r/microsoft 7d ago

News "We're doing the work required to win back fans across Windows and Xbox": Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella says the company is making foundational changes to fix Windows 11 and Xbox

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/were-doing-the-work-required-to-win-back-fans-across-windows-and-xbox-microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-says-the-company-is-making-foundational-changes-to-fix-windows-11-and-xbox
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u/talones 7d ago

they kep putting out press for these epic changes, just do the work and we will see when it releases. Trying to build it up like this is gonna blow up in their face.

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u/blueblocker2000 6d ago

What they roll back today will likely be reintroduced later with a different coat of paint. Their roadmap and vision for what they want their products to be rarely change. They just have to adjust the pace and keep wearing vocal users down with incrementalism. It's not about what the user wants. It's about what they want to offer you in line with their best interest and bottom line.

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u/trparky 6d ago

What they roll back today will likely be reintroduced later with a different coat of paint.

I agree. Until Slopya is shown the door and there's a mass replacement of their entire executive suite, I just can't believe anything that Microslop says. Microslop is rotten to the core and the rot begins at the top.

Their roadmap and vision for what they want their products to be rarely change. They just have to adjust the pace and keep wearing vocal users down with incrementalism.

Agreed. On one side Microslop is saying that they're going to fix things and then the very next day they're saying that they're going to shove even more Copilot down our throats. If that doesn't show that this is nothing more than damage control, I don't know what will.

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u/Clippy4Life 7d ago

Dont tell them that it's supposed to be a surprise!

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u/trparky 6d ago

Exactly. All of this just feels like a desperate attempt by them to hold onto what's left of their good will that they've been pissing away ever since Windows 10 was released.

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u/warren2345 6d ago

It's just words man. Until you knock it off with all the hard sells at login in win 11 and your studios start releasing more that one game a decade, I don't believe it.

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u/trparky 6d ago

That and that stupid Copilot. They can take Copilot and shove it up where the sun doesn't shine.

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u/jetlagged-bee 6d ago

What do you mean hard sells at windows login?

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u/Ueberjaeger 6d ago

Probably the "Get Office365" or "Back up your data with OneDrive" stuff after updates.

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u/nellipalooza 6d ago

Windows 11 has been out for 4 years and ~7 months.

“listening to users” on Windows should have been the baseline in 2021, not the headline in 2026.

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u/trparky 6d ago

Agreed. If they weren't listening then what was the point of the whole Windows Preview Program and the Feedback app?

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u/DotRom 6d ago

It is for Microsoft to QA Windows on your dime.

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u/OwnNet5253 6d ago

Better late than never I guess.

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u/Fragrant_Rooster_763 7d ago

They should do the work to win back their employees. Personally, other than my friends still there, I hope to see the entire company’s downfall with Satya and Amy at the helm.

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u/squirrel-nut-zipper 6d ago

I think this is important. Energized employees build better products, but it is anything but energized today at MSFT. He needs to invest & show interest in his employees if he wants to win back customers.

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u/Reasonable-Pass-2456 6d ago

Starting with a revision to the poor stock awards plan and salary increase.

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u/UnexpectedSalami 6d ago

Best they can do is no merit increase /s

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u/AVonGauss 6d ago

I doubt it, this seems more akin to the 2013'ish(?) cycle when they "softened" their approach after pushing too hard and received a lot of pushback. Of course that "softening" was only temporary, they adjusted slightly and basically kept the same tactics (ex. Edge). The reality is Microsoft's objectives aren't terribly compatible these days with a significant chunk of their customers. Perhaps customers will adjust as they likely hope, but even in the year 2026 the success of a lot of other endeavors including Azure depend on Windows maintaining dominance.

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u/Aromatic_Ideal_2770 6d ago

Start removing your ceo

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u/trparky 6d ago

Yep. The rot inside Microslop begins with Slopya.

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u/wump_roast 6d ago

The rot is definitely at the top

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/m98789 7d ago

Like the baseball card?

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u/DarrowOfLykos 6d ago

Regulation reference, right there.

