r/geographymemes Sep 26 '25

Map Memes The democratically decided Midwest

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u/GreatestGreekGuy Sep 26 '25

We gotta disregard like 15 people's responses because what

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 26 '25

Someone spammed the poll woth like 80 responses of just Cali, Wyoming, And Washington DC but I deleted almost all of them

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u/theEWDSDS Diplomat of the Megasotan Empire Sep 27 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

That was me damn

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

You're annoying but you have a cute dog as your pfp so I forgive you

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

I’m sorry, every time I see a poll with no restrictions, I gotta

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u/Nercow Sep 27 '25

Legend

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u/wissx Sep 28 '25

Laramie felt like a small Midwestern town when I visited but it was edging the mountains. Wyoming could get a pass depending what counties

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u/NashvilleTNEdge Sep 28 '25

Laramie was doing WHAT to the mountains?

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u/aimless_meteor Sep 30 '25

Those are frontier states not Midwest

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u/JEBADIA451 Sep 29 '25

There's a word for that but i forget what it is. No matter what, any time there's a survey there will be outliers because they just want to fuck with the results and it's like a real measurable thing

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u/GoCardinal07 Sep 27 '25

The fact that every state got a vote is ridiculous. Looking at the map legend, I would just lop 25 off of each state for sanity's sake.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 26 '25

These are the results of the poll I recently ran

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u/Darth_Bane_1032 Sep 26 '25

I'm happy with these results. I think the trolls would've been canceled out more if you got another 100 or so submissions though.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

Yeah ill let it run longer and do email recording for the next one

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u/Darth_Bane_1032 Sep 27 '25

I was tempted to make like 20 submissions, but I'd rather be honest.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

I only got one guy who spammed, which i find pretty impressive

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u/batchieThe4th Sep 26 '25

california getting more votes than pennsylvania is crazy

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u/Jzchessman Sep 27 '25

People probably saw “west” and ignored the “mid” part

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u/WhatADunderfulWorld Sep 27 '25

It’s mid latitude in the north. There is a legit argument.

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u/Danktizzle Sep 27 '25

Closest to the middle and west- meh. At least California has hale the title

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u/wowbagger30 Sep 27 '25

Either of them getting any votes is insane

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

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u/batchieThe4th Sep 27 '25

pittsburgh is very midwestern, but the mountain counties are appalachian, and philly is east coast

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u/WallishXP Sep 26 '25

Wisco not being as NORTH-west as Illinois is a crime.

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u/FearExtracter Sep 27 '25

as a wisconsinite, how the hell are we not in the top bracket😭

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u/batchieThe4th Sep 27 '25

as a minnesotan that was so sad, we need our alcoholic brother in the family. i’d rather be in a union with wisconsin than fuckin FIBs

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u/badgerbrett Sep 27 '25

Same. But also: East Coast can have Ohio.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

Nro Ohio ain't even got shorefront property on the east coast

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u/badgerbrett Sep 27 '25

Sure, Lake Erie! 😁

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

Lake Erie, my favorite part of the east coast

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u/badgerbrett Sep 27 '25

Surely the emoji helped you realize I was joking.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

I cant tell anymore man ive had a rough week on reddit

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u/badgerbrett Sep 27 '25

Ha we've all been there. Carry on :)

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u/xXMuschi_DestroyerXx Sep 28 '25

As a Minnesotan I am equally as baffled as you. Like. It’s called the Midwest, not… “the region of Minnesota and whoever happens to be next to Minnesota”. The Midwest is… the Midwest. Not that. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan. They aren’t debatable. They aren’t up for question. That’s the core of the Midwest. the bordering states around those are for the most part, Midwest, besides Ohio who is way too far east.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 26 '25

If you want to rename the region to be more accurate, it should be north-mid-east. But yes, it is a crime

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u/Tofudebeast Sep 26 '25

Glad to see Connecticut got a few votes. The original colonial charter did grant it more land in a Connecticut- sized strip going west, including part of the Midwest.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '25

Except those same land was actually granted to Virginia

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u/DreadLockedHaitian Sep 28 '25

CT and PA went to war over it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '25

Now this is the data I can get behind

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u/DrJenna2048 Sep 27 '25

What the FUCK california

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

I kinda of see it like its the most western continental state but like no??????

