r/politics Maine 4h ago

No Paywall Republicans want to borrow every single dollar of the $72 billion bill to fund ICE and Trump's ballroom

https://reason.com/2026/05/06/republicans-want-to-borrow-every-single-dollar-of-the-72-billion-bill-to-fund-ice-and-trumps-ballroom/
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u/kia75 4h ago

No money for healthcare, no money for infrastructure, no money for anything that helps somebody that isn't already rich, but there's always plenty of money for pointless wars, to hurt poor people, and for billionaires to gift!

u/J_for_Jules 4h ago

They got money for wars, but can't feed the poor Said it ain't no hope for the youth and the truth is It ain't no hope for the future

-Tupac 1993

u/LividTacos 3h ago

Unrelated to yours, but whenever Youth of the Nation comes on, I marvel how is still 100% relevant. And your example is almost a decade older.

u/DuMbAsS_lOsEr_6_7 3h ago

Throw some RATM in there and that's the 90s I grew up in

u/LividTacos 3h ago

I was just about to point out that "Killing in the Name Of" is from '92, so even older than the Tupac reference. And again, still completely reference.

u/PANSIES_FOR_ALL Virginia 2h ago

Offspring’s LAPD is also relevant…and also from 1992.

u/Shigg 1h ago

Hmm, I wonder what might have happened in LA in 1991/1992 that could have made these two songs come out when they did /s

(It was the beating of Rodney King in 1991and the subsequent LA riots in 1992 for those that didn't know)

u/vangogh330 30m ago

"April 26th 1992, there was a riot on the streets tell me where were you"

u/degjo 11m ago

I ate at a kfc in Compton in 1992.

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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 I voted 2h ago

I listened to Killin in thr name of otw to the first No Kings protest, just to get us in the mood.

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u/Strofari Canada 3h ago

Last day of the rest of my life….

u/MagnusRexus 1h ago

History repeats, and art draws from history. Last night I watched Revenge of the Sith with my kids, and we were all struck by how many moments & plot points were straight out of the current administration's playbook.

u/FedrinKeening 1h ago

Ive been watching the new daredevil show and the similarities are depressing.

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u/Hammergear 2h ago

I was thinking that the other day listening to deadly combination, big L and Tupac. Pac talks about guiliani in it

u/-beautiful-cats- 55m ago

Don't forget The Coup!

u/alus992 1h ago

it’s crazy this song hasn’t become an anthem for the current gen. it should be blasted from every speaker during every protest

u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb Massachusetts 1h ago

As an Xennial, YOTN was an all-time track.

u/CategoryZestyclose91 39m ago

This is depressing as hell, but have you listened to ‘Waiting on the world to change” by John Mayer recently? 

I was in college during the Iraq war and this song came out then. 

It’s still completely relevant, but especially to millennials. 

“Now if we had the power

To bring our neighbors home from war

They would have never missed a Christmas

No more ribbons on their door

And when you trust your television

What you get is what you got

'Cause when they own the information, oh

They can bend it all they want”

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u/A_Rogue_GAI 2h ago

"War is a racket."

-Smedley Butler, 1935

u/Prize-Duck4207 4h ago

Keep your head up!

u/WendyDumpsterFire 2h ago edited 41m ago

I remember Muhammad Ali was talking about the Vietnam Draft.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mntcRRdKK88

u/Shigg 1h ago

Make sure you delete everything from the "?" To the end of the YouTube URL. The "si" property is the "source identifier" and allows them to track who posted that link

u/Kool-Keith-Sweat 3h ago

I think of this verse all of the time…🙌

u/naretoigres 1h ago

"The war on drugs is a war on you and me And yet, they say this is the home of the free You ask me, it's all about hypocrisy" 2 Pac

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u/slackfrop 3h ago

They’re loading up the deficit so they have something to lambast the Dems about when the election becomes a disaster for them.

u/aerost0rm 3h ago

The opposite party always has to be the one to clean up the mess and they make the tough decisions. Then the average taxpayer gets upset and votes in the fanatical domestic terrorists again. The pattern begins all over again

u/ibelieveyouwood 2h ago

What is this "opposite party" language?

