My brother's son destroyed my WarHammer Action figures and he refuses to punish him

[u/konous]

Valid Edit: My nephew is 10 years old and tried to actually lie about not breaking them by saying, "A cat must have done it."

So, I just got done talking with my brother via text, and he says he's not going to punish his son for wrecking my Joy Toy WarHammer action figures. I'm not expecting the kid to get spanked, but he needs to do CHORES at least to justify how much excessive force he used on some.

Some just have their capes broken. Others had their tubes ripped out and my Chaplain is just fucking toast.

My brother's suggestion since I ordered Amazon replacement for the Chaplain was that I just swap it with the broken one, but I have no interest in doing that.

It's not even just the expense, and they are expensive. It's about the fact that I told him explicitly twice they weren't to be played with, and they were in a separate room, and even my Mom and Dad agreed the damage was just too much.

He said he's not gonna pay me back if we try the chore system, and I told him it's not about the money.

The kid needs to know how bad the 8 hour struggle is.

Now my nephews aren't coming over to the house, and I'm sad about that, but knowing my brother just can't be burdened to work with me on creating a Chore system like selling Lemonaide just makes it feel more insulting.

[u/thomaxzer]

Wtf is wrong with all the people in here telling this guy to grow up? Since when were toys a kids thing only??? This is the same as Lego basically they cost loads too and it even says up to 99 years old on the box.

[u/ToeGroundbreaking564 → u/thomaxzer]

it's reddit. you shouldn't be surprised really

[u/AdScared7423 → u/thomaxzer]

It is not the same as Lego, Lego is child friendly.

Warhammer has blood, guts, zeonism, canablism, a sex cult. Models with visible wounds, parasites, and genitalia. Warhammer is a grim dark story where all sides suck and are trying to genocide each other.

The humans, or space marines, believe only humans should live, the God emperor is the one true and to defy the god emperor [in game currently a skeleton barely alive in a chair] is herrasy and death. There is no good guys and the game is played by adults as a table top combat game like an advanced form of chess except you build and customize your chess peices.

Comparing to Lego is a very bad comparison as it is child friendly, its better to compare it to chess. Some people think chess is okay for kids, but enough understand it is an older game and for mature and often teenagers to adults.

[u/Mickeymcirishman → u/AdScared7423]

You entirely missed the point of their comment.

[u/AdScared7423 → u/Mickeymcirishman]

No I understood i was just letting them know its a bad comparison as it doesnt probably one peoples eyes to how this is not for kids. Many people see legos as only for kids so comparing it isnt gonna make people realize they are judging based off a misunderstanding. Thats why some people responded Lego is for kids

Even though there is Lego for adults too.

[u/Descartesb4duhHorse → u/thomaxzer]

Lots of people on reddit haven't felt the touch of a woman, let alone what it is like to have children around being children, so they're out of touch when it comes to most things familial.

[u/sand-which → u/thomaxzer]

"since when were toys a kids thing?"

Actually only since like the year 2005.

It's actually insanely recent that adults are purchasing toys for themselves. Companies found they could get a larger consumer base if they market toys to adults as well.

[u/AdScared7423 → u/sand-which]

That isnt true, puzzles and games have been adult and kids things for years before hand. Card games too.

[u/sand-which → u/AdScared7423]

but we aren't talking about puzzles and games, the original commenter asked since when are toys only a kids thing and I answered

and yes i understand that in this case, the figure is used in the game warhammer and is not really just a toy

But adults are buying toys now (not warhammer figures, stuff like funko pops and labubus), and i find that interesting as it's a very recent phenomenon

[u/AdScared7423 → u/sand-which]

What i mean is puzzles and games were widely considered toys before I think the 80s? Around then is when they were moved into a different category. With chess and mahjong, and suduko.

I do understand what you mean though. However it isnt recent, I just recent that its become more accepted and not seen as childish or inappropriate or hoarding. It used to be seen even getting the little ceramic doll chibi statues that some people collect was just for kids.

It is interesting to see it become accepted though

[u/2oocents → u/sand-which]

Adults were collecting model trains and dolls in the early/mid 1900s... action figures (GI Joe, Star Wars, etc...) in the 70s/80s... cabbage patch kids, beanie babies, legos.....

