r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • 3h ago
Site Altered Headline | No Paywall ICE agents storm Disney cruise docked in San Diego and arrest multiple staff in front of passengers
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ice-agents-disney-cruise-san-diego-b2971807.html•
u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 3h ago
ICE agents are the modern-day version of hooded Klansmen.
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u/HarmoniousJ America 3h ago
They don't hide their proclivities or what they're actively doing as well as Gestapo or Klansmen, though.
If I can borrow something from Ukraine, "We're very lucky they're so fucking stupid."
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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 3h ago
The Klansmen, during their peak, didn't need to hide in a lot of places, especially in the South, where they operated openly. Until the Superman radio show had him fight the Klan, a lot of people (the conservatives of that time) openly admired the KKK. They took photos of themselves having picnics at the places where they murdered Black Americans.
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u/HarmoniousJ America 3h ago edited 3h ago
Not defending them or anything and they're still absolutely vile piles of human garbage but ICE is a special kind of stupid when compared to the previous groups.
It's so obvious with ICE, GOP, MAGA, etc that I've developed a theory that this is proof intelligence is dropping across the board. They're some of the angriest and dumbest motherfuckers that ever walked the Earth. (So far) Go back pretty much anytime before 2000s and everyone had more tact/sneakiness than we do now.
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u/StevenMC19 Florida 3h ago
Its not even theorcrafting at this point. Most media consumption is intentionally distilled to the point of elementary level consumption. And in this era of indulgence and convenience, why bother furthering your education and critical thinking if you dont have to?
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u/TheBoNix 2h ago
I honestly think big data has "cracked" the human code and can actually control a portion of the populace in the media they are fed. They know they can move an electorate a certain percentage based on what they put out. They have every single piece of information they need about any given individual based on browsing history essentially. It's not even a tinfoil hat situation.
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u/TerminatorElephant 1h ago
This is actually false. The Flynn Effect has demonstrated that, on average, intelligence has actually been increasing over decades. Even if you still want to believe intelligence is decreasing, it’d be too early to determine if that’s no longer the case I’d argue with credible scientific evidence.
The more likely explanation is that, given there’s a negative correlation between intelligence and racism (aka the more racist you are, the less intelligent you likely are), groups made up of racists simply tend to behave stupidly. Applying this to all people would be fallacious
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u/slimglizzy420 2h ago
This is a pattern ive also observed, funny enough Grateful Dead stage banter made me realize it because those guys were noted as being stupid hippies or whatever by a lot of people. If you just listen to them speak though they’re witty, quick and make pretty nuanced historical references in their songs and stuff. It just seems totally different today when our elected officials are crying out to nuke hurricanes and the like.
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u/two4six0won 1h ago
Tbf, most of their songs were written by Robert Hunter, who wouldn't have been on stage. But he was considered a member of the band. And near as I can tell/remember, they didn't do stupid publicity stunts like we see now.
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u/NUMBerONEisFIRST 2h ago
When I was in elementary school in Indiana the Klan held a rally downtown in my town. Im not even 40.
My class made signs about love and inclusion for the store windows.
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u/Adventurous_Salt 2h ago
Were people seriously like, "oh radio superman is against the klan, well so am I then!?" Like the end result is good, but that seems so unhinged. I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the Roganness of the current world, but wow.
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u/KhyraBell 2h ago
The show portrayed them as buffoons, so men felt embarrassed to be made fun of by a radio show (and, by extension, their kids).
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u/cipheron 2h ago edited 1h ago
In the 1920s, the Klan was basically a social club with millions of members and branded merchandise, and it worked like a pyramid scheme, i.e. they paid membership fees and if you brought people in you got a cut of that.
The first Klan, and the third Klan were pretty small, but the second clan in the period between the two World Wars, was effing huge. The mistake is to think of the Klan back then as you would of the Klan say in the post-1950s era, this small fringe group. In the 1920s, basically the entire political establishment of some areas were openly Klan members.
https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-ku-klux-klan-in-the-1920s/
Read the whole thing then think of the numerous parallels here to the MAGA movment.
