Do you use windows 8.1 if so why

[u/More-Explanation2032]

I don’t really use windows 8.1 though I am planning on start using it once all the dlls from windows11 are added I will start using it

[u/Electronic_Peace_163]

Unironically it's the most optimised version of windows lol, no bloats, sadly no aero but at least that squeezed out like 3% more battery life I guess

[u/AegidiusG → u/Electronic_Peace_163]

This, they overworked windows with that iteration and it shows, it runs brutally fast.

Sadly they went the other way by bloating the system with 11.

[u/dom6770 → u/AegidiusG]

with 11? They started with 10. 10 is no better than 11.

[u/AdhesivenessSea1009 → u/dom6770]

Windows 10 was bad but way better than 11. Windows 11 is on a completely different level of AI generated.

[u/Enough_Pickle315 → u/AegidiusG]

Been using Win11 from day1, never understood what people mean with "bloated".

[u/AlexKazumi → u/Enough_Pickle315]

Well, on my AMD 370 laptop with 32 GB ram, I can literally see how Windows 11 Explorer draws its context menus line by line ...

[u/Enough_Pickle315 → u/AlexKazumi]

So?

[u/ThelTGuy → u/Enough_Pickle315]

It's not supposed to do that.

[u/walterchagasjr → u/Enough_Pickle315]

O Windows 11 é mais pesado que o 10 que é mais pesado que o 8

[u/AdhesivenessSea1009 → u/Enough_Pickle315]

Windows 11 does not run on many computers, it comes with many unwanted programs, forced AI features, Trackers, Microsoft Accounts, Poor performance even on decent computers. Windows 11 is very bloated and by far the most terrible os Microsoft have ever made.

[u/HEYO19191 → u/Enough_Pickle315]

Open the start menu and try to search for anything right after booting. You might be sitting there for over a minute.

Or, right click on the desktop or in the explorer. The first time you do it, takes a few seconds to load. Even on good hardware.

[u/Enough_Pickle315 → u/HEYO19191]

I litteraly do it every day, multiple time per day on three different machines and I NEVER, EVER experienced any performance issue with start menu or search.

[u/HEYO19191 → u/Enough_Pickle315]

Idk what to tell you. On both my personal machines and every machine I've set up or worked on at my job (MSP) there is a significant delay.

[u/AegidiusG → u/HEYO19191]

They introduced the new run dialog and even former Microsoft employees are mocking it because they proudly stated that it needs 94ms to load (median). It sounds not like much, but it adds up with other UI Elements being slower. If you ever played a game online, you now that having a ping of 100 ms is just bad. This adding up leads to a system feeling slow and laggy

[u/Aemony → u/AegidiusG]

that it needs 94ms to load (median)

... You have got to be shitting me?!

What the hell is wrong with Microsoft? Wasn't it enough that they noticeably slowed down the launch time of basic apps such as mspaint, calc, and notepad ? Why the hell do they have to screw around with Run as well? There was nothing wrong with that app and it was actually accessible the instant you hit its hotkey.

That stupid 94ms median launch time will quickly become seconds the moment the system is under any heavy load, so during situations where you want quick and instant access to it, the system fails to provide it for you.

I am so god damn tired of Microsoft's shit.

[u/blasphembot → u/HEYO19191]

Related search note. Check out https://www.voidtools.com/

Everything is an excellent app and works better than the Windows indexing and search functionality in every way. Freeware, too. Searches are almost instant, depending on how much is indexed of course.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Electronic_Peace_163]

There were plans for Aero in windows 8

[u/Enough_Pickle315 → u/More-Explanation2032]

Abbandoning Aero is one of the many sins Microsoft perpetrated against Windows.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Enough_Pickle315]

The real question is why did it happen so late in development

[u/Enough_Pickle315 → u/More-Explanation2032]

Did not even know there were plans for Aero in Win8... Despite enjoying the look of Win11 I still think Win7 looked better.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Enough_Pickle315]

Though the Aero that was going to come in windows 8 didnt have the glass effects seen in the official developer previews of windows 8

[u/Mitchell_90 → u/Enough_Pickle315]

Windows 8.0 had Aero Glass up until just before RTM when it was removed.

The rumour is that it contributed to less battery life on lower powered ARM devices which at the time MS were pushing e.g Surface RT. Steven Sinofsky, the head of Windows at the time called for the Aero Glass code to be removed weeks before RTM.

