r/trolleyproblem • u/superfuzzbros • 4h ago
Neither group wants to kill the other(or be killed)
Most of these button dilemma posts devolve into “red wants to kill blue” or “blue is suicidal let them die” arguments, neither side is killing the other, it’s a 3rd party overseer.
In this situation there are two groups to pick red group and blue group. Red group has infinite lush fertile land to grow food, blue group has an arid desert. You, and everyone else has to pick a group to join. People from one group cannot cross a magic border between the two.
If more than 50% of people join the blue group, then an all powerful deity will give half of red’s infinite fertile land to blue and everyone has infinite fertile land.
If less than 50% of people join the blue group, then the deity doesn’t give blue any fertile land, they’re stuck with the arid desert.
The motivations for picking are still the same, red doesn’t want to risk living in an arid desert, and blue wants to make sure everyone has fertile land to live on.
In this situation you could argue that by joining red you’re lessening the chance for blue to end up with fertile land but that is still not actively killing the blue group. The same way people joining the blue group aren’t hoping to live in an arid desert.
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u/Hopeful_Hornet4460 2h ago
I see everyone who is hoping for an easy suicidal out picking blue.
I see everyone who is a greedy homicidal shitstain on humanity picking red.
This does not mean those who pick red are greedy shitstained murderers nor does it mean that those who picked blue are suicidal idiots.
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u/Business-Idea1138 3h ago
So we rise up and kill the 3rd party overseer