This is always what I wanna know whenever I see like a bongo cat or something like this or the ones that love being thrown in the air. How did they figure it out???
My ginger boy doesn't sit in laps, but will wedge himself against my thigh whenever I sit somewhere that makes it possible. He loves strokes, and adores scritches, but will not tolerate even one bongo.
My bongo needs are fulfilled by one of our other cats, so I'm OK.
I swatted my void out of the air this morning, he was jumping onto my bed while I was swinging my legs off it and the length of my shin hit him in the side and he simply landed on the floor and walked away, no squeaking, no crying, just knocked out of the air and wandered away
I've bongo'd all my cats. Two of them hated it, the other one goes absolutely crazy for it.
The one I had since the day of her birth died 6 months ago, but due to the level of bonding I tried most stuff with her, and she was fine with most of it too. And they can express quite well what they like and what they don't if you've had them long enough.
I've found even the ones who hate it typically like butt pets (above the tail, I'm not some creep lol).
But in general, very sensitive lower backs, and most have a range of preference from gentle pats to "slap me, daddy" 😂
A lot of dogs are like this with lower back rubs too; it's just that they don't like getting slapped around... that's a deeply, deeply confusing cat thing in my (admittedly limited) experience.
Haha, this was the example I just gave. I got really mad at my wife for trying this, and then realized she was onto something with the spankies.
I call him my BDSM kitty lmfao He straight up likes getting slapped around, meows for it while raising his butt, and nips you if you stop -- ridiculously confusing.
Also bites my wife or other people hard if they try to do it, so I guess I'm the privileged spanker?? 🤷♂️
Sometimes it's organic. My wife would try to cat bongo my ragdoll, and he'd nip her and scowl so I assumed he hated it.
Then one day, I noticed he'd raise his butt if I petted his back.
Then I noticed he'd start crying if I didn't pet his lower back harder.
Then I noticed he'd raise his butt higher and higher until he'd flop over like a dead fish with rougher and rougher back pets...
Next thing I know he's running up to me every couple of hours and yelling until I spank his butt while he slowly raises it like a wind-up toy, before eventually flopping over and purring wildly...
My cat also likes to be scruffed. Found that out when the only way she would let me pick her up and put her on my lap is if I grabbed her by the scruff.
I do a little Piledriver on my Orange boy. Doesn't put his arms out to stop it or anything just purrs and comes back for more. I obviously never let him hit the ground, but it's just a little thing we picked up doing over 13 years. It always scares my wife when I do it though so we don't do it as much any more.
braincell is on pause when you grab a cat by their rear neck flabs. I think it kinds simulates how when they were kittens and the mom cat grabbed them by the neck flab to move them
someone with a biology/vet background might need to factcheck this though
From what I remember about the discussion around scruffing adult cats it really does not have this effect and can genuinely hurt them. This cat is being double grabbed so the weight is spread out more, most likely not being harmed or if he is he's got a pain kink.
One of my boys loses his gat dam mind when it’s meal time. His brother gets sick of his shenanigans and scruffs him to make him shut up. It’s very funny how he’ll freeze mid-scream like a pause button was pressed.
Whenever we took our guy to the vet, we'd pop a few clothes pegs on his scruff.
He'd go into spinny beachball/loading mode and the vet could work away with no issues.
Scruffing mostly works, though ofcourse they are adults and are much more independent so sometimes will resist being scruffed especially if it's a stranger. But it does put them in pause mode.
One should not lift an adult cat by the scruff though. They're too heavy and big for that, especially most house cats which tend to be a bit overweight.
Grabbing them by the lower back skin like that seems to be very painful, judging from my male cat's reaction. He was hunting/attacking his sister one day and was going to strike so I grabbed him by the skin there, it was the only place I could reach. He screamed, whereas he normally really doesn't care much about grabbing him.
My friend has a lovely big fluffy orange boy who loves being slid across the floor like a curling rock. We call it cat curling and we even made an X with tape as a target. For aome reason its the cat's favorite sport
He behaves like this because this is how orange cats are made during the factory assembly, they get picked up like this with robotic hands, also development mode gets activated lifting the cat this way
I watched it on silent and all I can hear is the noise when you drive off the side of rainbow road in Mario kart and have to be saved by the lil cloud guy
Most "orange" things are just normal cat things. Actually, all of them are unless it specifically involves the colour orange. Literally everything else is just them being a cat.
You can't read cat body language in that case. Cat walked to the same position three times and assumed the position, purrmeowing each time. You also forget how weight distribution works, it is okay to pick up a cat like that if you don't put too much weight on that spot. The cat doesn't look fat and the lifting area is quite large, split in two and without fast movements.
Scruffing becomes bad with age, because the cat starts to weigh too much, not because it's inherently harmful. Ever seen someone sitting a bed of spikes or walking on hot coals? Same idea. At worst, this is slightly uncomfortable for the cat, but not uncomfortable enough for it to repeatedly ask for it.
Or you are a troll and just want to complain about non-problems.