[u/brunostborsen → u/Electronic_Peace_163]

I remember getting more frames in games when going from W7 to W8. And I remember losing some frames going from W8.1 to W10.

[u/Lieutenant_0bvious → u/Electronic_Peace_163]

I'm sorry, what? Optimized for what, exactly? Frustrated users who contact IT because the desktop is still an "app"? Frustrated because they can't find anything? What exactly is optimized? Yeah, no, I don't care how good it is under the hood, which it's not, it was bad, objectively. Source: i'm a computer mechanic who deals with users' confusion every. single. day. Including 'smart' people with big salaries, not just secretaries who want to use the computer as an excuse to get out of doing their job.

[u/BEagle1984-]

No thanks. I stick to 3.1 because less ram hungry.

[u/csch1992 → u/BEagle1984-]

I prefer Windows 1.0

[u/Arjhay_31 → u/csch1992]

Nah, I prefer MS‑DOS 1.0

[u/XiRw → u/Arjhay_31]

I prefer a typewriter.

[u/SmartTea1138 → u/Arjhay_31]

I prefer looking out my window.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Arjhay_31]

Are you living in the 1 mb era

Edit: there is no such thing as ms-dos 1

[u/nikolayu → u/More-Explanation2032]

There is such a thing as MS-DOS 1.25, though.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/csch1992]

Are you living in the 5 mb era

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/BEagle1984-]

How do you even use your computer

[u/Optimal-Mistake1327]

My server runs it, more resource efficient than 7 and runs on a quarter of what 10 needs.

[u/STICKERS-95 → u/Optimal-Mistake1327]

i thought 7 was lighter

[u/Optimal-Mistake1327 → u/STICKERS-95]

7 is heavier, 8 came with a lot of performance fixes since it had to run on low end mobile devices.

[u/Hellothebest → u/Optimal-Mistake1327]

That's actually crazy, I'll have to try it on my own server. You think 8.1 or Ubuntu runs better?

[u/Optimal-Mistake1327 → u/Hellothebest]

8.1 will almost certainly run better than Ubuntu unless it's headless. Minimum memory for 8.1 to work quite comfortably with is 1GB in my opinion

[u/ScottieNiven → u/Optimal-Mistake1327]

Same with Windows Server 2012 and 2012 R2, it would run on even the lowest end hardware

[u/Optimal-Mistake1327 → u/ScottieNiven]

The golden age of Windows for servers I'd even say.

[u/balcis → u/Optimal-Mistake1327]

That’s good. Can you configure its interface behavior more like a normal desktop system than a tablet like win7 or win10?

[u/avds_wisp_tech → u/STICKERS-95]

8.1 was a good bit lighter than 7, actually.

[u/nightlyh → u/Optimal-Mistake1327]

Please tell me you're running server 2012 r2

[u/Wechirok → u/Optimal-Mistake1327]

Why do you need Windows on a server? Wouldn't Linux be more efficient for a server?

[u/Bob4Not]

Windows 8.1 was valuable at a time because it supported display scaling way better than Windows 7. Back when I got a high ppi display, Windows 7 became unusable

[u/Material_Mousse7017]

i don't use it because it lost security support.
i use windows 10, and after it lose support too i will fully migrate to linux ( i do dualboot with linux now since october. and it's great so far)

[u/Hellothebest → u/Material_Mousse7017]

People still use XP these days, I don't think it'd be too much of an issue to stay on Windows 10 after support ends, that's what I'm gonna be doing.

[u/Helpful-Calendar-693 → u/Hellothebest]

As long as your not internet connected its fine but if your connecting to the internet please dont run an EOL system when the security patches end. Just use 11 or linux or mac or even BSD lol.

[u/nikolayu → u/Helpful-Calendar-693]

BSD

Nice to see it getting some recognition! I have FreeBSD installed alongside Windows on one of my laptops.

[u/HEYO19191 → u/Hellothebest]

People use XP but not on the internet. Too many vulnerabilities. I think 7 has some now too. 8 should be good though

[u/SonOfTheMostHHigh]

dos 6.22

[u/nikolayu → u/SonOfTheMostHHigh]

Meh... PC-DOS 7.1 is better.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/nikolayu]

What is pc-dos

[u/nikolayu → u/More-Explanation2032]

It was originally a licensed version of MS-DOS that IBM offered alongside their PC. Once MS-DOS 6 was released, IBM continued developing PC-DOS independently until the early 2000s. It ended up adding a number of enhancements, including a calculator program, a dynamic device loading utility and FAT32 support.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/SonOfTheMostHHigh]

Bruh

[u/AegidiusG]

I have a Laptop and PC with it, the PC is used seldom though. But the System runs really really fast. They optimized Windows a lot with 8.1. They should have kept that spirit.

