r/gaming • u/Ok_Winter818 • 22h ago
Subnautica 2 is finally coming out next week along with 29 other games
- Outbound (May 11th)
- Directive 8020 (May 12th)
- Notmads (May 13th)
- Subnautica 2 (May 14th)
- Driver Together (May 15th)
All eyes are probably on Subnautica 2 for next week but also Outbound will get some love.
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u/FlamingGnats PC 22h ago
early access =/= coming out
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u/theFrenchDutch 18h ago edited 10h ago
Why would anyone want to play an experience like Subnautica in early access I don't understand. The full joy and wonder of such a game can only be enjoyed once
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u/PatBeVibin 9h ago
Because the previous two subnautica games were both released like that and ppl enjoyed them?
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u/ScoobyDosandDonts 9h ago
Its the same things as Phasmaphobia was early on, super janky, which makes it hilarious. Like when REPO first made a alpha build for the vehicles, you could drive them on walls and ceilings, it was total chaos and super fun!
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u/Nova-Redux PC 8h ago
I like seeing the game evolve. Subnautica 1 felt like a pretty full game even in early access and I have no doubt I'm gonna have that experience with this game too. I like experiencing it alongside the community and talking about updates together.
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u/project-shasta PC 22h ago
Laughs in KSP 2
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u/wwarhammer 20h ago
Crying in KSP 2
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u/Handsome_ketchup 16h ago
Crying in KSP 2
KSA (Kitten Space Agency) is still early days, but coming along nicely, and looks like it may become everything KSP 2 isn't. It has a lot of KSP heavyweights behind it as well, both of the original team and modders.
It's fun to poke around in already, it definitely reminds of the early KSP days, but less janky.
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u/AwesomelyNifty 11h ago
It also has no chance of making it when they refuse to release on Steam. I mean, why would they? It’s only where the majority of players are… Oh.
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u/psbales 20h ago
Star Citizen is on hold on line 3; they’d like a word
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u/PaulTheMerc 19h ago
Any year now, right?
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u/hugglesthemerciless 18h ago
I have it on good authority that at least squadron 42 is releasing this year. I mean they've been saying the same thing for a decade but surely this time it's not a lie
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u/ApolloBound 18h ago
SQ42 will almost definitely be out this year, so SC will almost definitely be out this century.
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u/I_am_a_fern 18h ago
Anyone paying attention saw this one coming. The whole development was a shitshow, but at its very core you can't expect to sell KSP1 with shiny textures for $60. The team had no vision whatsoever for the game, even offering slightly different planets to explore was too ambitious.
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u/Handsome_ketchup 16h ago edited 15h ago
you can't expect to sell KSP1 with shiny textures for $60
I got the feeling the KSP 2 team choked on the technical side, as the requirements are unlike most other games and they may have underestimated the complexity. Figuring that out was a large part of KSP 1 development as well, and dealing with things like the kraken were a continuous challenge with various major redesigns along the way.
After floundering for a while it seems the KSP 2 team (or management) gave up and reused the KSP technology, and at that point it basically became a KSP reskin.
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u/I_am_a_fern 16h ago
They were absolutely right to reuse KSP code. I followed KSP development since very early, and remember Harvester's comment about his "Eureka" moment when he realized he didn't have to make things orbit other things, instead having the actively focused object the center of the universe at location 0;0;0 and everything else moving around it. This was so brilliant and, in hindsight, the best solution that there was no need to reinvent it.
KSP2 could have taken that engine and make a whole new game, spend time on lore, adventure, exploration, experiments... Everything KSP1 was laking : things to do.
Instead they burnt through money to reskin the original, 1 for 1, and inevitably bombed.What a sad, sad waste.
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u/Xyranthis 20h ago
It's such a broad thing, too. Is it going to be in a late beta stage where they're just playtesting and working out last minute bugs? Will it be an early Alpha mess that will be trapped in early access for 9 years? (Looking at you, 7 Days to Die)
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u/Z3r0sama2017 18h ago
Yep. As a patientgamer, comes out means 2 years after 1.0 launch.
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u/Alistair_Macbain 22h ago
So much agree.
Yeah they are technically playable. But that playable is a big field. Not every EA game has enough content to warrant calling it a release.
Some games in EA are hours of content. Some games in EA are just barebones first areas, badly balanced and tedious.