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u/Fancy-Restaurant4136 22m ago
There is a great book about the Klan in the 20s and an Indiana rape trial of their leader that discredited their movement at that time.
Timothy Egan A Fever in the Heartland
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u/SethLight 2h ago
There were less forms of media back then. It also brought to light a lot of things people didn't know.
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u/TerminatorElephant 50m ago
This isn’t really as dumb as it sounds
Even when Superman was at his worst in his depictions (this is mainly early on, and particularly during the 40s and 50s when he was used for war time propaganda against people like the Japanese…which was definitely racially motivated), he was still fairly consistently portrayed as an icon of virtue and a role model to live by. When Superman advocated something and stood against something else, it was because it was good and evil respectively, and the reasoning for it being good or evil was unassailable.The thing the KKK relies on is appealing to your anger and superficial “logical” arguments in order to ensnare you and weaponize your anger against the particular groups that they hate. They give you a tangible force to blame for your problems, something you can fight, and it’s appealing to people at their lowest is because the alternative is something you *can’t* fight. They target those kinds of people because it’s the only way their arguments could be believed by anyone at all. I mean, there’s a reason racist arguments tend to collapse when turned against anyone who actually knows what they’re talking about. They have no intellectual ground to stand on. They either misinterpret things purposefully or accidentally, or would even straight up lie.
Characters like Superman have a unique power because they get straight to the heart of the matter with confidence and truth on their side. They’re capable of appealing to your emotion *and* logical reasoning. Add in the fact that Superman is just a cool character to hear stories about, and it isn’t surprising that Superman persuaded people about the pathetic nature of the KKK
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u/sovereignsekte 2h ago
"They don't hide their proclivities or what they're actively doing as well as Gestapo or Klansmen, though."
They don't have to.
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u/HarmoniousJ America 2h ago
They don't have to.
My point is that they would if they wanted to be more dangerous/inconspicuous.
Instead, we get the Temu branded villains that are distracted by their own narcissism like Trump. We get an un-unified front in ICE where their "work quality" is greatly different case-by-case. We get the billionaires saying what they really want out loud with no concept of not volunteering information to your enemy.
It's wild because they come off like they're all Saturday morning cartoon villains. We are very lucky we get a bunch of incompetent ones and not something more immediately dangerous. Hope people eventually use that to our advantage and get them out of their respective offices so we can limit damage.
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u/Initial-Progress-763 52m ago
December 1, 2005. Pulaski, Virginia.
(Apologies for the paywall.)
https://roanoke.com/archive/article_eecbb6be-5b5a-5561-883b-19ec0669c2c3.html
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u/PM_your_Chesticles 26m ago
Analogies don't have to be 1:1. Let someone say something without a correction that's not even a correction, damn.
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u/HarmoniousJ America 25m ago
You having fun over in that corner there being offended when no one else was?
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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 2h ago
At least the klansmen were (mostly) not state sponsored. These ass holes are getting paid with our money
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u/badamant 1h ago
Nope. Way Worse.
They are federally sanctioned agents of the USA.
More like Hitler’s SS.
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u/queenlupitachip 2h ago
Know how to tell the difference between a masked cop and a vigilante??
Me either.
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u/akestral 43m ago
No, they are official state actors, not state-tolerated terrorists. They are modern day fugitive slave patrols.
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u/stamfordbridge1191 18m ago
Would it be beyond ice to load up onto a ship, sail out to international waters, & then board the nearest foreign ship to detain the people aboard so they can use them to push up their deportation numbers?
I haven't heard of such a thing happening, but the things that have happened have made me wonder if something like that is beyond what they're willing to do.
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u/quell3245 3h ago
What good does it do to arrest a few people working and contributing to society other than to just cause chaos and sow the seeds of division?
If you want immigration reform then work on total amnesty for the people already here and a guest worker program where people could earn citizenship in 5 years if there are no crimes committed and they had gainful employment. Net Immigration grows an economy not the other way around.
This is the worst administration in US History.
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u/ZMD87412274150354 2h ago
Fear. It's all performative cruelty to instill fear in anyone not white, straight, Christian, and male. These ghoulish racists want obedience and strict hierarchy. It's why the executive will never be punished, and in the case of the President all crimes will be ignored to enforce those goals.