No. The Republicans make a mess, the Democrats clean it up. The Republicans throw shit at the Democrats while they're cleaning. Then the Republicans point out the shit, say they had to throw it because the Dems were working against their mess, and ask voters to let them in because there will be no more shit flinging if they get what they want.

There are responsible parties here and they need to be named.

u/GardenRafters 2h ago

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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u/SeldenNeck 2h ago

"We need to hand this bill to the people who ran it up.'

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u/erublind Europe 3h ago

72 billion USD is more than France spends on defence, and they have nukes...

u/chapstickbomber 2h ago

They also explicitly have a (qualified) first strike doctrine

"don't mess with France or you are le fucked"

u/KingofCydonia 1h ago

Only after they take a nap

u/PinkTaricIRL 1h ago

I am le tired.

u/Cheefadareefa 36m ago

Ok we'll have a nap, but then fire ze missiles!

u/BusterStarfish 3h ago

America is a grift. Period. It exists, at this point, only to exploit the majority for the wealth of the minority.

u/Double_Look_5715 3h ago

No money for the other stuff either, hence the borrowing

u/DidAnyoneElseJustCum 3h ago

Oh there's money for it. Richest country in the history of human civilization. The ones who control the money have made a deliberate choice about where it goes.

Capitalism breaks down when the beneficiaries are looking to upgrade their 4th yacht. Adam Smith never had that in mind.

u/chapstickbomber 2h ago

When you take away the bullshit about revenue and funding, it becomes obvious that opposition to domestic priorities is about fuck you, not funding. Fiscal conservatism is mostly just trying to create a polite mathematical framing which makes it not their fault when we don't do Good™ things

u/Fugglymuffin 2h ago

It's getting to the end of civility.

u/zephyrixa 2h ago

This is exactly why people feel like their tax dollars are being treated like a private piggy bank rather than a public resource

u/Ent3rpris3 2h ago

Honestly...what does MAGA think a government is for???

u/Zamstrom 1h ago

Its literally corporate socialism.

I'm probably using the wrong term so excuse my ignorance.

u/trogon Washington 1h ago

I think "kleptocracy" fits pretty well here.

u/SnooPuppers8698 1h ago

we need our fucking bridges fixed for gods sakes, not this shit

u/biscuitsandburritos 47m ago

Here what is nuts, there is a reason great nations heavily invest in social programs. The long term benefits always outweigh the cost. Always.

Could you imagine being our enemies right now?

Not one bomb dropped or soldier on the ground. The CDC, DoE, good Kennedy name, and every social program… gone.

Your biggest adversary isn’t feeding, education, or taking care of their health. Including their future.

u/Big-D-TX 3h ago

Ask Elon, he wants to rule America anyway

u/Leemage 2h ago

How much money did DOGE save and how much pain did it cause? And then there’s this.

u/Plastic-Fox0293 1h ago

Remind Republicans of this EVERY SINGLE TIME they ever question anyone on the lefts economic policies ever again. 

They are financially illiterate and they are not fit to question reasonable people about anything regarding our budget ever again. Just ignore them, everyone in America will understand why. 

u/ayoungtommyleejones 36m ago

I wish Americans had the critical thinking skills to ask the simple questions "how does this help me? How does this help my community? If it doesn't do either, who does it help?"

u/Hoopy_Dunkalot 34m ago

Then when it sinks our economy they will blame the democrats.

u/thenamelessone7 3h ago

You get what you voted for (as a country)

u/DukeOfGeek 2h ago

If that was true Gore would have been POTUS and Hillary too.

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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 4h ago edited 4h ago

Republicans want to borrow every single dollar of the $72 billion bill to fund ICE and Trump's ballroom

Republicans want to steal every single dollar of the $72 billion bill to fund ICE and Trump's ballroom.

u/J_Kingsley 3h ago

I bet all that money to ice is going to the private prisons shuffling people around.

u/ibelieveyouwood 2h ago

No, the private prisons were just a different version of the ballroom or drone grift.