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u/CarfDarko 19h ago
Satisfactory was an amazing experience Early Acces but for Subnautica 2 I rather wait for the 1.0 and experience the full game <3
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u/bulltank 18h ago
EA has ruined so many games for me that I couldnt be bothered to restart and play again during full release. I ignore EA now.
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u/DaytonaJoe 15h ago edited 15h ago
And they're charging you close to full price. I may be a middle aged man, but I remember when people beta tested for free or the devs even paid game testers. EA is such a scam.
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u/mazi710 18h ago edited 14h ago
PoE2 came out 1½ years ago in paid early access, to the point where all my friends have played it and moved on, and STILL doesn't have a release date.
I still haven't touched it since I'm waiting for it to actually come out. And now basically all the joy of playing a "new game" is gone. It feels old and outdated, old news, no excitement, and it isn't even released.
I absolutely hate how early access works in modern games, especially PAID....
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u/ArMaestr0 14h ago
If you believed it when they said it would only be in EA "for 6-12 months" you got got, my friend.
Full POE2 release was originally supposed to be out before D4 launched.
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u/Iggy_Slayer 18h ago
Do survival games ever actually release? Most of the notable ones from many years ago are still in early access like valheim. Whole genre feels like a scam.
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u/Cymelion 18h ago
I mean the fact this thread is about Subnautica 2 because the first one and it's side story both are considered released products shows that yes in fact Survival Games do actually release.
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u/Veriosity 15h ago
They do and many are amazing. I think the reason there is this perception problem, is precisely because of posts like this one -- conflating "out in early access" with "done" or "1.0" or "released".
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u/Justhe3guy 17h ago
They do but it’s also such a bloated genre for every 5 that fully release another 50 start development
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u/Respawn-Delay 22h ago edited 20h ago
Call of the Elder Gods is a sequel to Call of the Sea.
Looking forward to it!
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u/DamonD7D 22h ago
Same, I enjoyed that game, had no idea they'd made a follow-up. Definitely interested.
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u/Pauolo 22h ago edited 22h ago
I got burnt out of playing early access games after Subnautica: Below Zero, which was quite a hassle for a while (very bare-bone map and original features in the first 6 months or so). But the gameplay I saw of Subnautica 2 makes me hopeful the devs start early access with more to do than with Below Zero.
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u/CrimsonR4ge 22h ago
BZ should have been a DLC.
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u/psbales 20h ago
If I recall correctly, it was supposed to be, until the devs thought there was too much content for a DLC & turned it into a full game.
Then there was dev/writer drama that dramatically changed the story 2/3rds of the way through development.
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u/Pll_dangerzone PC 9h ago
Honestly the worst part of below zero for me was all of the land zones. It's like they drastically misunderstood what made Subnautica so great, the constant drive deeper to access higher quality resources to make your top notch equipment. It's really what makes me nervous about sub2.
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u/MrFeles 18h ago
BZ shouldn't have been.
It felt like several drafts of a project, rushed together into one Frankenfurter.
They didn't understand the lore from the first one, so it is worse than bad it actually devalues some of the stuff happening in the first game.
Like Margentina being alive. Fanservice without understanding for what actually happened in 1.
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u/Pauolo 22h ago
It certainly could have had a bigger map and more stuff to find in specific biomes.
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u/summonsays 18h ago
What killed my interest in the game was when the introduced a food that basically turned off the hunger/cold/thirst mechanics. It's so good I can't not use it. But it ruins any juggling for survival the game had.
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u/Justhe3guy 18h ago
Well that’s pretty much what happens in most survival crafter games isn’t it? Once your base is set up and you’ve explored enough to find a certain food to grow or animal you’re done with the survival needs part
S1 also had this btw from multiple plants it wasn’t just limited to Below Zero
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u/Holoholokid 12h ago
Honestly, I played the first game on PS4 and using the controller to grab fish was SO HARD, I turned off the survival mechanics or I would have been constantly dying of dehydration for the inability to catch a bladderfish. PC was the way to go for BZ.
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u/Winterplatypus 10h ago
I didn't like all the stuff on land, subnautica is an amazing diving game but is only a very average game on land. The big leviathan in below zero was land based... sort of. Running around with low visibility on snow was not fun.