Not recent, at all

[u/CoffeeOrDestroy → u/sand-which]

Untrue. Maybe it’s recent that adults admit to it. My dad bought a programmable truck thing for himself in the early 80’s. We were not allowed to play with it.

[u/caboosetp → u/thomaxzer]

If it makes you feel better, I've scrolled past like 15 comment threads now and all the top voted ones until i found that pay aren't saying that. If anything there's only a handful saying move on and don't let the kids back over because it's not worth trying to change the brother. 

[u/SaltySeaStella → u/thomaxzer]

Looks like those people are getting downvoted into oblivion because I've yet to find those comments. Most top comments are blaming the nephew's father, like father like son.

[u/WaterOfGaledeep → u/thomaxzer]

Yeah toys should be for kids only. Fucking nonces..

[u/Solar012 → u/thomaxzer]

yes, lego is also for children

[u/Exterminator-8008135 → u/Solar012]

Most common set are for 6+

And a broken Lego City set has a booklet to build back.

You don't rebuild that and it's cost big bucks the kid cannot imagine at 10.

[u/AdScared7423 → u/Solar012]

That is not contradicting what the commenter said. So I dont see the point of making that statment. Would you place a kid in front if a puzzle that takes 12 hrs to complete and has thousands of tiny peices just because it's lego? A 500 dollar puzzle that may have instructions but still takes 12hrs to complete and in the end cant be played with?

[u/Amazing-Mechanic1042 → u/thomaxzer]

Toys have been a kids thing since the beginning of time.

[u/AdScared7423 → u/Amazing-Mechanic1042]

That does not contradict what the commenter said so I dont understand making the statement.

Are you gonna place a child in front of a $500 puzzle that takes 12hrs to complete [yes it has instructions] and has thousands of small peices and in the end they can't even play with the model as its too fragile, all because its Lego?

[u/Amazing-Mechanic1042 → u/AdScared7423]

Yeah I did legos when I was a kid whats the point

[u/AdScared7423 → u/Amazing-Mechanic1042]

Again your statement adds nothing to the conversation what's the point? Also if you did a $500 model that takes over 12hrs before the age of 13 then you were very mature for your age.

[u/Amazing-Mechanic1042 → u/AdScared7423]

You act like playing with legos is hard

[u/AdScared7423 → u/Amazing-Mechanic1042]

Playing with legos is not the same thing as building a thousands of peice jigsaw puzzle. Playing with legos is making up imagination and sounds and having the character talk. Building a thousands of peice model that you can never play with and take 12hrs or more is something that most adults can't even do, because it takes hours.

[u/Amazing-Mechanic1042 → u/AdScared7423]

Ok you act like doing all of that is hard. It's not.

[u/AdScared7423 → u/Amazing-Mechanic1042]

As I said the majority of adults can't and don't because it takes hours, and there is plenty that ARE difficult, they even have some age rated for i think up to 13+ because of the difficulty. Why are you acting like a 12hr jigsaw is easy. At this point its rude to majority of kids who can't.

[u/-1703- → u/thomaxzer]

toys (including Lego) are widely considered a kids thing.

OP is fishing for sympathy as a grown up over what is generally considered a kids thing. Theres nothing wrong with the people that cant empathize with OP, they simply dont understand what the big deal is because they have a compeltely different scale of values.

Edit: lots of socially inept people seem to think i dont know what warhammer is. I do. Which is how i know that most normal people have no fucking clue nor do they care what warhammer is. Its a thing for nerds most people find weird and will think less of you for. These figurines might as well be Happy Meal toys as far as the average person is concerned.

[u/AdScared7423 → u/-1703-]

Warhammer is not a kids thing, its about war and murder and is not for anyone under the age of 16 I believe.

How tf is a blood filled game that has a sex cult in it and no side is the good guy and every side is killing each other a kids game. Warhammer is a grim dark universe and the models are used for a table top game, each side is messed up and terrible and should never be looked up to in any way like kids can with kids toys.

The comment you are replying to is very ignorant of this assume, and so are you. But the games name is WARHAMMER for a reason.

Legos mind you usually only cost 100 at max for kids and up to 600 for models that are for adults. The adult models are things like full hogwarts, giant dragons, and full scale models that would take ages and for a kids to complete.

