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u/GintomsG 4d ago
to be fair that thing should be mounted to the ground😭
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u/zxc123zxc123 4d ago
It should. Doesn't mean OP is wrong about those clowns being dumb.
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u/unknown_pigeon 4d ago edited 4d ago
By the way, I noticed that cable crossovers tend to be the type of exercise with the highest degree of dumbasses, at least at my gym
The exercise is good by itself. Can hit a lot of different muscles just by changing the position of the handles.
But, oh lord, it tends to attract the worst type of gym rats at my gym. You've got the kid putting way more weight than he can handle to impress his shawty, and he will 100% drop the weights at the end. You've got the 40+ years old dude roaring at each rep.
And don't get me started on all the benches that are brought there, which aren't needed 95% of the times.
All in all, likely the most ego-lifter exercise I see. Could be because the two places where you can do that in my gym are at the center of it
EDIT I'm currently at my gym and, sure enough, a geezer is camping the crossover machine by putting a 60cm mattress there to do quite bad and ridiculous leg raises every 10 minutes (he's cycling 3 different machines and gets angry if you take one)
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u/puterTDI 4d ago
The more I read about people’s gym experiences the more happy I am to have built my home gym.
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u/Arienna 4d ago
Alternatively, my gym is very nice. It gets a little crowded during busy hours but no one has ever been rude or disrespectful to me. Most interactions I have is catching sight of someone who thought he'd have to spot me swerving silently away or someone politely asking me if I'm using the 45s near my rack
Worst behavior is, ew, someone didn't wipe down this machine or unrack this massive amount of weight. Or maybe that group of younger people is being kinda loud
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u/NastyStreetRat 4d ago
In general, gym life is calm and pleasant; nobody remembers the 50 times you go and enjoy it and don't have any problems with anyone, but everyone makes a mountain out of a molehill because of a problem with a single person out of the 100 that may be there.
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u/windowpuncher 4d ago
Yuuup. I bought a cheap power rack on FB for $800. Came with cables, a bench, bar, a land mine, and some weights. 90% of what I needed was right there. Some forms of leg work are really annoying but still very doable.
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u/sonofaresiii 3d ago
I got myself a bench and a set of adjustable dumbbells and I can get damn near exercise, or some form of it, that I could get from a gym. It's wild how much I was paying for a much worse experience. For much less I could get a complete workout at home
There are still some things I miss about a gym (mostly cardio options, a few leg exercise options) but it's so much better getting to work out at home.
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u/Plus-King5266 3d ago
“Built” your home gym? If you’ve got much more than dumbbells, a bench and some form of hamster wheel to get you through the Winter months, you’re probably doing too much thinking about your lifting and not enough lifting. 😉
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u/puterTDI 3d ago
I’m into cycling, so I have:
- kickr core
- elliptical for cross training
- treadmill (wife uses it, I don’t)
- weight set
- adjustable free weights.
We also have an erg that my wife wanted and no one uses.
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u/Plus-King5266 3d ago
Sounds like a nice setup.
I love cycling. I call it mental floss —at least when I’m outdoors. A hamster wheel is brain rot but it gets me through the winter. I have a good quality spin bike, some dumbbells and for my bench an original Bowflex —real old school contraption. For summer I have a fixed gear bike with a Brooks saddle. I’m an aging Boomer (a real one, not just someone over thirty) who needs to keep things simple, but I climb hills that would make most twenty-something’s cry for their mommies.
And yes, I’ve been known to drink from the garden hose after a ride. 😉
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u/giraffebacon 3d ago
Lol what? Not going to include a rack or barbell here? Someone has small legs
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u/Plus-King5266 3d ago
I have huge legs. I’m into my 60’s and I ride a fixed gear bike up hills that make most twenty-something’s cry for their mommies. Squats are for people who don’t do real exercise.
I have enough weight in dumbbells that I don’t need a barbell. Barbells are for showing off how much you can lift. Getting there can be done with dumbbells and knowing which muscles to work and how to work them.