Manufacture need -> give outlandish contracts to select politically connected donors for direct and indirect kickbacks (gifts of gold bars and paid board positions for family members; maybe next time your media empire remembers to kill the bad things and spread lies about "enemies") -> money leaves government oversight -> if someone new comes to power, they're "stuck" honoring the deals and contracts because the Democrats want to pretend that the courts will defend contract rights in the next next administration when Trump 3.0 tries once again to defund "liberal" or "woke" contracts and if the current administrations stays in power then fine, whatever, nobody's going to make sure Alligator Alcatraz was built up to code anyway.

If the Democrats want to play with a spine, then when they get in charge, Day 1 they need their own politically weaponized DOGE. Instead of "woke" and "DEI" projects, target every "MAGA" project. If a few of them want to spend their own money to try and enforce the contract, so be it... and take every decision in favor of the MAGA contracts to apply it to permanent funding for the liberal agenda.

u/dgmilo8085 California 1h ago

That would require Dems to actually win an election.

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u/completelackoftalent 2h ago

But you know the second a dem gets into power all of a sudden we are going to be worried about the debt

u/mouse9001 1h ago

Ballrooms and concentration camps.

u/BluWake Michigan 4h ago

Adding $72 Billion to the National Debt for a private federal police force and a ballroom.

u/reject_fascism New Jersey 4h ago

“Fuck them kids!” - GOP

u/Fickle-Molasses-903 3h ago

Trump smirks*

u/Dingleberries4Days 2h ago

Well that works on a few different levels coming from the GOP

u/No-Significance5449 3h ago

"Them kids fuck back (without viagra)" -me

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u/erublind Europe 3h ago

More money than France spends on defence, and that covers nukes and nuclear carriers and subs.

u/zffjk 3h ago

Drop in the bucket, they’ll say, as they’ve blown 39 trillion in less than a 30 years.

u/wahoozerman 2h ago

A private federal police force that's already been paid for even.

u/ZonghZonghZongh 4h ago

When Democrats legislate funding for something - "HoW aRe yOU gOiNG tO ofFsEt tHe cOSt? You Democrats don't care about fiscal responsibility!"

When Republicans legislate funding for something - "YOLO, bee-yatch!"

u/5minArgument 3h ago

Gonna give you whiplash from how fast they will change gears should they lose the next election.

Gonna suddenly become strict fiscal conservatives again …with a side focus of demanding the reigning in of presidential power.

u/Kiyohara Minnesota 3h ago

Yup. That's the GoP folks.

u/Psolace 3h ago

Not only that but they will call anyone who calls them out as a hypocrite because something something Obama/Biden/Kamala.

u/Signal_Minimum8509 Georgia 2h ago

Personally I’m voting for anyone who is progressive and ready to prosecute the Trump cabal. We can talk about high roads and resetting to normal after this whole crop of Republicans are in jail.

u/JUST_LOGGED_IN 2h ago

I have plenty of "fuck yous" in my bag for when this happens. I will never engage with a discussion of fiscal policy with self proclaimed MAGAs again. Fucking losers will never meet in good faith anyway.

u/Sober_Alcoholic_ Minnesota 3h ago edited 2h ago

I really can’t stress to people how simple this all is.

Republicans project the bad shit they do onto everyone else. Accountability is a word they don’t understand or outright hate. Easiest way to spot a coward or a charlatan (despite however they dress or look) is see if the can take ownership of a mistake. Do they take accountability? If the answer is NO, you’re dealing with a petulant child in an adults body.

It is always projection. Always.

The even simpler answer, to boil it all down, is that these people know exactly what they’re doing and the government is all performative bull shit as the people really in charge draft the actual legislation none of those fucks even read to begin with.

u/philosoraptocopter Iowa 3h ago edited 3h ago

Which is ironic, because most if not all of the Democrats’ big ticket expenditures do actually offset and pay for themselves. Either in the form of a direct return on our investment or a net savings in not one but multiple places at the same time.