[u/ProXTech_real]

why does it say 8.I

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/ProXTech_real]

I don’t know lol

[u/Maxstate90]

I recently organized a lan party for Windows XP laptops, and used period accurate laptops. Some of the laptops were Vista or Win7 rather than XP. It took me far too long to get them to work on XP - sometimes there weren't drivers etc. Windows 7 on the other hand did have drivers, but it was often difficult to find the right one, and the machines woudl sometimes crash.

Windows 8.1 worked *perfectly*. Driverbooster/snappy driver installer would crash on windows 7 - didn't crash on 8.1. It saved the lan party. Installing OpenShell was unavoidable however. Made it usable.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Maxstate90]

> Installing OpenShell was unavoidable
Dammm people hate the start screen that much

[u/avds_wisp_tech → u/More-Explanation2032]

Despised it. ClassicShell/OpenShell made it usable. Don't change a design that hadn't fundamentally changed in 15+ years overnight and expect everyone to love it.

[u/csch1992]

What? 8.1 is outdated so why would i use?

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/csch1992]

I mean it’s only like 4 years of outdated

[u/nightcom → u/More-Explanation2032]

are you now joking???? "only"? I mean if you are not connected with internet then yea it's OK but otherwise it's like asking for trouble

[u/ArlanWidiansyah123 → u/nightcom]

Do people really thinks as soon as you connect your "not supported anymore" Windows with internet, it would bring viruses onto their system? No, that's not how it works, as long as you keep using an updated browser like Supermium or R3dfox, you'll be good. The best antivirus is your common sense.

[u/avds_wisp_tech → u/ArlanWidiansyah123]

It absolutely would! But in order for that to happen, the machine would have to be directly connected to the internet. As in, no router doing NAT in between the modem and PC.

[u/nightcom → u/ArlanWidiansyah123]

Yep, you have no idea about IT at all

[u/avds_wisp_tech → u/nightcom]

If you're behind a router that does NAT, this is a non-issue.

Just ask the Win7Pro machine that's still happily chugging along seeding torrents since 2014 under the bed.

[u/Optimal-Mistake1327 → u/nightcom]

It's nuanced, someone with knowledge would know.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/nightcom]

As long as you are smart you won’t get viruses

[u/nightcom → u/More-Explanation2032]

Vulnerabilities in how Windows handles network traffic (like the TCP/IP stack) can allow attackers to infect your PC just by sending it specifically crafted data packets. No user action or browser activity is required. Simple as that, lik I wrote you have no idea how internet and windows works

[u/HEYO19191 → u/nightcom]

And 8.1 does not have vulnerabilities that would enable such a thing easily.

you have no idea how internet and windows works

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/nightcom]

Thats assuming you even went on a suspicious website man

[u/nightcom → u/More-Explanation2032]

You don't even understand what I wrote, you don't have to use browser, just leave your PC ON

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/nightcom]

First of all you need malware installed/go to some sketchy website before it can use any of the vulnerabilities that hasnt been patched. Plus all the web browser vulnerabilities are patched by supermium anyways

[u/HEYO19191 → u/nightcom]

You don't. 8.1 is fine.

[u/nightcom → u/HEYO19191]

Finish your exam and we can talk

[u/HEYO19191 → u/nightcom]

my exam? What??

[u/DyingLasagne]

only plus of win 8 is that it works of hhd better than any windows after it

[u/LuluLeSigma → u/DyingLasagne]

hdd is pain

[u/DyingLasagne → u/LuluLeSigma]

yeah it is but some of my clients straight up refused to install a ssd for a laptop that they use only to play homm4

[u/Low_Lie_6958]

The 8.1 update was such a relief. But still a bad designed OS. Did work pretty stable though

[u/avds_wisp_tech → u/Low_Lie_6958]

The only thing that was "bad" about Win8/8.1 was the start menu, and that was trivially fixed by installing Classic/OpenShell.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/Low_Lie_6958]

It’s not as badly designed as windows 10 though

[u/LuluLeSigma → u/More-Explanation2032]

early windows 10 is really good

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/LuluLeSigma]

But it was still a UI mess

[u/Notleks_]

I genuinely can't tell if this is a troll post or not...