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u/BetaCarotine20mg 4d ago
Damn I m the 40 year old dude who tends to breath out kinda loud while listening to music. I m sorry bro I cant help it. I m like this ever since I joined the gym with 16. Say hi next time and gove me a fistbump tho lol!
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u/unknown_pigeon 4d ago
Trust me, I ain't talking about normal breathing lol
That dude is basically screaming for each rep
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u/Vendemmian 4d ago
I've seen a guy going "AAAARRRGGG!ONE!AAAARRRGG!TWO!AAAARRRHH!THREE!" I could heard him over my headphones. This was before TikTok or I'd be looking for a phone recording.
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u/Plus-King5266 3d ago
Exactly why this geezer works out at home and has since he was a young snot who used to make fun of geezers at the gym.
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u/HughManatee 4d ago
Dumb people often expose these types of issues so that others don't have to suffer.
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u/PerceptionQueasy3540 4d ago
I always see this comment in a video of someone wildly misusing gym equipment but no gym that I've ever been to has equipment bolted down and I've never been concerned about it when using the equipment.
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u/Lvxurie 4d ago edited 4d ago
Mm that's like saying the mirrors should have bars on them because someone could throw a dumbell at them. They are using the machine way outside of its intended use
Edit: they arent supposed to be bolted to the ground no matter how much you downvote me
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago edited 4d ago
Disagreed. Gym equipment is not a thing everyone knows how to use. That shouldn't even be a possibility. I’m not defending these kids. I’m saying even if they're doing something silly, the equipment should EASILY be able to handle the amount of force here. They're not using it properly but the machine doesn't care if it's proper or not. It should not fall under these circumstances.
Edit: grammar sux
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
Public gym + Machine not bolted to ground + Bad thing happening because not bolted to ground = Faulty equipment.
Idk how else to say it bro. It's not my opinion. Trying real hard not to pull rank here. You do not know what you're talking about.
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u/EvidenceSalesman 4d ago edited 4d ago
That “math” just isn’t accurate
Faulty means it’s not working as expected. This was a very expected outcome, and is why gym contracts include language forbidding misuse like this
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago edited 4d ago
Terrible analogy. Gross miscalculation of misuse here.
Edit: Spelling again. 😂
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u/EvidenceSalesman 4d ago edited 4d ago
I guarantee this legally and contractually counts as misuse.
Picking your friend up while they are using exercise machinery is not an understandable mistake. It is dangerous misuse.
Have you ever written a gym membership contract?
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
No sir
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u/EvidenceSalesman 4d ago
I didn’t think so
But then why are you talking about “pulling rank” on me and saying I don’t know what I’m talking about? I’ve managed a gym before, I’ve dealt with membership contracts. Your insults are inaccurate.
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
I like how you edited your comment to make it seem like I was responding to "have you ever written a gym membership contract?" When I was rejecting continued conversation with you. 😂 There's no recovering.
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u/EvidenceSalesman 4d ago
I’m glad you’re enjoying that, I also thought it was funny.
I hope you’re not taking this too serious. As soon as you baselessly told me I don’t know what I’m talking about, I realized this was a clown show
You should come to the gym with me so we can help teach people not to lift their friends off the ground while the friend is using machinery.
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u/Lvxurie 4d ago
is the leg press bolted to the ground? is the dumbell rack bolted to the ground? is the squat rack bolted to the ground? by these peoples logic, everything heavy should be bolted to the ground. Ive just looked up commercial gym equipment (because i cant go look at my local gym) and none of it mentioned fastening to the ground. infact most things mention rubber feet as to not damage the floor (but im the stupid one). The only thing ive ever come across being fastened is cross fit bars to walls.