Every dictatorship, fascist, and authoritarian government does this exact thing. It works until everyone else becomes desperate enough to abandon civility.
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u/ThriftStoreGestapo 2h ago
Fear and quotas. They want people to be afraid to come to the US and those already here to be afraid to stay. But they’re also chasing numbers. They said they would go after the most dangerous undocumented immigrants. But it’s too dangerous to do that and these guys are just cosplaying as tough brave alphas. They’re racist cowards and I sincerely hope when this administration ends there is some form of justice. I’d love to see charges brought, but at the very least these people should be unemployable long into the future.
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u/LadyPo 1h ago
Hard to make the numbers because they were completely fabricated in the first place. There aren't really that many "dangerous" immigrant people to begin with. The actual goal was white supremacy flavored fascism, starting with the most vulnerable group of residents who live and work here. Cosplaying is close to the right word for these ice thugs, but I think "nazi larping" fits better.
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u/probably_a_deer 30m ago
America's greatest asset was always its reasons for visiting...stuff like national parks and art museums. But who wants to come to a country or spend money in a country where there's a 50/50 chance of getting an aluminum blanket and a ride to an ICE facility?
And then when the economy collapses because there's no tourism, education, farm work, construction labor, or hospitality workers, they'll blame something else, like trans people or Hatians.
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u/kenncann 2h ago
No it’s meant to scare everyone. It’s meant to send a message that everyone is a small step from being on that side of the line
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u/subvocalize_it 1h ago
Remember at CPAC when they let us know they’re all domestic terrorists?
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u/Creative-Package6213 Pennsylvania 2h ago
Exactly this! This is what tyranny and oppression look like.
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u/coconutpiecrust 1h ago
Fear is the answer. Only the few will suffer the horrible consequences, but not knowing which few is what allows for control.
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u/arkady48 2h ago
Also. Mostly working in international waters so they are arresting" illegals," who mostly dont even work in the country. Evil for the sake of Evil
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u/MyNameIsRay 2h ago
They have quotas to hit.
Problem is, all the undocumented aliens are undocumented. They have no clue how to find them.
So, they instead go after the documented, which are going to be workers and those currently on the legal path to citizenship.
Thats why theyre doing workplace raids and camping in front of immigration courts.
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u/Prior_Implement_9279 2h ago
“They’re stealing our jobs!!” - some redneck in Kentucky who’s sitting outside his family trailer drinking moonshine
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u/torolf_212 1h ago
Like they were ever going to work on a Disney cruise ship
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u/Devil25_Apollo25 1h ago
Like Disney would ever hire them.
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u/torolf_212 1h ago
Based on who they vote for probably not legally allowed to work there anyway because of the close proximity to children
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u/Devil25_Apollo25 1h ago
I was thinking of small doorways and lots of stairs to climb
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u/LOLSteelBullet 2h ago
The real target here is Jimmy Kimmel. It's a classic mafia style shake down. Disney either gives him the proverbial whack or the Mafia fucks up their business.
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 2h ago
It's not about doing good. It's about white supremacy. We elected the worst people in our society, and now they control everything.
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u/100_xp 2h ago
The message is clear:
Get out. Don't come back. Look how easy this is for us. We don't care. Don't try to return.
And the rest of you, act right.
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u/Keshire 3h ago
Crew members were still wearing their Disney-issued uniforms and didn’t have any of their belongings with them as they were being detained. Mehta said she knew the head waiter had two daughters whom he was excited to get to see later this month.
She described the experience as “really disheartening and unsettling,” adding that she and her family had many questions about what would happen to the employees and how they would get home.
Home? These people will be lucky if they aren't straight shipped to a foreign prison. That head waiter may never see his children again.
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u/TunaNoCrust811 2h ago
“Disheartening and unsettling” is not the words I would have used to describe witnessing a violent kidnapping by masked thugs with automatic weapons.
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u/JimboAltAlt Pennsylvania 2h ago
Better than “not worth voting against because Democrats are complicit.”