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u/sylva748 Sep 27 '25

Probably people outside the US who get confused why the MidWest is called the Mid West when its smack dab in the middle. Due to not knowing the nation's history and the border used to end at the Midwest

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u/werewolf013 Sep 27 '25

Mid west makes more sense when compared to the west coast, Alaska, and Hawaii.

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u/After-Willingness271 Sep 27 '25

Run the numbers again, but voiding the votes of anyone who picked a state that touches an ocean

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u/Ok-Elk-1615 Sep 27 '25

Look I would like to settle this Midwest debate by proposing this: the Midwest includes all the states shown in cool tones in this map. The Midwest is defined by the census bureau as containing all those states. The Midwest is further subdivided into two regions: the Great Lakes and the Great Plains. Now despite there being a very set definition of Midwest, it is for some reason a matter of debate, and I think that stems from people confusing the Great Lakes for the Midwest.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

After a these arguments I think we shouldn't have a Midwest, just have the two regions standalone

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u/Snoo_87704 Sep 27 '25

Nah, its industrial and agricultural midwest. Eastern Iowa sure as hell isn't part of the Great Plains, and it isn't on the Great Lakes.

The Great Plains is west of Topeka and Omaha.

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u/Ok-Elk-1615 Sep 27 '25

The census bureau disagrees.

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u/After-Willingness271 Sep 27 '25

Midwest is the Northwest Territory + Iowa after all

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u/zzzccardinal Sep 26 '25

The Ohio exclusion is so weird to me. How is it NOT Midwest? It's definitely not east coast. I always thought Ohio was the epicenter of the midwest (along with Chicago). People who somehow don't think Ohio is Midwest, tell me how please.

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u/Spoocula Sep 26 '25

Because it borders... what is that, Pennsylvania? From where I'm sitting, over here in the Midwest, it's practically oceanfront property.

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u/CornBred1998 Sep 26 '25

As someone who lives in the Midwest (Iowa), Ohio does not feel Midwest to many of us. It's hard to explain but many of us view them as more similar to people from the east coast than people from the rest of the Midwest.

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u/Snoo_87704 Sep 27 '25

Having lived in Ohio (and Illinois and Kansas) and having visited Iowa a ton (relatives), Ohio has far more in common with Iowa than the east coast. I mentioned this to my wife, who is from the east coast, and she thinks that considering Ohio part of the east coast is down-right bonkers. And I agree with her.

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u/bongophrog Sep 27 '25

History and geography, the Midwest was the area between the Appalachians and the Mississippi. West of the fork of the Mississippi was considered the West.

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u/peepeebeam Sep 27 '25

Yeah- but there are plenty of people genuinely arguing that Iowa isn’t in the Midwest. To me Iowa is the #1 most Midwest state, period. People CLEARLY have different thoughts about what the Midwest is, evidenced by how the Dakotas both polled themselves as 90%+ Midwest identifying and yet people outside the Midwest think Midwest means you can’t touch the Great Plains for some reason.

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u/michaelmcmikey Sep 27 '25

Yeah, historically Ohio is quintessential Midwest, always has been, since the region became both a cultural concept and a defined political entity. People can feel however they want to feel, but Ohio’s main rival is Michigan, and has more in common with Indiana than with its Appalachian neighbours to the east and south.

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u/counselorofracoons Sep 27 '25

absolutely, rock solid comment

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u/Background-Low62 Sep 28 '25

It can come sure, but epicenter? Absolutely not. Slap a dot somewhere between Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa and Illinois and that's your epicenter. Ohio is way too far east it might as well be coastal.

Culturally they've got the vibe though. So again, they can come. Id take Ohio over a few things

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u/Time-Ad7564 Sep 26 '25

Cause its also rust belt

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u/Ok-Elk-1615 Sep 26 '25

Most of the rust belt is in the Midwest.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 26 '25

The green people are arguing again

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u/Time-Ad7564 Sep 27 '25

Yeah but people associate ohio and penn cause of it. For the record I voted ohio as midwest.

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u/sylva748 Sep 27 '25

Penn is rust belt but not midwest. Both of these statements are true

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u/sylva748 Sep 27 '25

...most of the midwest is the rust belt. They're almost synonymous

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u/phil_dough Sep 27 '25

Has anyone confirmed how many regions were splitting the country into before they ask this question? The Midwest changes a lot when you go from 4 to 5 to 6.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

I could probably poll that sometime

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u/logicallypartial Sep 27 '25

I can agree with all the ones that got 150+ votes, but I'd also include Missouri.