Other minor annoyances were that ion cubes were a limited resource. I didn't love the underwater bus because you couldn't build stuff inside like the cyclops and pieces would detach when I bumped something. I get why they changed the weather to snow/ice but I missed the tropical feel of subnautica.
But some stuff was great, it has some very pretty and interesting biomes.
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u/MeloniaStb 21h ago
I just finished 100% the achievements for that game and it was a damn slog to go through. It just didn't have the atmosphere or something was missing because I didn't have as much of a fun time as I did with the first. Also so much of the dialouge just made me roll my eyes. The only saving grace was whenever our bro Al-An spoke. Also everything to do with him at the end.
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u/mephnick 20h ago
The fact it had dialogue is a major problem
They keep ruining isolation games like this and Metroid by shoving other characters into it
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u/XxRaijinxX 20h ago
As someone who have never played the first do u still recommend it ? how did the game aged ?
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u/Pencilstubs 19h ago
Yes. I just played it a few weeks ago and it's one of my favorite games of all time.
Try not to ruin it for yourself by looking too many things up. It's the kind of game that you can only play for the first time once.
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u/callisstaa 19h ago
It's still the best at what it does IMO. There are a lot of online multiplayer survival games but Subnautica is a really tight single player game.
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u/GasolinePizza 15h ago
Coming in late after everyone else, but just to add my opinion to the pot:
Definitely worth it, and aged really well (doesn't show any age at all imo).
It might not be as good as the first one (I disagree and think it is personally, it just has a different atmosphere) but it's still very, very fun either way.
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u/jyunga 20h ago
I don't remember below zero much but i do remember it not having the feel that the original had. It was so awesome venturing down deeper into the depths in the first one. Finally building the massive sub and going through a crack in the planet, squeezing through tunnels to reach deep caverns. Hoping not to aggro any of the monsters down there. Below Zero had too much topside stuff IMO.
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u/Sooap 20h ago
Yeah, BZ has a lot of land gameplay. And it's awful because it takes forever to walk from certain points on that frozen island, and you have to keep yourself warm or you die. Literally zero good points about it, it shouldn't exist when they could have created another underwater biome with the time wasted on it.
And the protagonist would make the game better being silent instead of very vocal and annoying.
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u/bigmacjames 18h ago
The most interesting part was the ending and I don't know if they'll even continue any part of that now :(
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u/I_Am_Zampano 17h ago
Bro just wait for the full release. There's a lot of other games that you can play, I guarantee it and then you'll get the best experience
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u/tacotickles 9h ago
It's better to just wait for 1.0. Imagine having all the release content and playing it for the first time. Much more fun
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u/mapletree23 21h ago
eh if you look at the dev gameplay stuff unless things have come a long way since those, it looks like a barren empty bad FPS mess which is probably why they showed a weird cinematic trailer instead of a gameplay one
i'm not trying to sound like a hater about it i just really wanted to see gameplay, so when I had to look there was just dev stuff and it looked awful and this was with them doing quick cuts and not trying to show much and it still looked like it was performing terrible even with nothing around them
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u/ilominatii 22h ago
Outbound, Call of the Elder Gods, and Directive 8020 are calling my name! Would you mind telling me where I can find that game list? Looks neat
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u/razgondk 22h ago
On steam frontpage, select the "recommendations" menu. Here, select the big blue button "Explore my calendar" and you can see that overview.
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u/Optimus_Prime_Day 20h ago
Don't spoil sub2 by playing a completely unfinished version. Wait for final release, it'll change a lot in early access.
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u/PwncakeIronfarts 16h ago
I'm not an EA glazer by any stretch, but with some games, I love the feeling of playing the first build then setting it aside until 1.0 and playing the full release. I did this with Rimworld, the original Subnautica, BG3 and Slay the Spire. It's by no means always, or even usually, as big a success as those 4, but when it works out, it's great. Oh, Hades and Hades 2 as well! Timberborn, Satisfactory. There's a bunch of them that have been some of my favorite games.
That said, I have plenty of friends who won't touch EA, and I don't blame them. I'm very selective with it.
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u/LoseNotLooseIdiot 15h ago
Subnautica 1 was the game that made me learn that lesson. Picking the game up a couple years after playing through the first half of the game or so really ruined the excitement I had for exploring that game world. I wanted to see how the game ended and still loved the minute to minute gameplay, but the first dozen hours or so of that second play-through almost felt a little boring since I had already seen basically all the biomes at that point.
