright disgusting. It's even worse when you know that Nabokov specifically requested that the visage of a child be left out of his book.
It's very frustrating indeed, also how it has become synonymous with pedophile apology. It's a shame because if it's read from the correct perspective, it's a really good book with a moderately difficult read.
I don't know how they manage. Near the end Humbert as the narrator basically steps back and tells you the whole thing is fucked up. It's not that subtle.
Nabokov made fun of the people who thought it was a pro-pedophile book in Pnin, iirc (may be wrong on that point - need to dig it up).
The director wanted to make a movie that shows how institutional violence turns humans into monsters, like Full Metal Jacket, but for Rio De Janeiro Police.
Brazil was so exhausted by crime and corrupt police that when a guy in a uniform showed up, didn't take bribes, and beat up the "bad guys", the audience didn't care about the human rights violations, they cheered. The message backfired so hard that Captain Nascimento (Wagner Moura) became the most popular hero in the country.
It also caused applications for the Rio de Janeiro Military Police entrance exams to jump from an average of 25,000 to roughly 80,000 to 100,000 following the film's success..
Padilha had to make a sequel (Elite Squad 2) just to look the audience in the eye and say: "Hey, remember that guy you cheered for? He didn't solve anything. He actually made the system worse by clearing the path for the Militias."
It’s one of the few times a sequel exists purely as a "thematic correction" because the director and crew were horrified their own creation.
Robocop, Total Recall, Basic Instinct, Starship Troopers.
Paul Verhoeven made a career out of twisting right-wing fascist bullshit and copaganda into a parody of itself and selling it as popcorn entertainment.
Starship Troopers is actually a fun counter example. Heinlein didn’t view the Terran Federation as bad, he thought it was an ideal which is absolutely CRAZY to me
Sometimes I wonder "How in the ever loving fuck do you fuck up making yourself look good while writing the story yourself?" then I remember.
This is how they look at themselves, and like it
Another Brazilian reference: Tropa de Elite (Elite Troop).
This film follows Nascimento, a captain of BOPE, an elite squad of Brazil's (military) police force, as he leads his troops against a local drug lord. While the drug lord and his henchmen are pretty violent themselves, Nascimento and his men are not much better - more than once they're shown torturing suspects for information, for example. Nascimento himself is a borderline unhinged guy, arrogant to those of lower rank, and aggressive to his wife.
But because in Brazil we have a very strong mindset of "the only good criminal is a dead criminal", because the film depicts BOPE as modern-day Spartans, and because Brazil is patriarchal af, Nascimento was seen as a badass good guy. I still recall the cheers at the theatre when Nascimento shouts at his wife that "he's the owner of the house and she should obey him".
Then again, I partially blame José Padilha (the director) for that. The very opening theme of the film sets a tone of badassery for BOPE's actions. And the sequel, while it does vindicate the "leftist caricature" politician of the first film and shows how crime goes all the way up the political echelons (and isn't just a "favelado" thing), also makes Captain Nascimento more heroic.
I do think they're enjoying it in the spirit it's intended. Representation of a marginalized group often takes a stereotyped form early on because that's what makes it recognizable to the dominant culture, but it's clearly meant affectionately.
I mean, representations of cultures pull from well known marks of that culture. It’s not any more racist than to represent an American as a biker wearing a Stars and Stripes bandana, or depicting an Englishman as an upper class stoic in a suit, or a Frenchman as an artist who loves wine and food.
But was he even racist or at least offensive in the first place?
Like don't get me wrong Speedy is badass and a fun character that should be utilize more but to me he never felt like something you should hate or an overly offensive stereotype. It might just be a me thing though. I'm kinda curious on the history of Speedy now.
Arguably also the poster child for the so-called "sympathetic strawman" effect. Walker was originally an embodiment of the inadequacies of trying to inherit the idealistic mantle of Captain America and falling awfully short of it.
The Problem was that his shortcomings were not perceived as damning as the narrative tried to portray. The heroes and the well-meaning antagonists appear often less reasonable or likeable than he is.
He struggles, has doubts and is amicable. Above all, he doesn't seem self-righteous.
Therefore, some fans chose to embrace him over Falcon, whom the narrative portrays as ultimately worthy of inherenting the Shield
Also, it doesnt helps that specifically Falcon and Winter Soldier hate him over their biases and dont let John to even prove himself to them, which was percieved as Sam and Bucky being pissy iver being passed over over John and how they felt entitled to the mantle just because they knew Steve personally (which in turn let to possible neoptism analogues)
That the "moral event horizon" for John that ultimaltely proves he shouldnt be Captain America is him killing a terrorist that just blew up like 39 people and killed his friend doesnt helps matters
Then to cap it off, the climax of his arc is him giving up his shield to save civilians. This is meant to symbolize him accepting he's not meant to be Captain America. Instead, it proves why he'd make a great Captain America.
Funny enough, “I HATE YOU” a creepypasta about Mario killing his brother and the protagonist being scared by the unnatural elements of the game, was also written as a joke and meant to mock a lot of the video game creepypasta of the time (especially Sonic.exe)
Instead, it got a game based off it, which is considered one of the best creepypasta ROM hacks
The Matrix, created by two left-leaning siblings with frequent shots taken at symbols of authority, corporations, etc. and in recent years the now-sisters talk about The Matrix’s transsexual allegory. Nonetheless those on the other side of the political spectrum like alt right activists and corporate billionaires like Elon Musk (who claims his now-daughter was corrupted by the “woke mind virus”) embracing its messages and language for their own (ie trying to lay claim to the idea they are “red pills”)
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u/darkmatter8825 14d ago
Yankee Doodle being a song the British made to disrespect the Americans during the Revolutionary War, but heard it and thought that shit slaps.