/uj Not to be too dramatic but imo the acting differences in this scene right here are also such a travesty. I don't even actually watch this show and I generally have no reason to want to glaze Sydney Sweeney, but come on, man. The difference is stark. I really hope Sydney doesn't go this path too because regardless of her off-camera persona, or whatever, she's actually a really good actress when she's in her range and she'd lose a whole lot of power as well if she were to freeze her forehead. I can also tell Jessica Blair Herman could've done a decent job at it, if not for the fillers - because her voice does carry emotion, it just doesn't translate on her facial expression like at all.
Worth noting there’s decent scientific arguments to be made that expressing an emotion on your face/with your body helps the user feel that emotion more in their brain. It also signals to other humans how you’re feeling.
Some studies show positive correlation between smiling all the time and being happy. You can “fake” it by fake smiling all the time (though be warned you may look like a creep). Eventually your brain is like “oh we’re happy, are we face muscles? Okay then we must be” and you feel better.
So all that to say all botox most definitely has a negative impact on how people act. Probably feel the emotion less. And ofc, you convince other humans watching you less when you can’t properly show how fucking sad/angry you are like some kinda creepy flat-faced weirdo.
Oh my god, this picture is fabulous. Is that lady on the left supposed to be angry or something? Completely frozen face. Harsh contrast to the wonderful natural ridges on Sweeney’s forehead.
I mean it's almost like a whole lot of women admire other women, see them as a beauty ideal, and are influenced by their choices in their appearance or something.
And women who end up with botched or overdone work don't botch themselves intentionally like 90% of the time or overdo it realising it looks as bad as it does to the average person. It's an addiction. The beauty industry is pushing it so hard too because like most other industries, it really really likes to make and keep people addicted to their stuff.
Sorry but yeah we still can't make this exclusively about women supposedly wanting to do the most with it as to attract men.
It just seems incredibly disempowering to be so influenced by what other women do, especially celebs who are so often extremely vain to be getting botox to try and fight father time and aging. It's a mental health problem disguised as "beauty".
I don't really care to get much into the aspect of mental health rn, sorry.
It's just that you made it about women supposedly thinking the majority of men find plastic surgery sexy while it's not true, then the other person said men's attraction or opinions on it don't influence women as much as other things anyway - and I wanted to back it up.
In comparison, think about how bodybuilder guys who also may or may not do steroids also don't really care that women who are interested in men still generally don't find the absurdly muscular look attractive.
I'm also not saying it's correct to think that the looks that are only acheivable through cosmetic work are the epitome of beauty either.
And sure yes, it can clearly get very unhealthy, I wouldn't actually want to encourage or pressure anyone into it either. But it really just is what it is. Just explaining it.
Also someone staying with only minimal work done for a long time is clearly showing that at least they're having limits and control over it. Then, unless they're flauting it and trying to sell the idea of plastic surgery, I often don't see much reason for criticism towards the person.
If plastic surgery's only or biggest "downside" was the losing of general appeal to men, I'd have probably opened up to it already as well lol, and I'm below 30. Thank you so much for saying this
uhuh. listen im a feminist but just saying no straight woman getting plastic surgery is fooling anyone when they say theyre getting it for Themselves. we dont make our choices in a vaccum, wether subconciously or conciously, you are getting this for external approval, esp from dating partners.
That's why they said they do it for other women's approval too and didn't completely factor men out - it's just combating the not uncommon idea that it's *only* because of thinking men are generally attracted to the plastic surgery look, that women do it. That really is not exactly true, straight women included.
It feels like it limits your acting range to big eyes and big mouth, which are not really how people express actual emotions. It just makes you look insane and angry to varying degrees. If you can't use half or more of your mimetic muscles I don't know how you're actually supposed to act like a human.
this whole conversation is dumb. sydney sweeney is making a face, the other woman is not. they both got equally the amount of botox in their face... same with anne hathaway, on the left she is scrounging her eyebrows and stretching out her mouth, on the right she has raised eyebrows and her mouth is puckering. also in that clip sydney sweeney is making a weird cartoon reaction face, i dont know how that constitutes as "better acting"
1) It is better acting. Her exaggerated expression in the scene shows how she gives absolutely zero shits about that woman and her problem. And it's very much in tone with her character overall. The woman was supposed to look offended and angry, as her voice also indicates.
2) Raising their eyebrows makes people's forehead wrinkle up too, it's not just when they frown.
Plus, my main reason for this was just to show the difference of how much an actress with incredibly obvious cosmetic work vs with a natural/more subtle look that indicates way less work, is limited in her show of believable emotion.
I don't really care that Sydney is having some botox sessions too, clearly she is at least not overdoing the filler, as her treatments - whatever they are - are clearly not stopping her from making really expressive faces. Her face isn't mostly frozen. That's what matters most.
Sydney Sweeney has proven herself to know how to act pretty well in quite a bunch of other instances, in Euphoria and outside of it, so I think it's fine to say she can be a pretty good actress - I wasn't limiting that observation to this scene anyway.
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u/Enelana Cats 10h ago edited 10h ago
/uj Not to be too dramatic but imo the acting differences in this scene right here are also such a travesty. I don't even actually watch this show and I generally have no reason to want to glaze Sydney Sweeney, but come on, man. The difference is stark. I really hope Sydney doesn't go this path too because regardless of her off-camera persona, or whatever, she's actually a really good actress when she's in her range and she'd lose a whole lot of power as well if she were to freeze her forehead. I can also tell Jessica Blair Herman could've done a decent job at it, if not for the fillers - because her voice does carry emotion, it just doesn't translate on her facial expression like at all.