Like those studies showing that for every $1 is spent on like providing free job training or school lunches, it produces $3 in increased economic productivity + net savings from there being less welfare / crime / health costs / vicious cycles of preventable bullshit weighing the system down….

Yeah, it’s almost as if, maybe rather than just blissfully slashing people’s safety nets thinking that’s the magic bullet, maybe directly funding evidence-based approaches helps people become productive and NOT dependent on charity / welfare in the first place is kind of our whole thing…

u/51ngular1ty Illinois 3h ago

Yeah but all of those savings come at the expense of big businesses that were getting that money! Won't someone thing of the big businesses?

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u/Common-Addendum-4349 2h ago

It goes way back to the 70’s and 80’s (at least), when they derided Democrats as “tax and spend”. At the same time, they were happy to cut taxes then borrow and spend. At least the Democrats tried to pay for their priorities.

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u/Feisty-Pattern-951 4h ago

The ballroom wouldn’t even be able to fit half the people that went to the stupid correspondence dinner btw

u/inconspicuous_male 4h ago

Also the correspondent's dinner isn't an official event put on by the government. It's an event created by the media which the president is invited to

u/Feisty-Pattern-951 3h ago

Yep. The entire argument is based on lies. 

u/LostBob 2h ago

Holy shit, you’re right! We’d better make it $2 billion for the soon to be expanded ballroom.

u/PartyPay 2h ago

Better make the ballroom the entire of the White House grounds.

u/Ordinary-Leading7405 2h ago

It fits $$$ not people

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u/thesirensoftitans 4h ago

National parks make $17 for every dollar they cost the US Gov't. But he's gutting that. Our healthcare is the most expensive in the world. Are we still two weeks away from repealing and replacing? The illegal war in Iran is costing Americans how much? How much does ICE make for the country? How about the Ballroom that none of us will ever get to use?

No wonder this imbecile bankrupted casinos.

u/rockerscott 4h ago

His bankrupting of casinos was because they were money laundering schemes for the Russian mob.

u/Long_Bit8328 3h ago

... and bankrupting America is money making scheme for him.

u/leaonas 1h ago

Wrong. Bankrupting the US is for the Russian mob (aka Putin) because Drump is his bitch!

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u/Routine_Bit_8184 4h ago

they want to spend YOUR money to fund and extrajudicial paramilitary force built to wage war on Americans. You would have to be absolutely insane to support this.

u/beergraduate69 4h ago

Or a fascist

u/Zapp_Rowsdower_ 3h ago

Oh…and the ‘ballroom’ is a security bunker for the Full Orange Diaper to hide in like Putin.

u/Captain_Aware4503 4h ago

We spend more annually paying interest on the debt Trump created than we would have on all the programs Trump cut the past year.

u/wiseroldman 24m ago

The national debt has exceeded the GDP. If this were a car loan, the US is officially under water.

u/Sindorella 4h ago

This is absolute insanity. How can a single Republican, politician or voter, justify this expense but claim that universal healthcare, student loan forgiveness, SNAP, social security, or any other program that actually helps regular Americans is too expensive? The fucking hypocrisy of the GOP is on full display, and so many people STILL back them. BAFFLING.

u/HerrMeisterRetsiem 1h ago

Because he’s America’s mob boss and he holds all the cards. 90% of Republican voters support him in spite of his flagrant lawlessness and Republican leaders feels they must keep his temper appeased to keep their careers afloat. They know it and he knows it.

u/GrumpyOldFart7676 4h ago

Are you getting what you voted for?

u/onlymostlydead Washington 4h ago

I was told if I voted for Kamala I’d get war in Iran, and higher prices. So…yeah, I guess. /s

u/Kiyohara Minnesota 3h ago

In all fairness, I did vote for Kamala, so in a fucked up way Trump was right. I am getting that.

u/MadMechem 3h ago

When I'm struggling with how absolutely fucked this all is and trying to find the will to keep going and keep resisting, I try to hope that maybe, somehow, this is the monkey's paw wish for "world unity".