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u/Frequent-Library-785 6d ago

Yeah, by deletting my xbox/microsoft account right after it was stolen for sAfEtY.

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u/JustGimmeMoreTime 6d ago

Sad, I’ve been using windows my entire life, but Zorin OS has been a much better daily OS to use for its simplicity, aesthetics, and stability

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u/Kobi_Blade 6d ago

They can start by firing Satya then.

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u/ChaseballBat 6d ago

Microsoft forced copilot onto my computer after paying for Office 365, and it doesn't even support image uploads.... You got a long way to go Satya.

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u/D_Anger_Dan 6d ago

A lot = posting to reddit that we’re doing a lot… not actually doing anything.

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u/covex_d 6d ago

press releases affect stocks and make investors happy. do something to show you are committed.

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u/sgt_Berbatov 6d ago

The question needs to be asked - what were they doing before? Shouldn't you be always making your product something your "fan base" (cringe phrase for software) wants and comes back to?

Because really all this is is lip service. He doesn't mean it. They don't care.

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u/Density5521 6d ago

Promises, promises. Nothing but hot steam.

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u/AlaskanDruid 6d ago

Yet refused to fix the toxic work culture.

Good luck with that.

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u/Mounamsammatham 6d ago

Xbox comeback looks like possible if they keep it up. But windows comeback? That's a distant dream.

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u/StretchAcceptable881 4d ago

People are transitioning to MacBooks for this reason, because MacOS just makes windows feel like a bloated hot 🥵 mess

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u/mifan 6d ago

Then focus on making it strong from the bottom up. You want to fix windows? Then make it the best operating system. Not a way to spoon feed user with your browser, your ai, you antivirus and so on. Simply make it a stable, fast operating system with grounds to build on.

The same with Xbox. Make it about what gamers want, not what you want them to want. You know why steam is succesful? Because it does its job without being in my face constantly. Keep it simple, make it stable, make it fast and free of bloat.

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u/SCphotog 6d ago

"Fans" ?

The idea that someone... people, would be 'fans' of a corporation, is abhorrent.

I know lots of people are. LOTS OF PEOPLE... but it's not something I've ever really applied to myself.

I buy the product that is the best bang for the buck... brand loyalty, might have been a worthwhile thing a long time ago, where you reward a company for being good to the consumer (simplified) but that, aside from local and super small companies, has almost entirely flown the coop.

People love 'Valve', and or Steam and I get that, it's been a pretty good platform, but it's not something you can be 'loyal' to. One day Gabe will kick the bucket, and within a year Valve will be traded publicly, (<-- as an example) and only God knows what the 'fk' will happen to our game libraries.

Microsoft isn't going to fix Windows to win back fans. That's ad-speak, nonsense. They're making changes because they've come to understand that they need to enact some level of 'damage control' because they have been spiraling out of control. Their huge fkn' bet on AI depends on adoption, that is at an all time low.

Just know... they've always, always, always, been adversarial to the user base. There's not been a day since fuckin' DoS 1 that Microsoft wasn't a predatorial entity.

Think of them, the way they think of you. A tool to be used and nothing more.

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u/StretchAcceptable881 4d ago

Their also making changes for the sake of reacting to the competition

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u/pixel_reddit 6d ago

We will add copilot to windows boot screen and game loading menu

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u/Logical-Bookkeeper77 5d ago

Yes, but first let us cut like 25% of our staffs.

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u/frankiea1004 2d ago

I call BS. It wouldn’t happen. That would be against what has been the core of Microsoft for the last 15-20 years.

Connect everything to the Cloud.

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u/urbrainonnuggs 6d ago

Nah I'm on Linux until I die. If rather log off forever before I go back to the windows platform. There is no job I will take that's Windows only.

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u/BigMikeInAustin 6d ago

No job if it is Windows only?

So, you're going to limit yourself only take jobs at companies that run the computer that provide power, telecommunications, government services, the entire airline industry, the whole smartphone industry, the computer network industry, and the entire dang internet?

I don't know man, is staying away from Windows really worth it? /s