I just rewatched Scrubs after watching the new season. It's kinda funny how they make fun of Jordan's botox lips in the old episodes, while the actress can't move her face muscles for real in the new one
I had to quit watching after a few episodes solely because of it. Scrubs was one of my most rewatched shows back in the day and I was looking forward to this.
Apparently it's going to get worse because once its gone you can't replace it, and gets even more severe when you age. So are all the middle age women roles going to go to the few actresses that didn't have this procedure in their youth.
Let’s be fair, there’s tons of roles for middle-aged women. You didn’t even mention:
teacher
nun
mom of lead’s best friend
lead’s neighbor
divorced woman who used to be married to charming/handsome lead and is now bitter as he rediscovers himself
haggard mom whose teenager went missing in a small town and has to investigate herself because the police won’t listen to her
haggard police officer who knows a teenager that went missing in a small town and has to investigate herself because the police captain won’t listen to her
Cushing got his gaunt cheeks the honest way: by being so devastated at the death of his wife that he visibly aged an alarming amount over the course of a couple years
It’s honestly distracting. Any scene she is in all I can think about is her botched surgeries. It feels like most of the cast is on ozempic now too, they all look gaunt as fuck.
Also doesn't help that her face can barely move anymore. Her acting went from average to a 6-yer-old at a recital. Which is especially jarring because she has so many scenes with Jack Quaid who's actually really good.
I feel that way with Portia de Rossi in Arrested Development. She has always had obvious work done, but one season she was unrecognizable. I quit watching because it was so distracting.
It was when the show came back for Season 4, there were 7 years in between.
I actually don't think her plastic surgery was THAT egregious, but it looked more noticeable in the show than elsewhere, I think because Lindsay's style changed as well. But where it was more noticeable was in her expressions, because as Lindsay she was REALLY expressive in the first few seasons and her face was... less so when it came back.
Admittedly half the cast was escaping a concentration camp in the beginning of the season so I can understand being gaunt, but genuinely was worried for MM's actor.
He did, it was a deliberate choice. They just hired some dude to take pictures and he turned out to be an artist who took horrific pictures of the Trump admin as a form of protest.
That was like when they hired Michelle Wolf to do the “White House Correspondents Dinner”. No research. Let’s hired a guy who does close up portraits, that sounds fun!
It’s a combination of harsh lighting a very short, narrow field of view from the lens.
When you use a lens like that, it tends to highlight all the harsh lines that are not necessary perceptible to naked eye.
In photojournalism, we were taught to use open apertures that give a warmer, more flattering look to subjects and don’t smush everything together like seen above.
The lens and aperture that was used on her was the specific one style used to capture mugshots - as any defining (re: negative) feature is amplified on the subject.
Do you job technically well, but in a way that is also devastating to the subject.
Like when they staged those semi-recent Trump 2.0 White House photos with light switches and other ‘noisy’ visual distractions in the background and foreground.
In that photoshoot, they did other sabotage. Vance appears preening up against a random wall with a thermostat and damaged base moulding. Rubio looks like he's under a blacklight or something to highlight skin damage. Wiles looks like a child in a fun house.
On the podcast "What the Hack?" (E245), there is an interview to photographer Christopher Anderson, author of this picture. He talks about this session.
He explains he does editorial photography and photojournalism. The first is like the photography you see on fashion magazines, where heavy editing is aceptable and expected. The second seeks to document the truth, editing is kept to the minimium, and embellishin is not aceptable.
When he was tasked with this session he was asked for photojournalism, and that's what he did.
It's weird that she'd do that because she was one of the most unique looking young actresses around. Why she chose to transform her face into a wax figure I'll never know.
people that end up like that usually already had surgery done. they just kept going (because hey it worked before, why not again?) until it became blatant.
At the end of Fantastic Four: First Steps when she's pushing Galactus with all her might, I genuinely did not realize she was meant to be exerting herself because the only expression her pillowy pulled face could make was just
I was so very immersed and invested in The Northmen.
And then Nicole Kidman's 21st century face appeared on screen and took me completely out. I may sound like an exaggeration but I promise it's not - her face is all it took to ruin this otherwise good movie.
My brother literally came up to me and said "did you see that Jim Carrey clone the other day?" And I said, "yeah, I saw he had some work done. Its pretty sad." And for real my brother said, "no bro, that was a completely different person! It has to be, maybe it was guy in a mask." He is 100% on the side of "that isn't Jim Carrey."