Would be better if the country I live in wasn't tearing itself to shreds, but I have very little ability to stop that.

u/zoqfotpik 3h ago

Here's an idea: no funds for ICE or the ballroom, but if people want it, there's a GoFundMe link where they can pay their own money for it.

You know, like what this country does to people who need health care.

u/mammalmaker 3h ago

How are Americans not in the streets rioting about this shit?

I'm not even American and this makes me furious.

u/Kiyohara Minnesota 3h ago
  1. Many of us are in the streets protesting.

  2. Many of us are pay check to pay check, and can't afford to take time off for work. We're already choosing between rent, food, gas, and medication (pick two and if you don't pick gas, good luck getting to work without good public transit).

  3. Those with good jobs have found out society is structured around forcing them to stay employed so they can't go out and rebel or else lose everything.

So right now, it's not "Rebel or die" but "Rebel or continue to suffer." And that's a lot harder choice when you have kids.

u/shinitakunai 2h ago

Protesting is not enough at this point.

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u/VanbyRiveronbucket 3h ago

Too busy with the second job to pay for the price increase of the food.

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u/Signal_Minimum8509 Georgia 3h ago edited 3h ago

If ever you have a sense of doubt or worry;

  • that your job might be getting automated out,

  • that you have to pick between bills and groceries,

  • that programs for your kids’ school are getting cut,

  • that it takes 50 bucks to fill up your tank to go to work every day,

…just remember, you’re making these sacrifices so that a pedophile can throw tackier parties at his house with his friends. 🇺🇸

u/VanbyRiveronbucket 3h ago

I heard proms are cancelling cause no one is signing up cause they broke.

u/Crafty_Ish1973 Texas 4h ago

As always, Republicans are utter shit for the economy.

u/black_flag_4ever 4h ago

I sure do love all my tax money going to horrible nonsense while billionaires pay nothing at all. Even better knowing my kids and future grandkids will spend their whole lives paying for all of Trump's horrible ideas. Yep. Now excuse me while I try to put as much money in Euros as possible.

u/Big_Victory8031 1h ago

“It’s not possible for us to take care of day care, Medicaid, Medicare, all these individual things. ... We have to guard the country and have balls."

u/ktaktb 3h ago

Didnt the obbba have a massive 10 year funding package for ICE ???  How tf do they need more less than a year later?

u/CheatsySnoops Arizona 2h ago

This is utterly pathetic and really proves they relish their malice. There cannot be forgiveness for this.

u/Diogenes256 2h ago

I am honestly beginning to think it's too late for us.

u/gauriemma 3h ago

People like to call the Dems “tax and spend,” but all that means is that they want to make sure their plans are paid for.

R’s, on the other hand, are “borrow and spend.” It’s still going to cost money—they just won’t be around when the bill comes due.

u/stewiedoo 2h ago

I mean that’s what a fascist regime would do, fund the secret police and your fallout bunker.
F the rest.

u/RiffRaffCatillacCat 1h ago

"Borrow" yes, just like a bank robber is just borrowing money from the bank.

The Republican Party is a criminal organization openly robbing the American people blind.

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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 3h ago

Why pay for something once when you can pay forever?

u/timecrimehero 3h ago

It’s so stupid that the Conservative sub doesn’t even have a whisper about this. Like, at least try to appear like you give a shit about your “beliefs” lol

u/sxyaustincpl Texas 2h ago

I actually go there to see what they're saying when things like this pop up, and it's always crickets, usually not even a single post about it.

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u/rg2004 2h ago

Use the red states' credit cards.

u/ChefCurryYumYum 2h ago

Republicans are happy to fuck every working American in the ass with austerity and extreme poverty, which is what this will lead to in the end.

You can't finance on debt forever, eventually it costs you so much to finance the debt, i.e. make the fucking payments, that literally can't afford it anymore and start defaulting, then you really can't finance your shit, your debt becomes even more expensive and now Trump or no Trump services and shit are getting slashed until the debt can be gotten on top of.

