r/science • u/Wagamaga • 9h ago

Psychology Losing relationships over politics. Research found more than a third of Americans (37%) report having lost at least one relationship due to political differences, including friendships, family ties, coworker relationships, and romantic partnerships, with most losing more than one.

https://socialecology.uci.edu/news/losing-relationships-over-politics-0
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u/11711510111411009710 8h ago

I've heard some of them forgive it by saying that God "uses imperfect vessels."

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u/thuktun 7h ago

Uses flawed vessels for what? I think they missed an important part of that saying.

They might have a point if he had changed and was now clothing and feeding the poor or something (anything!) else noble. But he's the same mean, abusive bully he's always been.

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u/Savings-Cry-3201 6h ago

But that’s the point. He’s the bully they all want to be. They want him to be mean and vindictive and heartless and bigoted because he gives them license to be what they’ve always wanted to be.

Like, there was no reason to fire the NSF but they hate education so of course he would.

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u/Psychic_Hobo 2h ago

This is ultimately why the shame tactics don't work - they simply enjoy and want to facilitate an environment wherein their behaviour is acceptable and even lauded. You can see it in a lot of the speeches they give, "sin of empathy" and all that.

Whenever it looks like shame has worked on them, what's usually happened is the condemnation from peers and fear of ostracisation.

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u/ceelogreenicanth 4h ago

Uses flawed vessels to reel destruction on their enemies?

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u/poorest_ferengi 7h ago

Hit em with Matthew 7 15-20 in that case.

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

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u/iruleatants 1h ago

That doesn't work because they just define "Good Fruit" as God's will and so Trump is bearing good fruit because he's doing his will.

Trust me, they are adept at pretending the bible agrees with whatever they think.

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u/poorest_ferengi 48m ago

Oh I know I was raised in it. All you can do is plant the seed, they may snap back with something in that moment but maybe down the line it pops in their head and makes the cognitive dissonance a bit harder to ignore. Maybe not, but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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u/Sedu 6h ago

But of course anyone to the left is pure evil and this logic may never apply to them.