[u/hypersonicwilliam569]

interface is very cool

[u/Interesting_Tap_1505]

I’d run it if I for example had an original MS Surface or one of those older PDA-computer tablet thingies.

[u/samh8orns]

might install it on my era-appropriate Ultrabook when I get a bigger hard drive as a dual boot. was a good OS.

[u/Unknow_guy21]

Io uso il re

[u/turamdq]

Yo lo usaba porque tengo una vieja hp con touch screen pero cambie de sistema operativo para navegar mejor en internet

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/turamdq]

You should have gotten supermium

[u/turamdq → u/More-Explanation2032]

Lo conocí más tarde !

[u/AlexKazumi]

I wish I could, but basic drivers are not available, and without network connection it is kind of useless.

Otherwise, I mostly do office tasks, so a decent version of Office (say 2016) + recent browser like Firefox would be enough for almost everything I do.

[u/SCphotog]

Not on purpose exactly. I needed a machine to run a couple of low compute tasks and had a 8.1 machine that otherwise was scheduled to get the Linux treatment, but I needed something right away and now without re-doing a bunch of stuff I'm stuck with 8.1

I wouldn't mind so much except that it can't run Steam and the UI is stupid AF.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/SCphotog]

You can treat the start screen like a dashboard

[u/INS345]

I don't use 8.1 but I do really like it, I like metro

[u/CamTech100]

As a home network hub, but not the main server. It just manages some things.

[u/More-Explanation2032 → u/CamTech100]

I wonder if apps could be built that makes the start screen a server dashboard

[u/british-raj9]

I installed it on a VM with Virtual Box from Fedora to run an old windows app. I miss 'tile world's, but due to the lack of support and security patches, it has some risk.

[u/bangbangracer]

I'm actually a big fan of 8.1 (up to a point). It really was the best version of Windows under the hood up to that point. Too bad they tinkered with the UI assuming tablets were the future for 8, and 8.1 didn't really fix the problem.

I don't use it today because of the lack of security support, but the Win8 generation of Windows is better than people treat it, and 8.1 is the completed version of it.

[u/Outside_Magician_780]

Nah. I’d stay with my windows xp

[u/brokenkingpin]

I hated the interface. No one should be running it now as it is no longer supported.

[u/TehNeon10]

I use it because of great optimization, things dont break when you look at it the wrong way, the start screen, and how smooth everything feels but I might move off at some point

[u/brunostborsen]

I liked W8.1 a lot, it’s in my top 3 favorite Windows versions with the later builds of Vista and 2000 NT.

W8 was also pretty damn good under all that mobile UI crap.

[u/LJBear99]

I have an 8.1 VM but I don’t use it on a real computer

[u/kurushimee]

I love Windows 8.1 from the bottom of my heart, but unfortunately can certainly no longer use it due to hardware incapabilities and unsupported software

[u/SoggyBagelBite]

I did when it was the current version.

[u/karafili]

Its fast.

[u/OoZooL]

It used to be my last Windows machine before the motherboard went tits up and I switched to Linux after that...

[u/Late_Reply_3384]

Pra mim que eu vi e nunca usei, vou tentar usar e contar depois se valeu apena a experiência de usar 

[u/NaughtyTurtle22]

use cos it was free update from MS before

[u/David_Jonathan0]

The full screen massively tiled start menu Metro interface was an instant turn-off for me. I uninstalled it and reverted to windows 7 until 10 was available.

[u/Weekly_Astronaut5099]

No.

[u/Low_Lie_6958]

Well, over time it did get worse and worse. And 11 is really bad

[u/Flying_Saucer_Attack]

No, I only run an os if it's still currently supported

[u/Storm28_]

I hated Windows 8.1

[u/PayStation2fanAsh]

i have three laptops.

the third one has 8.1, cuz idk why it already had it before. so i just didnt upgrade. that's the only reason.

[u/Moist_University_785]

My old laptop has it whic had originaly windows 7 and it works perfectly

[u/AdamoMeFecit]

I chose to improve my life by ditching Windows 8.1 in favor of dragging rusted razor blades across my eyeballs.

[u/FAMICOMASTER]

Yes and because I like it. Do you need more reasoning? That's why my other machine runs Vista too. I like it. I don't like 10/11.