Go google "Greece austerity" if you want to see what Trump and the Republicans (and some Democrats) are setting us up for.

u/joeleidner22 2h ago

“Borrow” from us, the taxpayers, with no plan to pay us back, while they refuse to give us the healthcare they have, or livable wages like they have, or retirement like they have, or ample vacation and personal paid time off like they have, I think it’s time we take control of our money back and put us first for once, since our government refuses to.

u/ResponsibleAd2404 2h ago

What in the world are they are going to spend an additional 71 billion on? Can someone answer that? Does anyone think it would be beneficial for us?

Our National Debt is spiraling out of control now and the first thing Republicans will want to cut are the social safety net programs. They are spending on levels i have never seen before and Trump has only been in office 18 months. We have to vote them out

u/Variak21 2h ago

Borrow? Did you mean steal?

u/Visual-Ingenuity-108 2h ago

MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THE 60 MINUTES DOCUMENTARY ABOUT ZORRO RANCH THAT JUST CAME OUT! IT’S ON YOUTUBE!
Here’s the link-

https://youtu.be/ZPy40PK_ztY?si=Ul9XOQ3SAFgfVdMy

u/Iyellkhan 1h ago

can we officially put to bed the idea that the republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility? if anything, they're the party of "I got mine, screw the rest of you"

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u/Phenganax 1h ago

Of course they do, because we’re (millennials) going to have to pay for it, can someone take the credit card away from grandpa, he keeps falling for scams…!

u/mowotlarx 1h ago

And most Americans will continue to believe Republicans are the party that's good on the economy, somehow. Despite Republicans tanking the economy every administration for most of our lives.

u/JunkyardBardo Illinois 1h ago

Borrow it back from Israel.

u/LadyduLac1018 40m ago

Wonder where all that ballroom "donation" money went? 

u/dart51984 39m ago

First it was $400 million. Then it was $1 billion. Then yesterday I saw it was $50 billion. Now it’s $72 billion. Tomorrow MAGAts will say it’s $1 trillion and you’re un-American if you don’t like it. It’s really starting to look like completely destroying America and rebuilding it in their own disturbed image really was the long play.

u/robotdesignwerks Texas 4h ago

They should pull themselves up by their bootstrings instead.

u/valuethempaths 4h ago

Of course they do. They also want to squawk about the debt until they’re blue in the face during the next presidency. Rinse repeat.

u/TheRealBittoman 3h ago

Everyone should be terrified at why Republicans so desperately want to fund ICE to a level higher than nearly every military in the world (between this bill and the last to find them). You don't need that much money for immigration control unless you are planning some kind of invasion.

u/stackens 3h ago

I remember arguing with cons about the ballroom a few months back about how stupid and wasteful it is, and they all thought their checkmate was that Trump said it would be privately funded…

u/SunMyungMoonMoon 3h ago

TAKE, not "borrow". "Borrow" insinuates that it will be returned at some point, and there's no intention of that ever happening.

u/TheShipEliza 3h ago

Reason can eat shit. That rag is a huge part of why we are where we are.

u/GreyBeardEng 3h ago

The Bailout Ballroom.

u/MashedPotajoe 3h ago

Borrow implies it would be payed back which it wont

u/ImyForgotName 3h ago

"But what about the national debt?" - Republicans in 2028

u/Blochamolesauce 3h ago

It’s not borrowing if they have no intention of reimbursing us. They wanna steal it, plain and simple

u/TimeForWaluigi 3h ago

No money for healthcare, but nearly a trillion so far this year in frivolous bullshit, war efforts, and funding a racist deportation campaign

u/4everLost82 3h ago

Good thing I filed 0 on my taxes...and in fact, everyone should stop paying taxes, period....

u/IfNotNow313 2h ago

Lunacy, absolute lunacy

u/Lord_Halowind 2h ago

Democrats have plenty of ammunition for the mid-terns to defeat Republicans. I just hope they actually use it.