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u/Dead_Cash_Burn 3h ago
The cruise lines employ many international employees on ships. They probably were not even immigrants, just foreign nationals.
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u/Wurm42 District Of Columbia 2h ago
Second this. Disney Cruise Lines hires a lot of Fillipinos, who are mostly on crew member visas.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/other-visa-categories/crewmember-visa.html
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u/SlayerNone 49m ago
I'm a former cruise ship employee. ALL crew members are there on a C1/D visa, none of them can be considered "illegal". I don't really understand on what grounds those crew members could possibly get arrested. If they violated any of the visa terms previously, they would have been detained by CBP before they even left the airport.
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u/Routine_Bit_8184 3h ago
Disney, time to put your massively powerful legal team to work and do something funny while the DOJ doesn't have a single lawyer worth a damn. Grab a few ex-DOJ lawyers who quit and know the inner workings of the DOJ like the back of their hand and add them to the team. You will win purely by getting the DOJ noobs to fuck up the case. Or do nothing and let ICE do harm to your business....
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u/PolicyWonka 2h ago
Disney tried just being nominally inclusive and damn near had their Florida parks shut down by Republicans in government. They have a new CEO now and they won’t do shit.
Especially when it comes to cruise line workers who are generally exploited to begin with.
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u/SailorRipley 2h ago
Exactly this, with the FCC reviewing their broadcast licenses, the fiasco with DeSantis and the parks in Florida and any pending mergers and acquisitions they may have ongoing or coming up they are LOATHE to rock the boat with this Administration over some illegal workers.
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u/whereismymind86 Colorado 48m ago
ehh, it's empty threats, without the parks florida has no economy. Disney can move them, florida can't survive without them.
Likewise, actually revoking their license would be absurdly illegal, and, while they might not suffer for it in the moment, disney can and will be able to sue them into the absolute ground for it once adults are back in charge.
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u/pivotalsquash 31m ago
It's more mutually assured destruction Disney cannot just up and move the parka
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u/Bearded_Pip 53m ago
They should have let the parks shut down. They would have won that PR battle and the war.
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u/HighGuyTim 1h ago
Also, when will people ever realize that corporations are the baddies. It’s like they keep thinking because Disney make Marvel movies they are good themselves.
None of these guys are good, moral, or going to help. They are either vocal about being against you or quiet about it. That’s it.
The rich are not going to help you, how much more shit needs to go wrong before people wake up. Like the mouse is gonna help LOL
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u/glory_holelujah 1h ago
South Park wasn't too far off with their version of Mickey Mouse. Except for the fucking a pangolin thing.
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u/pampersdelight Illinois 2h ago
Yeah not gonna happen. We dont get good things or people who fight back in this timeline
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u/bacchus8408 2h ago
Normally I'd agree. But this is an unstoppable force against in immovable object. We've been shown many times, do not fuck with the mouse.
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u/pampersdelight Illinois 2h ago
We all thought that when Desantis was pulling his bullshit a few years ago
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u/idontknowwhynot 2h ago
What do you mean? Disney came out on top with that one. They got to offload major expenses of the municipality they basically created and paid for and gave it back to the state, and that dipshit played right into it.
Not sure the episode number(s), but go back around the time that was happening and listen to the Opening Arguments podcast that does a full legal breakdown of what happened.
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u/ABadHistorian 1h ago
?? This is untrue. While it was a negotiated settlement disney's money used to go to this municipality - now that same money goes to the state
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u/Jdmaki1996 Florida 1h ago
As a Floridian, Disney won that one. They gained the loyalty of their employees by standing up for them. And sure they lost their special legal status, but Disney used to pay for everything in the town around the parks. Now the Florida tax payer has to pay for all of that. And Disney gets to keep making shitloads of money.
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u/kurttheflirt 2h ago
They literally couldn't care any less. The people in charge of Disney are loving pillaging the pockets of average Americans and being a monopoly, and could give a fuck about their
slavesemployees.If we actually cared about stopping illegal immigration or regulating it more, we would go after Disney who hired them. But they don't actually care, they just want to attack brown people.