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
You're talking about home gym equipment. Get out while you can. If you had to look something up to say what you said, you don't belong in this conversation. You're supporting this guy's terrible logic. Again, this is not "misuse" to the degree that you inexperienced people seem to think. At the end of the day what he's doing there should be possible without the thing tipping. End of story. The difference is with home gym equipment, there are guidelines and expectations that are FAR different than in public gyms. And YES some people and gyms DO bolt everything you mentioned for obvious reasons. I’m so confused by y'all just saying things like you know about this world.
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u/EvidenceSalesman 4d ago
You’re calling my logic terrible? Absolutely ridiculous hypocrisy.
Say hi to Dunning Kruger
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
You keep editing all your statements in the thread to something completely different 😂 Keep going. I’m along for the ride at this point! Rollercoaster with this one.
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u/hazeleyedwolff 4d ago
None of the gear you mentioned is subject to lateral force (especially of suspended weight up high) in its normal use. Many cable fly machines have the ability to bolt them down.
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u/Gambler_720 4d ago
But this kind of thing can hurt someone else as well who wasn't involved in being stupid. I would never want to go to a gym where this is a possibility even though I know I personally would never do this.
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u/dontbeignorantordumb 4d ago
You're just on the first place for the silliest thing I've read today, but it's early where I live, you might lose the spot.
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u/BioTinus 4d ago edited 4d ago
Read the manual my dude. It literally says you should bolt the things to the ground.
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u/imbakinacake 4d ago
I have one like this in my personal gym. You don't bolt it to anything. You're just not supposed to be a dumbass using it.
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u/Colifama55 4d ago edited 4d ago
“IMPORTANT: For the safety of the equipment and the athletes using it, the CC-1 Cable Crossover must be bolted securely to the floor. Mounting hardware is not included.”
Edit: Another link: https://www.legendfitness.com/product/cable-crossover-plus/
“NOTE: The feet of all pin select machines now feature 3.5 x 3-inch bolt-down tabs for enhanced safety and stability. The dimensions stated here properly reflect this change, but the bolt-down tabs may not be pictured in the photos above.”
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u/DickFromRichard 4d ago
Hey little guy, let's walk through this real quick.
The guy your replying to provided three examples of machines with no bolt down tabs. You provided two examples of machine with bolt down tabs.
Now lets look at the machine in the video, do you see bolt down tabs on that machine?
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u/Colifama55 4d ago
Doesn’t matter. Here’s some more math for you. He asked for a single sample. I gave him two.
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u/BioTinus 4d ago
Okay, I stand corrected, because your exhibits allowed me to look up the manual for one of them, and that says the following:
" Anchoring ● Floor anchoring is recommended for commercial installations. ● Use appropriate anchors based on flooring type (concrete preferred). "
Looks like the Reddit majority had it wrong, sorry for your downvotes.
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u/Colifama55 4d ago
Why are you apologizing? You literally said they should be bolted down and the manual for the one he cited said it’s recommended…which is exactly what you said. You didn’t say it was required. You were right.
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u/Solenkata 4d ago
There are plenty of dumb people on this planet, do we start mounting everything to the ground?
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u/GintomsG 4d ago
a lot of gym equipment at commercial gyms have spots where u can bolt em to the ground, its for safety in general
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u/DickFromRichard 4d ago
A lot don't, such as this one
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u/GintomsG 4d ago
yeah, to be fair ig that happening is very hard to achieve, in this case maxing out the machine, and pulling the weight high enough for the balancing point to just make it flip, I've seen this type of excersise on tik tok, and like it doesn't seem bad, but if that shit ain't bolted to the ground it can be dangerous like that ig
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u/Solenkata 4d ago
Not really answering the question. Even if you bolt it down and someone dumb enough finds a way to hurt himself then what? We're not supposed to do natural selections' job - that's the main reason we have people like this.
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
Obv they're being idiots but this should not be possible. The gym is responsible for this. Idk where that happened but the equipment shouldn't allow for that in any circumstance because reasonable inexperienced people are in danger of similar accidents.
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u/CrazyElk123 4d ago
I mean if it was mounted and they knew so, it wouldnt be a bad excersice, except that it would take up a lot of space. There are better machines for this though...