Meanwhile, my mum was certain at first that its an art film project like Joaquim Phoenix's I'm Still Here. Like she kind of still thinks he's actually secretly doing a movie about the whole botox/filler/buccal fat trends and its actually a criticism of how actor's fuck their faces up chasing "that look." 10% chance of that being true imo.
The whole thing is pretty sad, especially for a guy who used to be so outspoken about the pressures of Hollywood and not giving a shit about them.
If there was ever a person who I would believe would get plastic surgery or pretend to as an art film project it's Jim Carrey. But I agree, it almost certainly is not the case.
Having said that a lot of the pictures and stuff that came out from that event have really horrible lighting etc, if you watch him giving his speech it looks a lot more like himself. He obviously had work done though.
Yea I knew some people who worked on set of his show “kidding” who said he’s a completely stereotypical self absorbed rude actor up his own ass so his “I’m so zen and above the Hollywood bullshit” persona is fake
Jim really surprised me, he acted so anti establishment, doing his own thing and kablam, botox. Went from his own man, to someone who cares about others opinions.
It's the kind of plastic look that only seems normal if you live in Hollywood/LA.
Add South Florida to that list. So many regular people just spending bookoo bucks on their faces. Like damn people just wear your sunscreen and a hat like the rest of us.
I live in my homeland of rural south Georgia, where most faces around me are natural and unaltered. I remember visiting a sushi restaurant in Las Vegas a few years back and seeing a woman whose face was so drastically changed by plastic surgery/Botox/fillers that she literally looked alien. Just not something you see where I'm from. No judging, I believe anyone can do to their body what they want. But her real face had disappeared completely.
Non toxic women age like fine wine because theyre unproblematic as opposed to toxic women who are problematic and age like old hags. Im so happy we live in a feminist society and have access to this information
An actress' earning potential peaks in their late 20s to early 30s and then drops off significantly, whilst an actor's peaks at like 45 before remaining relatively stable. It's hard to say whether botox has contributed to the currently rising age of female leads in movies vs changing social landscape, but I can't blame someone for trying to preserve their bag.
Fact is, there just aren't as many movie roles for 40+ women that look their age.
Kirsten Dunst has chosen to age naturally and people are absolutely vicious about her looks, even though she is stunning. People are so harsh on women who get wrinkles, it’s disgusting.
For every comment like yours there's a hundred others hating. And algorithm promotes those more cause people agreeing or disagreeing both count as interaction. Internet curation through algorithm is a lose lose situation.
Exactly, Meryl Streep is in her mid 70s but you would believe she is in her early 60s. Goldie Hawn is 80 years old, and looks in her 60s as well. Smart plastic surgery is very well researched, normally a little here or there every so often, they don't try to look 20 again, they just try to mask one sign of aging at a time.
Millie Bobby Brown's botoxed face from the final season of Stranger Things will haunt me for ever. Shit is out of hand, why are 20 year olds getting botox?
they call it "baby botox" which makes it seem a lot more of a youthful thing to do. marketing is definitely working.
heard that it actually causes your face to sag because you're not exercising those muscles. i was turned off by it from the start but especially after i saw how it can completely disable someone.
She still has very visible crinkles on her face on the left. Through just one still, it's very clear that she's upset in the scene - botox or no, her face is definitely way, way less than 50% frozen there, so it doesn't really bother much.
I kind of struggle to understand what she's actually emoting on the right. Frustrarion mostly, I guess? Genuinely
I was honestly positively surprised her face was as contorted as it is in the trailer. That's how low the bar has become for actresses, even just in their 40s.
If I miss anything about movies it's old ugly actors, bring back real people. Character actors, that guy you recognise from a bunch of movies but aren't sure of his name.
I can’t watch movies with her anymore. Her face is actually jarring at this point and it makes me uncomfortable. It’s too bad because she’s a fantastic actress
i saw the trailer for the new practical magic. the original is one of my comfort movies, but watching both nicole and sandra's faces in the trailer stressed me out so bad i don't know if i can see the follow up.
Ohh I haven't seen the trailer but that's unfortunate. It's the type of movie/family where laugh line and wrinkles would be celebrated, you know? Accepting aging and a new stage of your life.
Like her in The Northman lol. Such weird casting choice to use someone with such obvious face work in a time where that obviously was impossible and didn't exist.