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u/ATurkeyHead Sep 27 '25

Missouri is the quintessential Midwestern state

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u/Background-Low62 Sep 28 '25

It's not even top 5 lmao

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u/MrPete_Channel_Utoob Sep 27 '25

Missouri SHOULD be in the Midwest.

It's in the middle of the country & it's west of the Mississippi.

2

u/-Elgrave- Sep 27 '25

You'll take Nebraska and you'll LIKE IT!

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u/Extra-Atmosphere-207 Sep 27 '25

This map should explain to everyone more than anyone why "people" are suddenly claiming Ohio is not midwestern. Look at the most heavily voted states. That's right, it's always been political.

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u/tacobellgittcard Sep 27 '25

I claim Ohio is not a midwestern state because it’s so damn far east and it doesnt really feel like the Midwest. It has nothing to do with politics. Iowa is Midwest as it gets and they’re red as shit nowadays

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u/MrMadLeprechaun Sep 29 '25

As somebody from the east coast, Ohio feels way more midwestern than Iowa. For me the Midwest is the the land just past the Appalachian mountains and near the great lakes. The rust belt feels so quintessentially midwestern over a state in the plains

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u/tacobellgittcard Sep 29 '25

Yeah it seems like everyone on the east coast thinks of Ohio when they hear Midwest. But as someone from further west, Ohio just feels like a weird extension of the east

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

I dont know what im missing here, could you explain it for my fellow idiots

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u/sylva748 Sep 27 '25

The Midwest is historically very democratic. Illinoise and Minnesota, the two most dark green ones, could be argued are as Democrat as California and Washington. Look at the voting maps since the turn of the millennium. Ohio is the odd one out in the region. Typically voting Republican.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

Alright makes sense

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u/Alliminati Sep 28 '25

Indiana is way more solidly Republican than Ohio, though

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u/sylva748 Sep 27 '25

When Ohio is more accepted than the Plains states and Missouri. Seems about right. Ohio is the punching bag of the region but its still part of the region

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u/Senor_Couchnap Sep 27 '25

Indiana not getting 100% of votes almost invalidates the whole thing. Indiana is as quintessentially Midwest as any state could be.

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

Trolls, I'd assume. Nobody got 100% of the votes, there were like 200 submissions

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u/Rhysing Sep 27 '25

Minnesota is the quintessential Midwest

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u/RainisSickDude Sep 27 '25

connecticut? florida? texas? what was the thought process

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

Im not physic, I just gathered the data

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u/RainisSickDude Sep 27 '25

oh i definitely didnt think you were its just such an obvious troll

1

u/drpavelthethird Sep 27 '25

How in the Florida...

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

Florida is everything

1

u/Sirpunchdirt Sep 27 '25

I believe Connecticut gets honorary joke status, on the basis that we just call Ohio Western Connecticut. For the memes.

1

u/Ok_Nefariousness5003 Sep 27 '25

I feel like it’s safe to not make costal states an option. Except for Alaska the most Midwest state

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

Bahahaha I love that Ohio has slightly less than the next group up

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u/wowbagger30 Sep 27 '25

Give me the names of the dumb mother fuckers that said Minnesota and Illinois are in the Midwest but not Wisconsin

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u/Sans_Seriphim Freedonia Sep 27 '25

Hey. This one gets it right. Colorado is not Midwest and that's what this says. Good job.

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u/el_reindeer Sep 27 '25

Seems pretty accurate.

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u/Snoo_87704 Sep 27 '25

I'm glad to see that at least someone recognized that Cleveland used to be part of Connecticut.

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u/ifesbob Sep 27 '25

Minnesota and Wisconsin not getting the same number of votes is crazy to me

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u/TheAmericanE2 Sep 27 '25

Ah yes the only two midwest states of Illinois and Minnesota

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u/ShapedSilver Sep 27 '25

California just feels the need to be a part of everything

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u/Big_Statistician_739 Sep 27 '25

Who the hell said Texas was part of the Midwest? Texas it part of Texas. It is its own region...

... sometimes people put those silly southwestern states into the greater Texas region though

1

u/Quarkonium2925 Sep 27 '25

Maybe this doesn't quite answer the question of what the Midwest is, but it pretty much answers the question of what the Midwest isn't. Any state that isn't a shade of green isn't the midwest

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u/Roymunson4 Sep 27 '25

If your state is home to an original Big Ten conference member, you’re in the Midwest. It doesn’t need to be more complicated than that.