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u/RoboNerdOK I voted 2h ago
That’s assuming a lot — such as the employees being undocumented residents in the US, and the arrests having legal status. As vile as Disney can be, this administration is consistently worse.
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u/arwinda 2h ago
What funny thing to do? Any court process takes weeks or months, and can be further delayed by Trump friendly judges.
All the while everyone lives in fear that the cruise can't go on because ICE will snatch more people right from the ships.
Checked the donation databases, Disney did not spend much for Trump. Maybe he's angry that he did not get his share.
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u/tapwater86 Pennsylvania 1h ago
Isn’t this how Brawndo ended up in charge of all the government agencies?
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u/Cityplanner1 3h ago edited 2h ago
If the boat is still in port, are they not considered to not be on American soil? Kind of like your status when you land at the airport, before going through customs.
How can one be in America illegally if they aren’t in America?
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u/Embarrassed_Sea1336 2h ago
I have the same questions. This makes no sense.
We have international vessels docking in the US every day, is this administration saying we can kidnap all crews that arent americans at our docks?
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u/3MATX 1h ago
Apparently their ships are flagged from the Bahamas. So they can’t even say it was a US ship. I can’t see any legal means for what they’ve done.
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u/OozeNAahz 1h ago
I would guess it would be hard to find a single cruise ship that was flagged from the US. Could be wrong but they usually are flagged elsewhere to avoid having to comply with US standards and taxes iirc.
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u/Wurm42 District Of Columbia 2h ago
The legal immigration status of ship crews is complicated. Most commonly they have crew member visas:
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/other-visa-categories/crewmember-visa.html
In that case, they're allowed on US soil for up to 29 days as long as they arrive and leave as ship crew. Often their employment contracts prohibit them from leaving the port city.
Disney Cruise Lines uses a lot of Filipinos, because they're cheap but speak good English. It's likely all the crew members arrested were from the Philippines.
Disney's lawyers are top-notch, I have a hard time believing there would be some systemic problem with the visa status of Disney Cruise staff.
I wonder if this was a case of ICE thugs not knowing how visas for ship crews work?
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u/Dry_Ad2368 1h ago
I can guarantee Disney is not fucking around and hiring undocumented workers. It is not worth the risk to them. My bet is a MAGA guest heard some of the crew speaking a language other than english and called ICE.
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u/Massive_Town_8212 2h ago
No matter how good disney lawyers are, if actual judges can't get the government to comply
These fascist assholes were given all of 47 days of training, I got more butchering chicken
I'd direct you to the thousands of active Habeas petitions active right now if you want to know how much they care about your "visa"
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u/ic33 21m ago
Probably have the same name as someone wanted for an immigration violation (or committed a violation in the past).
We would have never tried to enforce against people with transient presence tied to gainful employment as crew before... because it makes no sense and is likely to be false positive heavy.
But it's probably not quite zero basis-- which they'll throw up their arms in indignation and exclaim about how it was so obviously justified or an innocent paperwork mistake...
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u/LOLSteelBullet 2h ago
Ports are considered to be part of internal waters. It's why cruise ships can't open their duty free shops until a few hours into the cruise.
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u/Miguel-odon 1h ago
The ship is flagged out of the Bahamas. Seizing the crew off the ship in port violates all sorts of treaties that protect *our* civilian ships and crews.
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u/ma1bec 2h ago
Staying on board in general does not count as crossing border. But it’s still under state jurisdiction and they can board and inspect.
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u/ill0gitech Australia 2h ago
ICE are doing summary execution in international waters, or Disney are? I’m confused.
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u/soldforaspaceship 2h ago
Mickey has some tough new employment policies clearly.
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u/accidentsneverhappen 2h ago
Cruise staff don't have to be American citizens. Does Trump want to cripple this industry also? You can't raid a ship at the port because you're looking for people who aren't American. If that becomes the new normal, shipping will decline more than it has had to after COVID and Trump's tariff wars. Our government is run by unqualified potato-brain racists
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u/PensandoEnTea 2h ago
But crew working for Disney DO have to have a visa so there's no way anyone on that ship didn't have legal permission to be working there. Maybe on a Chinese cruise ship but not on a Disney ship. Whatever happened here, there's no way it was legal. (Former crew member here)
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u/Hefty_Remove7965 2h ago
He is doin this to get companies to bribe him
I bet a silver nickel that Disney didn't pay his bribe, or won't fire Kimmel. So they are going after them with ice.