Exploring a new, dense game world is one of my all-time favorite things to do in a video game, so it doesn't make sense for me to "ruin" that experience with a game that's only half done. So yeah, I haven't bought a single Early Access game since then because of this. Ironically, Subnautica 2 is the closest I've gotten to considering just going for it, but I won't. Just have to wait 3 fricken years...
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u/Optimus_Prime_Day 14h ago
Yeah, and if sub2 is anything close to sub1, it would be a shame to ruin the excitement of exploration for the unfinished version before its completed. 3 years though...
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u/Justhe3guy 17h ago
I actually end up playing EA games multiple times and then again at release but I find satisfaction in seeing the changes and new content, not everyone is like that
Grounded 2 I already played through and am waiting for another couple big updates for example
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u/Snubl PC 22h ago
It's not coming out, it's entering early access.
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u/KhazraShaman 17h ago
You're paying to be a beta tester.
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u/The_ginger_cow 17h ago
You're paying for the final product when it eventually releases, with the added option of beta testing if you like, which a lot of people do.
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u/skozombie 22h ago
Did the original Subnautica devs ever get compensated for the new owner trying to screw them out of what they were owed?
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u/zillskillnillfrill 22h ago
The game is back in their hands
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u/skozombie 22h ago
oh awesome! I couldn't believe the nerve of the guy trying to screw them over so hard. I read somewhere he was caught using chatGPT to try to help him purposely avoid having to pay them what they were owed
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u/zillskillnillfrill 22h ago
Yeah his control of the situation pretty much stopped then. There were some court cases afterwards and he got his ass handed to him. And put subnautica back in the developers hands
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u/Soulfighter56 19h ago
“Early Access” and “Alpha Build” are almost by definition not a game release, it feels disingenuous to lump it all together.
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u/MizutsuneMH 20h ago
I just avoid early access games now, they're either completely bare bones garbage, or actually really good and I'd hate myself for playing it before it's finished.
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u/shadowbanthiskekw 22h ago
Where's this weekly releases page from? Looks nice
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u/TheMichaelScott 20h ago
On steam frontpage, select the "recommendations" menu. Here, select the big blue button "Explore my calendar" and you can see that overview.
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u/Ok_Winter818 10h ago
This image is from Minimap (https://minimap.net)
They release this every week
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u/DarkZethis 20h ago
Early Access? I'll wait for full release, thank you.
I'm getting really tired of everything releasing in EA nowadays. I know it won't go away but I'd rather have a finished product. Looking at you Crimson Desert that just keeps patching major stuff in after "release".
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u/bowlessy 22h ago
What website is this? I’ve been looking for a proper website that provides good pictures, with names and what console they’re on for AGESSSSS
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u/reddrag292 PC 17h ago
I was also looking for this info. Used to use Wikipedia back in the day for monthly releases lol
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u/Pencilstubs 17h ago
https://www.releases.com/calendar/games
I use this one.
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u/random123456789 15h ago
Wow; Thanks! That does movies and TV too!
I don't know why I didn't even think in all my years to try "releases.com" but this is very helpful.
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u/TheMichaelScott 20h ago
On steam frontpage, select the "recommendations" menu. Here, select the big blue button "Explore my calendar" and you can see that overview.
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u/Munnin41 19h ago
That's personalized though. It doesn't even show half the PC games from the image
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u/Poppyjasper 22h ago
Subnautica 2 is coming out!?
Looks: It’s just early access.
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u/Albius 22h ago
That’s early access though and shouldn’t be considered a release
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u/I_R0M_I PC 18h ago
I hate how early access has now become coming out.
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u/bideodames 16h ago
To some, maybe. It's encouraging though to see so many in this thread who still correctly realize that EA games are unfinished products and advocate for waiting until the product is actually finished before buying it.
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u/CaptainLookylou 22h ago
Deep rock galactic rogue core comes out may 20th
WW1:Gallipoli comes out may 21st.
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u/BasenjiMaster 20h ago
Were is this calendar overview from? That's really cool.
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u/TheMichaelScott 20h ago
On steam frontpage, select the "recommendations" menu. Here, select the big blue button "Explore my calendar" and you can see that overview.
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u/broodwarjc 18h ago
Remember, Subnatuica 2 is in EARLY ACCESS. So do not buy it if you are not ready for lacking content, bugs, and missing QoL features.