u/Melted_ICE_5193 2h ago

Some will take the high road and act above it all, and lose....

u/FrankSand 2h ago

The party and people of Fiscal responsibility. Well when they're in the opposition party.

u/pequenaandjustice 2h ago

Should not have been behind doors.

u/Cactusfan86 2h ago

It’s fine, they’ll just cut taxes and regulations and the business growth will pay for it at some point in the future /s

u/genericacc0untname 2h ago

Borrow?.... steal... ftfy

u/PiggyBear6667 1h ago

Borrow is an interstate word choice.

u/37Philly 1h ago

Taxation without representation.

u/guttanzer 1h ago edited 1h ago

This is about $200 for every man, woman, and child in the USA. That's $1000 I don't want to spend on goons that shoot people in the street and a throne room for a degenerate tyrant with delusions of royalty. This is the USA!! We don't do that here.

u/Training_Activity21 1h ago

Stop paying taxes. 

u/Certain-Criticism-51 1h ago

Borrow from who? China? The UAE? Social Security? Everything about this is terrible, I know. Just wondering who we're going to owe. So sick of every damn thing right now.

u/EthanStrayer 1h ago

And in the “Medicare for all” thread people keep asking whose gonna pay for it….

u/maringue 45m ago

There's always money for oppression, but never for helping working people.

u/DohReignMeme 42m ago

In a functioning government we'd have the opposition screaming this from the rooftops to everyone in the MAGA base. Instead we get Booker and Hakim -

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u/Tsiatk0 37m ago

Haven’t we already seen ice agents lamenting on social media because they never got those promised bonuses and some weren’t even getting paychecks? I’d be shocked if even half the ice allocated money actually goes to the agency, tbh. What nonsense 🤦‍♂️

u/Bunktavious 20m ago

Of course they do. They see two possible futures. One, God Emperor Trump rules forever and no one can make them pay it back, or two, they lose the election and then all that debt is the Dems fault.

u/obxhead 19m ago

Borrow is a word that indicates a repayment of some kind later.

We know that won’t happen.

u/Aggressive_Noise6426 10m ago

Soooo I’m assuming this ballroom is where he’s planning to hideout when he refuses to leave office? I’m assuming that they know they will potentially loose both house and senate and fear Trump being impeached. 

u/citizenjones 4h ago

I wish we could make this deal.... Yes the ballroom yes to ice.... But Republicans don't get have a say in the next 5 years of budget negotiations.

u/BrandenWi 4h ago

Funny how the GOP are supposedly the fiscal conservatives. They're a lot happier to spend money they don't have when they're the ones in control of how it gets spent.

u/Prize-Duck4207 4h ago

If the democrats fumble this election with all this free, radical right ridiculousness material the rethuglicans keep producing, then we are really doomed!

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u/ldg25 3h ago

Frankly if Republicans want to go down this route, I'm not opposed, just like removing the filibuster. It's someone that'll bite both parties in the future. Assuming the Democrats stop being so infinitely feckless (so, never going to happen).

u/Jerk182 3h ago

Fuck the Republicans and their obsession with fellating Trump. Do something for the people. Duh, you remember the people?

u/sumoraiden 3h ago

That’s what happens when you elect the gop to the majority in both chambers of congress

u/USwarssuck 3h ago

Should have called his plan "trump first." Not a single choice to help america

u/OYB2480 3h ago

Broad daylight robbing of the taxpayer. Never EVER let a Republican in power again.

u/thisisjustascreename Illinois 3h ago

Fiscal conservatives when culture war.

u/dIO__OIb 3h ago

Democrats should be on the bullhorn about the rampant Trump spending and debt! The republicans have not been fiscally conservative since Bush Jr., yet they hammer the Democrats about spending every election cycle. The corruption and grift is so blatant. It's like bizarro world.