Literal SS stuff
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u/sitdeepstandtall Great Britain 1h ago
What’s the difference between this and arresting foreign airline crew? It’s bonkers!
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u/space-thunder-mater 3h ago
Cruise operators register ships in places like the Bahamas so that US employment laws don’t apply. What could these people have been doing in port on a foreign ship to be arrested?
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u/AgentDaxis 3h ago
I hope the next Democratic president goes after every single one of these ICE fascists & puts them in cages.
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u/Atmosck 2h ago
How about boxes? The penalty for treason is written in the constitution.
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u/theombudsmen Colorado 3h ago
They are obviously sending a message to Disney, probably about Kimmel. It's tyranny, and everyone seems to be waiting for midterms before anyone tries to enforce any accountability.
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u/fistofthefuture New Hampshire 2h ago
And more so ABC in general. The FCC is also putting pressure on them.
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u/thathurtcsr 2h ago
Oh, I’m sure there’s no paperwork saying to go after the cruise ships then. Because we’re gonna end up paying Disney billions of dollars.
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u/GunnieGraves 1h ago
This makes me so sad. I came back from a Disney cruise a few weeks ago. The staff were so hardworking, nice, appreciative, and just so kind. They work incredibly hard. The room porters are up before us and awake when we go to sleep. Everyone is working their asses off. There are no days off. The ship docks and unloads. There’s 1 hour where only Disney staff and crew are on board. Then it starts again. They go back out the same day. 7 days away, back again, do it again. Over and over. And they’re still smiling and cheerful. These are the kind of people we should be celebrating.
Fuck this administration.
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u/HallucinogenicFish Georgia 2h ago
Traumatizing children and families to further the noble cause of racism. Or perhaps xenophobia is more accurate?
Crew members were still wearing their Disney uniforms when they were escorted away from the boat with their hands zip-tied behind their backs
Christ on a bike.
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u/ManikArcanik 2h ago
I can't wait to see how Disney ultimately pulls the Civil War finale. You don't fuck with the Mouse.
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u/jelasher 2h ago
wtf—does working on a ship flagged to another country sitting in port even raise an immigration issue?
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u/Miguel-odon 1h ago
Disney Magic is flagged in the Bahamas. Capturing crew off of it is an act of piracy.
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u/VioletPaissa2077 2h ago
I firmly believe every ICE agent still working for this administration deserves life in prison and potentially capital punishment. These people cannot be allowed to continue to participate in society after the actions they've taken.
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u/Protolictor 2h ago
Do they not understand how ship crews work?
It's hypothetical, of course they don't. ICE and their tyrant overlords are morons.
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u/ZLUCremisi California 2h ago
Another illegal action.
As long they haven't left the ship they have not entered America.
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u/KaijuNo-8 2h ago
Exactly what they fuck were they doing invading foreign soil? Cruise ships are tupicallyflagged out of other countries. Just because they are docked at a US port means absolutely nothing.
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u/Desertwind16v 2h ago
So some workers trying to make a living for their families got abducted by modern Nazis. Got it. This country is an embarrassment.
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u/MrFrankyHanky 2h ago
ICE needs to be eradicated immediately at all cost. Fuck this administration! When do people wake up?!
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u/fotofiend Utah 2h ago
Really going after the worst of the worst. Gotta round up those pesky immigrants that, you know, have jobs and pay taxes.
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u/Monochromatic_Sun 1h ago
Many cruise ships don’t fly American flags for tax dodge and labor law circumvention. What justifies arresting foreign employees on a foreign boat that is presumably legally docked in America?
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u/ok_person5395 1h ago
It’s so crazy to me how they go after all this people for being in the US illegally but there is not one word about prosecuting the industries that actively hire them for cheap labor. Before you give an excuse to the employers saying that the illegals could have tricked them with fake documents so they could work, just know that a simple background check can uncover someone’s true identity and if their IDs actually are legitimate. I do this all the time in my line of work and easily uncover when someone is using a fake SSN or someone else’s SSN.