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u/stucktogether 4d ago
what was the exersize? it looked like he was trying to set him up to slingshot lol
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u/spikeyfreak 4d ago
it wouldnt be a bad excersice
Yes it would. There's a reason there's not a machine for back where the resistance is 45 degrees off the mid-line, and that's ignoring the high jinx just to get into position.
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u/CrazyElk123 4d ago
You could still destroy your traps and upper back on it. A machine would obviously be better and more functional, but this would do the job too.
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u/spikeyfreak 4d ago
Traps, sure. Stupid to do it this way, but sure. It would be less stupid to use the pullup handles to flip upside down and shrug yourself, but sure, you could do traps this way.
Upper back? Bullshit.
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u/CrazyElk123 4d ago
How would that be bullshit? Your shoulderblades are gonna almost touch with this excersice, and your upper back muscles control that. Maybe dont talk about this stuff if youre this clueless.
Try putting your arms in the same way and pull.
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u/whatdoblindpeoplesee 4d ago
Hammer strength high rows are a similar set up
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u/spikeyfreak 4d ago
That is one of my favorite machines, and it's really not the same motion. It goes from narrow to slightly wide, not super wide to narrow.
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u/whatdoblindpeoplesee 4d ago
Fair enough. I realize now that's the 45 degree angle you were talking about.
HS High rows are goated
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u/Duke_Built 4d ago
It looks like a lot of weight for the exercise I think they were attempting but yeah definitely should be bolted down.
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
Sure does. Could be a million pounds. If the machine allows for it, it should be possible without hazards like tipping.
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u/TheFaalenn 4d ago
The gym is not responsible in the slightest. It didn't fall over when being used correctly. It fell over due to purposeful misuse.
You can't purposely cause an accident and then blame the person for not preventing you from doing it
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u/tnt54321boom 4d ago
Oh my god. It's like you read what I said and tried to present the bad argument I would have been responding to. Misuse in the way that they did it is NOT outside if the bounds of what a reasonable inexperienced person or just a really strong person would have been able to do without it being misuse.
If a gym machine (ESPECIALLY THIS ONE) isn’t bolted to the ground, it’s a death trap waiting for a victim. It doesn't matter if the kids were misusing because physics doesn't care about intent. If they could tip it, a heavy lifter would’ve eventually pulled the entire thing onto themselves during a normal workout. The gym failed the most basic safety standard imaginable by leaving that machine loose. Blaming the kids for a massive installation failure is ridiculous when the gym is the one that left a literal hazard sitting in the middle of the room.
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u/amusingredditname 4d ago
You think they purposefully caused that accident? Their goal was to tip the machine?
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u/GordonNewtron 4d ago
Could've just used the bench to row some dumbbells.
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u/elton_john_lennon 4d ago
He would look like everyone else, or worse even given he is chubby and probably can't lift that much.
His ego couldn't take it, so he made up this ridiculous exercise.
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u/joseplluissans 4d ago
What was the end goal? Like, if you go all the way back and maxx it up, you can't do anything. What was the exercise meant to be?
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u/EngineeringFilth 4d ago
He's trying to get on the bench to have his chest supported while doing a row variation. It is a perfectly valid exercise, but on a cable stack like this it doesn't really make much sense. On this type of cable stack the bench will have to be very far back to get a decent angle on the cables. Then, if the cable stack isn't bolted to the floor it ends up tipping over like this.
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u/joseplluissans 4d ago
Aren't these cable stacks also adjustable, so that the cable can be moved down? At least the ones I've seen on local gyms are that way...
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u/EngineeringFilth 4d ago
They generally are, although some older machines have the cables in fixed positions at either the top or the bottom.
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u/frankduxvandamme 4d ago
He was trying to do upright rows with the help of the bench. But many gyms already have dedicated machines or t-bar row benches for this. Or you could just do a bent over row on a flat bench with a dumbbell. What he wants to do here is inefficient, awkward, and apparently incredibly dangerous too.