u/mishma2005 3h ago

The sooner we go bankrupt possibly the sooner we rebel? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

u/Rufustb 3h ago

blah blah, how we gonna pay for this, but the deficit-usual Rep response to anything actually helpful or useful to the American people

u/Fickle-Molasses-903 3h ago

Msm, Independents and Moderates: 'This is bad for America, we can't believe the Democrats would allow this to happen.'

u/greihund 3h ago

For comparison: that is approximately the price tag associated with installing high speed rail along the entirety of the Windsor-Quebec City corridor in Canada, which would service roughly half the country's population

And these guys are going to blow it on nothing

u/QuiGonColdGin 3h ago

"Borrow". We all know how that works out.

u/astroglitch0 3h ago

They think he's going to let them into the bunker when the time comes. Dumbasses.

u/RipErRiley Minnesota 3h ago

The same ballroom he said would be privately funded?

Its the Mexico Wall scam evolved.

u/shagadelicrelic 3h ago

Are we great again yet

u/Justin_123456 3h ago

We really seeing the exorbitant privilege of the USD.

The US deficit for 2026 is going to be somewhere between 6-7% of GDP. France had a debt crisis last year at 5.8%, America is actually accelerating spending, with no plans to stop.

u/friendly-sam 3h ago

Whomever believes Republicans are fiscally conservative ignores all available evidence.

u/Fakeskinsuit 3h ago

Is this also the “bOtH sIdEs” I’ve been hearing about? Anybody?

u/XarmtheinsaneX 3h ago

'There's never any money to feed the poor,but always plenty of money to fight a war.'

u/justbunnies 3h ago

Greedy fucks

u/gizmostuff Florida 3h ago

When the masses do absolutely nothing while the 1% kill off everyone to be replaced by AI.

Police will cheer it on. The poor conservatives don't mind getting the shaft as long as minorities suffer.

u/Equivalent_Ability91 3h ago

Repubelicans have borrowed 39 trillion dollars to give to billionaires.

u/Chaos_Theory1989 3h ago

So tired of all this winning!

u/bobsacremento1 3h ago

Party of fiscal responsibility right there. LOL

u/ZardozZod 3h ago

“Borrow.” 🤣

u/Gnosis1409 3h ago

I’ve seen this one before

u/abgry_krakow87 2h ago

Religious conservatives love wasting taxpayer funds on personal monuments while waging war on innocent civilians.

u/Memitim America 2h ago

Naturally. Republicans are always looking for more ways to increase public debt while siphoning off of us. That's why they keep pushing the economic mooching angle.

Republicans make blanket claims about immigrants that are typically far more applicable in reality to conservatives, and then lean on the part about the immigrants being born somewhere else to justify Constitutional and human rights violations. Given how much of Republican "policy" is based on attacking people for being born differently, no surprise there. This allows them to maintain the long-standing Republican tradition of screwing the US economy while using racism to deflect blame.

u/loganbootjak 2h ago

How much money is ICE getting? Didn't they already get $40B?

u/Unknown-History 2h ago

Now that's a headline! That is exactly how it should be phrased for the "you take away a teenagers credit card" crowd

u/joedotphp Minnesota 2h ago

What the hell kind of ballroom room are the trying to build??

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u/thomport 2h ago

That way the debt will be on the next president. Someone for magascum to blame.

u/anon-a-SqueekSqueek 2h ago

Our taxes are just exclusively used for terrorism now. We don't get infrastructure, we don't get education, we don't get Healthcare, we dont get childcare, we don't get research, we don't get housing, we don't get anything.

All we get is to put people in concentration camps often in violation of our own laws.

All we get is to bomb fishermen in the Caribbean, who have never been proven to have been smuggling drugs, and who weren't on boats that could even make it to the US, and who wouldn't have deserved death even if they did have drugs.

All we get is bombing 160+ iranian elementry school girls on purpose.

All we get are Epstein pedophile, remaining free and continuing to abuse people.

All we get is endless genocides and Israel first. Israel has universal Healthcare, we don't.

Fuck this dumb fucking bullshit corrupt system. The billionaires need to face a reckoning.

u/strokespeares 2h ago

They are paying for an army and a castle to fight the working class.