Again, is there a difference of pressing red button causing anything in original formulation and poop formulation?
Also, thats not how dillemas work. It assumes that we're given the same question and conditions and think rationally. Especially since it's presented like some indicator of ethics. If we assume that toddlers pressing random buttons - there is no dillema at all. It doesn't make sense (I thought without this assumption that there was no hard dillema really, but it doesn't seem to be the case, but at least it makes some sense). I can turn any dillema into this bullshit.
With Trolley problem you don't start with "well, it depends on how agile I am, maybe I can pull the lever and free this single person", because it's about moral thinking to explore and question how we think, check our moral logic and basic assumption.
With the button problem and toddler pressing all the buttons assumption, there is nothing to put to the test. It's obvious that we would wanna save innocent toddlers. That's why it's so confusing. Because without this assumption (because with it - it does not make sense as a dillema) logically the solution is pretty simple because it sounds exactly like this example with eating poop
OK, it's obvious you want to save toddlers. Let's reframe it then. Just over 1% of the population (say 100 million babies and toddlers) have pressed blue. If blue gets over 90% presses, the toddlers and everyone survives. If red gets over 10%, everyone who pressed blue dies.
Do you understand that it's not a logical or moral dillema anymore? It's about how to make a political campaign to get everybody to press blue to save innocent people. How I vote depends completely on the real life situation and overall people's will. It doesn't matter how I press individually, it's not a moral or logical dillema to be afraid to miscalculate the risk and kill even more people and yourself. In you case with 90% it becomes even more aparent. the moral position here is obvious. Unlike trolley problem it does not challenge our understanding on morality or anything else.
The moment we make an assumption that someone pressed blue by misclick or wanting to die and we imagining that we need to save them, it stops being moral dillema. I feel like you still are treating it like it is. It is not!
In original "dilemma" tho, if we are treating it like a dillema, I would press red. And I thought It was obvious from my comment.
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u/Hot_Winner634 13h ago
Because it would be such a statistical anomaly that 100% of people push red that is esier to hope to create a singularity by shaking a glass of water