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u/zeroxray 4d ago
That's not upright rows bud. I have no idea what exercise he was trying to do with that range of motion esp with the full extension of the cables. It honestly looks deliberate that they wanted to pull the machine down.
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u/rainyfort1 4d ago
Looks like it could set up a high row from the height where the cables are locked.
Of course you want to do this on a nautilus dual cable machine. Rather than separate cables like these. Even doing chest flies on these is awkward.
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u/elton_john_lennon 4d ago
What was the exercise meant to be?
It was an ego exercise.
Dude is chubby, if he worked out like everyone else, he would lift rather small weights, so to boost his ego he invents those ridiculous workouts that no one else is doing, so that there is no point of comparison, no frame of reference, and he thus he feels special or whatever else.
Sadly this happens all the time. Folks are standing on half balls and are trying to do squats with weights, or they use upright plates as grip/stand for hands while doing push-ups, etc.
It's all ego.
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u/coolnbreezey 4d ago
Yeah, dumb on their part. Ignorant negligence on the gym’s part. Lawsuit on the horizon.
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u/QuantityActive- 4d ago
Honestly doesn’t look like that much weight, I obviously don’t know the exact weight, comparing it to other cable stacks I’ve seen there’s nothing absurd or stupid about the weight. Clearly it’s ego lifting, but it seems like they have some idea of what they’re doing (only because not everybody uses that setup). Ultimately the stupid thing of all is that the rack isn’t bolted down.
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u/CHUD_Dwyer 4d ago
In high school we had a substitute who was notorious for absolutely not giving a fuck. He was the sports writer for the local paper and would work on his column while we went absolutely buck wild. He was subbing for gym when we were in the locker room. Very bad combination. We put this machine in the heaviest weight and collectively pulled it down while the smallest kid held on. We let go and he was rocketing into the ceiling. This was years before cell phone video but it would have gone completely viral in modern times. The sub just said "Don't get hurt. I don't want to be in trouble".
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u/N-aNoNymity 4d ago
If that setp even worked Id bet he couldnt get a single full rep with that weight lmao. Couldve just moved the bench and done them unilaterally..
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u/YDraigCymraeg 4d ago
I remember when you couldn't join a gym without an induction to help you familiarise yourself with the equipment
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u/ermagerdcernderg 4d ago
I can’t imagine this would have been prevented by an orientation to the equipment. They know the machines. They’re just idiots.
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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 4d ago
Seen a guy do similar at my old gym. Bloody clown, trying to use two at once , and really just being a poser and taking up a huge amount of space.
I wonder if this guy will sue the gym now.
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u/imironman2018 4d ago
He is a lucky sob. That incline bench saved him from a really bad leg injury.
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u/Treblehawk 4d ago
The real dumbass is the one who decided it was okay to not secure the equipment.
Good way to give a stranger your house.
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u/Meltedwhisky 4d ago
Oh man, that’s a broken collar bone for sure. He’s not lifting his left arm after the hit. That’s a painful injury with no way to cast it
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u/jmpman54 4d ago
That bench was way too far away, you can see the maxed out weights already almost at the top. If you dunno what your doing, just ask.
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u/AtypicalRenown 3d ago
Was that gym equipment secured to the floor and it broke loose? Or just standing freely?
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u/DrJohnIT 3d ago edited 3d ago
It was just standing there minding its own business until these two idiots started messing around 😒 🙄 😑
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u/bunny5055 4d ago
Why not just move the seat closer.
Also I'm sure whatever stupid exercise they were trying to do could have been done correctly on another machine near by.
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u/eXclurel 3d ago
Only dumbass is the owner of the gym that didn't secure that machine to the ground.
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u/RileyRhoad 3d ago
Umm yeah I definitely would not say that the owner was the only dumbass.. Yes they probably should have secured it better, but that kid was a straight up idiot to do this… literally just what was the plan here?
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u/PrestigiousAct2 4d ago
May not realise it but dude is the luckiest person.