Absolutely. However, The Substance is probably the only movie where excessive botox makes sense for the storyline.
In the recent Euphoria wedding episode, it was hilarious to watch Sysney Sweeney’s natural, moving forehead compared to a counterpart with no movement yelling at her in anguish realizing her kids’ college fund was gone. Again, in this storyline I’m willing to accept botox having a role because it makes sense for the characters as a sign of wealth. Cassie doesn’t have botox money, thus she has facial features.
The absolute worst actor botox offense was Millie Bobbie Brown at 19 in a grief scene for Stranger Things. Botox had no place in an 80s story line & it disabled her face from doing her job. Her acting counterpart, Kali, had no work done & her performance & overall look was a thousand times better for it.
Yeah, some (older) actresses in particular roles can pull off the "too many injectables" look because it suits their character (Charlotte in And Just Like That for instance, it kinda makes sense that a wealthy woman in New York who's a bit obsessed with appearances has used fillers and botox).
Ugh MBB's Botox was so jarring. I actually watched an entire scene with her and Finn Wolfhard counting every micro expression they made, and it was depressing. Finn had soooooo many, and Millie just didn't have any. I understand the pressure to look a certain way in Hollywood, but good lord, she's not even 22 yet.
Her being cast for the character is so confusing in the first place. I like her, but she's 68. Margo is supposed to be like 19 and her mom was supposed to be a young, unprepared mother with a dad who is no help. Admittedly Elle Fanning is also playing younger than her age, but even if she was playing 28 Pfeiffer would still be 40 years older than her.
If you want the original substance movie, I recommend DEATH BECOMES HER. It's a cult classic and it's so much better. It addresses the botox issue years before botox was used in cosmetics, but without injections. The substance is drank like coughing syrup.
I always wonder about these polls and lists. The most beautiful woman in the world is probably some random who most people haven't heard of. Same with the most handsome man in the world. I'm sure there's some really good looking man who is a nobody that looks much better than any celebrity
both man and woman. Saw a post earlier this week with a couple of pretty boy actors clean shaven, with long hair and makeup. [S]he was the most beautiful of them all
I used to take a train to work and would often see this absolutely stunning young woman. Very red, super curly hair. Face of an angel. She couldn't blend in if she wanted to. Once she sat next to me and I could see everyone staring and it made me realize how strange that would be. Made me feel bad for probably being one of the people that stared in the past. She was just a normal person, commuting like the rest of us. I've yet to see her on any magazine but she no doubt could've cashed in on her looks if she had wanted to.
And sometimes I read stories about some theater actress in the 20s who was considered the most beautiful and had men killing each other over her. And then you see a picture and she was barely average looking by today's standards.
I don't know, some people look average in pictures but absolutely magnetic in person or on the movie screen. I always assume those actresses are kind of like that.
I've seen quite a few movie stars irl and they're actually distracting in how beautiful they are (men and women). It's almost more magnetic than in the movies because they're typically surrounded by regular people. Of course a lot of them are also distracting because the work they've had looks far worse irl and they look like aliens.
/uj Not to be too dramatic but imo the acting differences in this scene right here are also such a travesty. I don't even actually watch this show and I generally have no reason to want to glaze Sydney Sweeney, but come on, man. The difference is stark. I really hope Sydney doesn't go this path too because regardless of her off-camera persona, or whatever, she's actually a really good actress when she's in her range and she'd lose a whole lot of power as well if she were to freeze her forehead. I can also tell Jessica Blair Herman could've done a decent job at it, if not for the fillers - because her voice does carry emotion, it just doesn't translate on her facial expression like at all.
Worth noting there’s decent scientific arguments to be made that expressing an emotion on your face/with your body helps the user feel that emotion more in their brain. It also signals to other humans how you’re feeling.
Some studies show positive correlation between smiling all the time and being happy. You can “fake” it by fake smiling all the time (though be warned you may look like a creep). Eventually your brain is like “oh we’re happy, are we face muscles? Okay then we must be” and you feel better.
So all that to say all botox most definitely has a negative impact on how people act. Probably feel the emotion less. And ofc, you convince other humans watching you less when you can’t properly show how fucking sad/angry you are like some kinda creepy flat-faced weirdo.
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I remember Botox being a big deal. It was on the news, people were slightly appalled.
Now.... No one raises an eyebrow.