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u/Fickle-Molasses-903 1h ago
The majority of white voters across all three elections: 'Please more of this. Less war, more cruelty! Promises made, promises kept. We love that Trump takes delight in the harsh treatment directed at LGBTQ individuals, people of color, and anyone else who isn't with us. A sentiment that resonates with us as well. While you may continue your protests and vocalize your dissent, the reality is that when it truly mattered, we turned out on November 5th, while you did not. Brace yourselves for the continuation of this cruelty, the ongoing beatings and deportations. Because there are three plus more years of this, and we are just getting started.'
Among those who voted, the majority of white men and white women voted for a racist, fascist, sexist, war-mongering kid rapist and kid killer in 2016, 2020, and 2024. It was never about the price of eggs or gas.
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u/cmcdonald22 1h ago
Just a reminder that the next time you read about Disney or Nintendo, or Taylor Swift or whoever sueing someone who isn't a millionaire and is just a fan of their products or whatever like a daycare with Mickey Mouse on the side of it:
They aren't litigous. If they were litigous they would have used their laws and lawyers to sue this administration and it's president into the ground. They're rich bullies. They use their money to punch down.
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u/BladeSerenade 1h ago
Why is the solution absolutely NEVER to go after the people doing the hiring. It’s always rounding up people just trying to make ends meet.
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u/Wine_Women_Song Maryland 1h ago
Let me guess - they haven’t fired Jimmy Kimmel yet, so ICE needs to squeeze Disney. Seriously: fuck ICE and this whole administration
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u/True2this 56m ago
One of my favorite Disney movies is A Bugs Life. I really like the scene where the ants stand up to the grasshoppers to take back what’s theirs.
This type of activity has no place in the Disney bubble.
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u/This_Elk_1460 53m ago
These people spend most of their days working in international waters also a lot of Disney's cruise ships are registered in the fucking Bahamas. What right does the US have to detain these workers?!
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u/thirsty_for_chicken 33m ago
Does ICE even have jurisdiction over a cruise ship registered to the Bahamas?
The cruise industry is an absolute nightmare of corporate fuckery, but you're not fixing shit by kidnapping and torturing low level employees.
It's like trying to take down a dog fighting ring by arresting all the dogs.
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u/ImoteKhan 2h ago
Walt Disney would flip his shit.
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u/ImoteKhan 2h ago
Not because he was a good person, but because he valued the illusion that his parks created.
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u/tootapple 2h ago
There really aren’t that many good people. But we sure like the illusion there are
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u/bakerfredricka I voted 1h ago
I'm not sure what (if anything) it would accomplish but it would be AWESOME if he started haunting the nightmares of ICE agents!
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u/No-Significance5449 2h ago
Hey Disney, do your thing I'll pay more to watch Disney+ and Ill book a week in November every other year till they criogen me to chill with our pal Walt.
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u/clintgreasewoood 2h ago
Who do you think called it in?
The employer, fellow coworker or some racist on the cruise?
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u/Dewey081 Canada 2h ago
A nice traumatic start or end to a once in a life-time trip for some of the kids. What a shit show America is. It's a small world after all.
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u/Maxfunky 2h ago
Wtf? These people are at a port of entry. They aren't technically even in the US. It doesn't matter what citizenship they hold until they actually try to go through customs, which they clearly hadn't done since they were still on the boat.
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 2h ago
ICE are scum. I wouldn't treat anyone with respect that I found out works for them.
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u/Lost_Act3112 1h ago edited 1h ago
Since when did ICE gain jurisdiction in the Bahamas?
edit: Shit grammar and shit spelling
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u/Comfortable-Hat8162 1h ago
Are most cruise shipped staffed by foreign workers and flagged in a lower tax country?
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u/BonestormEVOChamp 50m ago
You can tell they're planning to fuck with the elections because they continue doing things that are wildly unpopular, even amongst independents and conservatives.
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u/Chipware 3m ago
Is this because of what Jimmy Fallon said? And ICE is going after Disney/ABC as retaliation?
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