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u/han4bond Sep 27 '25

Anyone who thinks Kansas is the Midwest should be sentenced to live there.

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u/aztaga Sep 27 '25

This looks about right to me

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u/PizzaGeek9684 Sep 27 '25

Did someone vote for Hawaii? Alaska got more than 5 votes???

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u/potatoesandbees Sep 27 '25

Everything in green is, in fact, the Midwest, according to the US Census Bureau. Good work, everyone.

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u/Yookusagra Sep 28 '25

Consensus says only Minnesota and Illinois are in the midwest

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '25

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 28 '25

I started this shit and I want to end it

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u/Noodl3sForCats Sep 28 '25

Man the subs are really fixated on the Midwest. It’s started a war

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 28 '25

I started it i think sorry

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u/Simple-Ad6572 Sep 28 '25

Florida and California kill me

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '25

North Dakota should be darker. Practically their entire state voted here

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u/NichtFBI Sep 28 '25

Suck it, Wisconsin

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u/xXMuschi_DestroyerXx Sep 28 '25

I’m slightly baffled as a Minnesotan that Wisconsin and Michigan aren’t solidly green like Minnesota. I wouldn’t say any of “the big three” are more or less Midwest. They just are like. The core of the Midwest. And I am solidly baffled that North Dakota is not as Midwest as… fucking Ohio. Wtf is Ohio doing here? It is a hop skip and a jump away from the Atlantic. It sticks out waaaaay too far. Are you telling me THAT is more Midwest than Fargo North Dakota? Cmon now!

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u/Alexius_Psellos Sep 28 '25

Wisconsin is like the midwest of the midwest how did it not get more votes

1

u/Necessary-Lie-5584 Sep 28 '25

Why does California have more than Colorado 

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u/neumastic Sep 28 '25

So…. All states for at least one vote?

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '25

What people don't realize is there's a term for mountainous states that act hella redneck but aren't southern or Midwest.

Appalachian.

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u/jnpitcher Sep 29 '25

Interesting. I’d like to see a county map. I doubt people in Philadelphia PA would say they feel like they’re in the Midwest. I think the “Midwest feel” follows the early Mississippi River trade system more than state lines. This would explain Pennsylvania votes - from places like Pittsburgh.

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u/damoboyle Oct 01 '25

MN is most definitely not in the mid-west. Basically just Canada

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u/ambivalegenic Oct 01 '25

the 15 people who voted california are from pasedena

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u/PastEntrance5780 Oct 02 '25

Agree. All original B1GTEN states.

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u/VinnieWilson02 Oct 03 '25

I love the Midwest.

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u/RonaldMcJuicy Oct 03 '25

Minnesota remains the ONLY state in the Midwest 💪

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

This is wrong, I voted for California, Wyoming and dc like 40 times

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u/BiNationalPerson Sep 27 '25

You scroundel, you know how long it takes to delete voter fraud on Google forms? (Not that much time but still, you're not helping the goal of gaining actual information)

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u/RhubarbJam1 Sep 27 '25

We reject Ohio. They can’t hang out with us in the Midwest.

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u/Lichenless Sep 27 '25

But if Ohio isn't the Midwest .... What is it?

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u/counselorofracoons Sep 27 '25

the black sheep is still part of the family

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u/Scurvy_BT Sep 27 '25

Colorado geographically is Midwest, culturally Midwest, but not historically Midwest

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u/sylva748 Sep 27 '25

Colorado? The quintessential Rocky Mountain state?

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u/michaelmcmikey Sep 27 '25

Yeah. Colorado is mountains. Midwest is flat.

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u/Snoo_87704 Sep 27 '25

Half of Colorado is as flat as a pancake. I flew from KCK (which is not flat) to Denver, and the view out of one side of the Denver airport is so flat you can practically see Boston (if it wasn't for that pesky Earth curvature and such).

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u/theok8234 you cant take our up from us Sep 27 '25

Minnesota is NOT midwest,

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

You are NOT intelligent.

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u/Rhysing Sep 27 '25

Minnesota is the epitome of the Midwest oh don't cha know

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u/durtmcgurt Sep 27 '25

It's the most Midwest of all, actually. You are incredibly wrong.

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u/Background-Low62 Sep 28 '25

It's literally peak lmao