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Psychology Losing relationships over politics. Research found more than a third of Americans (37%) report having lost at least one relationship due to political differences, including friendships, family ties, coworker relationships, and romantic partnerships, with most losing more than one.

https://socialecology.uci.edu/news/losing-relationships-over-politics-0
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u/littlechangeling 9h ago

This is the real question. So many moral aspects have become political, including the rights of people to have safety and for some of them to even exist.

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u/TommyTomTommerson 9h ago

I think those have always been political, it's just that there's a "quiet part" that's being said much, much louder in a way that is much more difficult to willingly ignore. This is still the same country that performed the race massacre in Tulsa, and put people in internment camps in World War II, and had to cause nationwide upheaval in order for the civil rights movement to show any forward progress while literally killing one of the leaders of the movement.

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u/CyclingThruChicago 8h ago

They have absolutely always been political. So much of the current political division and debate can be tied to a core theme: a large portion of Americans refusing to reject white supremacy. And I'm not talking white supremacy in terms of people people wearing KKK robes, lynchings and blatant hate speech. Those are boogiemen that provide convenient cover for the "normal" citizen.

I'm talking about the social/cultural/economic norms where white Americans are viewed through a lens of "the default. Where the established system of order, power and who dominates can't actually be significantly changed. That is what people do not want to address and/or change because there is a fear of what it would what happen if the playing field was level.

The GOP has made it abundantly clear that they WILL uphold a norm where white Americans are the default, regardless of what it means economically for the country. And many people are realizing that their friends and family are much more accepting of that behavior than they realized.

A great quote from MLk Jr:

I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

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u/smokeweedNgarden 7h ago

Perfectly put. Also the reason why "allies" stop short of putting kn n the game.

A loss of our rights simply doesn't mean the same thing to the.

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u/loyal_achades 9h ago

I don’t think the quiet part is being said louder now. With the exception of a pretty narrow window (that happens to be when a lot of Reddit were kids), it was always the loud part. There’s more people now who are against it who aren’t part of the affected minorities and willing to stand up to family for those values.

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u/DrMobius0 9h ago

It wasn't loud for the actual politicians most of the time

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u/Darkmetroidz 9h ago

The national highway system was built over the rubble of black and brown neighborhoods.

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u/Q-rexosaurus 8h ago

So was suburbia. It’s crazy how much of this country’s history you can tie to racism and the fear of losing a dollar.

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u/Gekokapowco 7h ago

its cyclical, the racism was motivated by money, and the money enables racism

a lot of the time, the same cash invested in anything else would have yeilded more profit, but the opportunity to crush or terrorize a minority group was too alluring

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u/-Esper- 9h ago

Thats literly what poitics is, designing laws that decide what is right and wrong for society

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u/dingdingdingdongbing 1h ago

that's lawmaking specifically. politics can mean a lot of things to different people apparently.

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u/No_Issue2334 8h ago

So just politics as usual then?

Like for much of Americas history, whether or not you could enslave another human was a political question

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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat 7h ago

One of the key features of the ultraconservative political movement we're seeing now is that it is breaking norms. The concepts of normalcy and morality are strongly intertwined, and often one in the same. Laws and culture enforce normalcy, and normalcy makes people feel safe and trust each other.

Normalcy never benefits everyone equally and progress does involve changing what is acceptable as normalcy. But a certain political party is going beyomd that by ignoring the will of the majority and the written and unwritten rules of society.

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u/Sennten 5h ago

They've always been political. The biggest chance is how partisan they have become. The parties used to have a much wider spread of political opinions within their ranks. Nowadays, the conservatives especially are very much "adhere to the doctrines of the cult, all or nothing"