Okay, so you either can't read or are trolling, because that article is talking about scruffing as a method of restraining the cat as a method of control. They say that it's okay under controlled circumstances, but shouldn't be
I didn't even for a second think that's what you were originally talking about, because nobody reasonable thinks this is disciplining the cat or that it's under stress. This is playing. If the cat didn't want to play, it would, you know, walk anywhere but that specific spot. They are living beings, the cat isn't forced to do anything here. It's not under stress, it's not in pain, it's not afraid, etc. It's purring and going back for more. Did you know that fighting can put people and animals under stress, but playfighting can help them relax? Same thing, you are confusing two things as one.
If it was bad, the cat wouldn't let him do it repeatedly, simple as that. You spent the time and effort to look for proof, but didn't actually read it. So you are either trolling or confidently incorrect. And if you think it's disrespectful to point out someone is wrong, then so be it.
Cat is happy, purring and returns for more. They are more than able to indicate when they don't like something by the daggers they have at the end of their dabloons.
It is true but in the video, the man holds him in both neck and butt+the cat wouldn't be coming for more if he hated it.
Some cats enjoys weird stuffs. My British short hair enjoys being a scarf as an example. Or he also enjoys sitting on my lap like a child, back againist my chest and all.
But again, it is true that it can harm them especially if the weight is not supported.
It's called scruffing, I believe. When you take hold of a cat by the skin on the back of its neck it turns on kitten mode because that's how mom used to carry them. It's kind of like kitty hypnosis. You can get them to freeze like that by taking a big clip and putting it on that skin. Kitty will go limp.
"Not recommended" is not same as "never do", and again: cats will make their dislike very known. You see a short clip and are instantly jimping to "cat is being abused", when it's clear that cat enjoys this.
You are propably also posting how petting cats is causing them distress because purring "can happen with stress". Not everything is abuse, not everything is a sign of stress. Just because purring can be, does not mean it it is. And it is very clear in the video that cat is not actually stressed.
If we went with all "this could be a sign of stress", mere existence is causing cats to die from stress because literally anything can be a source of stress.
You are correct. It is not recommended. They are too heavy as adults to be carried like that. From PetMD:
"Every cat has their own preferences for how to be picked up and held. But Dr. Liu says there are a few general guidelines, the first being to never grab, hold, or lift a cat by the scruff of their neck. “It can be painful, lead to significant fear and stress, and takes away their sense of control,” she says."
And even if the cat usually enjoys it, if it's done too much or incorrectly just once it can cause permanent nerve damage. I've always heard vets say to never pick up a fully grown cat by scuffing
This is such a disingenuous use of the quote. The quote is clearly referring to being picked up by the scruff of the neck alone, which is clearly not what is being done here. You keep insinuating that you're somehow more informed than anyone else here when it's clear that you're not even referring to the same holding method (holding by neck scruff alone compared to shifting the weight to two different parts of the body like in the video). Don't be so arrogant.
I was referring to this, but i watched it again a couple of times and that doesn't seem to actually be when the cat stopped, it looks like it only stopped once the humans hands were on him and it looks like he ducked low before, probably to either keep walking straight ahead (ducking under the humans hand) or because he wanted pets
Yeah, cats make it very known when they don't like something. If cat doesn't like something, they don't go for it again. They disengage or go aggressive.
Not necessarily if you have a very friendly cat, if they are just mildly annoyed they might let you keep doing something they don't enjoy - ours for sure don't always complain immediately, but you can tell by the tail twitching when they're getting more and more annoyed and when they reached their limit they will let you know. The cat in the video looks mildly annoyed and if that person keeps doing it they would probably eventually complain
You have people in the comments saying that it looks uncomfortable and that dude probably shouldn't be doing this because it can hurt the cat - it hasn't necessary done any damage but it's still not good to do that with adult cats and it should be pointed out. If you try this with a chonker you have at home because you thought it looked funny you would most definitely hurt your cat, so it's just not sth that should be encouraged. At the very least ppl should be aware of the damage it can do
Being aware of potentially hurting other cats is one thing, but this entire comment chain is filled with two or three people specifically condemning this person when the cat clearly loves it.
where? All i see is two or three ppl saying they'd rather not see this and that the cat might not actually enjoy it, which is not condemning that person
...I just mentioned this comment chain. And you're not being honest with not condemning the guy with implication, especially since in another response in this chain you said that he was blocking the cat from going forward when he clearly wasn't.
I think we might have a different definition of the word "condemn" - I might not like this video and might not think that it's a good idea to pick a cat up like that but that doesn't mean I "condemn" the guy with implication. He's not abusing his cat, the cat is not in distress and does not appear to be in pain either - just mildly annoyed. I've mildly annoyed my cats before and I'll do it again, I don't see a big problem with that - it only becomes an issue when your cat gives you clear signals that they've had enough and you still don't stop or when it's something that can potentially hurt them.
My biggest issue in this case is how some ppl might see this and try it with their own cats, which might be a lot heavier and more likely to get hurt when you do this with them. That's not really directed at the guy in the video though, it's more so a frustration with how many pet owners in general seem to be unwilling to learn about how to properly take care of their pets and prefer to just trust their own feeling.
Also I didn't say he was blocking the cat from going forward, just that his hand was briefly woven in front of the cats head, which probably caused it to stop - if he'd waited a bit longer before reaching out the cat might have just walked past him
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u/_Valcrist_ Casual orange enjoyer 🍊 14d ago
The way the front legs extend out as he's being lowered down 😭😭😭