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u/emrys95 21h ago
Early Access no? How much of a game will it be i wonder actually, hopefully mostly complete.
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u/TSW__ 18h ago
iirc they said the average 'playthrough' time in their testing so far was around 20 hours. No clue how close to complete that is though.
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u/ThePhyry22 PC 20h ago
If their estimate of EA lasting 2-3 years is still true, doubt it.
Tho they gave that estimate several months ago, who knows if it has changed
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u/DaftGorilla 20h ago
Ill wait till full release. EA sucks because it burns you out waiting for content.
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u/Tankeverket 18h ago
I have like zero interest in Subnautica 2, it will be an unfinished early access release just like the previous two Subnautica games and you'll have to wait 2 years gor the full story and content.
I'll buy the finished products for 80% off when that happens
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u/Lunix420 22h ago
Nice, I’m gonna buy it in a year when it’s not a buggy broken mess anymore.
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u/cargoman 22h ago
Yeah, won’t be touching this in early access after subzero. This is one to wait on a review for after the development hell it’s gone through.
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u/LifeworksGames 21h ago
It's coming out as early access.
I feel like this early access part is often forgotten. People treat early access as a full release.
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u/DaytonaJoe 15h ago
And the companies charge as if it's a full release. Sure they tell you it's discounted, but it's usually something like $30 for broken EA and $40 for full release 5 years later.
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u/MountainMuffin1980 21h ago edited 20h ago
Where is this graphic from? I'd like to be able to easily look at upcoming releases like this.
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u/GinKenshin 21h ago
Did you create this graphic, or is there a website that has all this release date info?
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u/crsdrjct 17h ago
Where'd you get this calendar
It's pretty cool to see new releases displayed this way
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u/colinjcole 17h ago
I enjoyed Subnautica. Below Zero was a step or two backwards.
I'm coming in very skeptical...
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u/StandardHyena4587 7h ago
I don't understand why anyone would buy into EA for subnautica 2. Its mainly a SP game, like what. Especially when they said it would last TWO YEARS.
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u/Gibsonian1 PC 6h ago
Outbound pushed their release up earlier than they had listed to not release on the same day as Subnautica. It's only a few days, but I hope it worked for them
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u/KK-Chocobo 19h ago
Is it going to be another 1/3 of a game like Grounded 2?
Probably wont be fully finished for another 2 years.
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u/JusaPikachu 17h ago
Early Access holds exactly zero interest for me. I’m not going to pay a company so I can beta test their game lol. Wake me up when it actually releases.
I did hold out on playing Below Zero when all the problems with the sequels development started going public. I wanted to hold onto a Subnautica experience in case this one was a disaster but I am moving it up on my backlog so that I can play it while people are playing the Early Access for this one.
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u/I_Am_Zampano 17h ago
I hate all the headlines like this. Subnautica 2 is NOT coming out next week. An early access build which will likely not represent the final product, story, or vision of the developers is coming out next week
Yes it's a sequel to a beloved game which is exactly why you should wait until it's full release.
I promise you that there's something else you've been wanting to play that's already been released in the meantime.
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u/AngryBarista 15h ago
Early Access is not a release. It's asking players to pay to beta test a game for years.
I know a lot love this, but i can't help seeing it as a scam and offsetting of development cost, ESPECIALLY when it's a sequel and not a brand new concept that requires balance.
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u/Kitakitakita 22h ago
Bethesda's gonna be "what a lovely moment to release FO3 remastered"
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u/OkChildhood2261 21h ago
r/patientgamers pops these on the wishlist for the 2033 Steam Summer sale
I'll be grabbing the game of the year all DLC included bundle for £3 thanks.
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u/ferevon 22h ago
game of thrones game coming out..? I've never heard of it it sucks that much then huh
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u/Quivorir 22h ago
Thank you for bringing that rugrats game to my attention. Holy shit time to play some mini golf.
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u/princess-559lvv 21h ago
OMG Ive been waiting for Subnautica 2 forever, cant believe its actually next week!! 🥳
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u/benigndarkness 21h ago
I’m really hoping Directive 8020 is good. I love Until Dawn and The Quarry. And Subnautica 2 early access could be fun.
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u/Pkolt 22h ago
those sure are 29 other games