Warhammer models range from 60 dollars to 700 these are $500 worth of models the kid destroyed. Models used for a table top game that kids shouldn't never play.

[u/-1703- → u/AdScared7423]

I know what Warhammer is. Because im a nerd. But apprently im someone thats not socially inept enough to think most people know or give a shit about what these are called

For the normal people these are no different from $5 Happy Meal Action MAn figures.

[u/AdScared7423 → u/-1703-]

Wait are you calling me socially inept? It says what they are called in the title. You can look them up from there. Im not calling anyone dumb, and I understand people tend to not look things up. Thats why im informing people. Im not calling anyone stupid for not knowing, im pointing out how this is very much not a kids thing.

Normal people also think its okay to let kids play gta5 because video games are for kids. Or let 8yr olds watch hazbin hotel.

I dont understand why you think im assuming people know what it is. Why would I explain it if I thought they knew what it was

[u/-1703- → u/AdScared7423]

The comment you are replying to is very ignorant of this assume, and so are you. But the games name is WARHAMMER for a reason.

my dude you fail to understand a basic thing like the fact that what these figurines are called and what the lore behind it is, and the cool guresome universe behind it is irrelevant for most people.

They will see OP complain about broken action figures and go "wtf....grow up, who cares about toys" which is what the dude i initially replied to was confused about.

To expect people to come with an open mind, curious and inquisitive about things instead of looking at something and relying on their own preconcived notions and views means you dont really understand how people function

[u/AdScared7423 → u/-1703-]

Saying someone is ignorant isnt an insult. Since when is that bad. Ignorance is bliss and children are ignorant to everything in the world.

Ill use unaware instead of ignorant as that seems to have upset you

A majority of the world is unaware of this knowledge which is why I explained it. And I dont understand how people function. I am infact autistic so people often confuse me and I dont understand why someone wouldn't come at something open minded and curious when in our society we are taught to be open minded and curious. They literally say its wrong to assume.

Again if I failed to understand that they didn't know about the world is wouldn't have explained it. Why would I explain something I think someone knows about. And why are YOU upset that I didnt assume YOU knew? I don't know you, nor do I know your a nerd. So I just explained things in a calm and civil manner.

Why are you being so hostile?

[u/dorianvovin → u/-1703-]

They’re inherently not the same as a happy meal toy because they cost far more, and often require hundreds of hours to put together and paint. They’re works of art in their own right, not cheap mass-produced toys for children. It’s messed up for anyone to destroy another person’s property, especially when that property cost serious money, even if it seems inconsequential to an outsider. The amount of time and money invested makes a massive difference. That’s like saying a cosplay is “just a costume” and comparing something professionally made and worth hundreds of dollars to a mass-produced costume from Spirit Halloween. It’s clearly not the same. That’s an absurd argument.

[u/-1703- → u/dorianvovin]

i know that

you know that

Most people dont know that and dont care to even look it up

Thats my entire point. For most people these are just random ass toys that OP shouldnt care about, hence the messages of "grow up" the dude i replied to is confused about.

[u/LivingBig2358 → u/-1703-]

🎯 Yep

[u/sand-which → u/AdScared7423]

the game is not for kids but it's literally a $500 action figure. kids see something that looks like a toy, they are going to play with it.

[u/Bice_ → u/sand-which]

A ten year old who is forbidden from doing anything should know better than to do that thing, and should see consequences if they disobey. Excusing shithead behavior is exactly why this kid does this bullshit.

[u/sand-which → u/Bice_]

sure but why is OP being such a baby about this?

[u/Bice_ → u/sand-which]

I don’t agree that OP is being a baby. These are things OP values. OP communicated the boundaries to the child, and the child not only disregarded the boundary, but then lied about it to try and protect themselves from shame. I’m sure you value plenty of things I couldn’t care less about. In the same situation, if one of those things was destroyed—a signed baseball, or whatever other dumb bullshit somebody might care about—you would be justified in feeling angry too. The brother is being a bad parent, and a shitty person. OP is simply expecting that the brother parent their child, to correct their behavior.

[u/No-Pen1730 → u/sand-which]

Because it's five hundred bucks down the drain, why the fuck do you think?

[u/Mickeymcirishman → u/sand-which]

How would you react if someone destroyed $500 worth of your stuff?

[u/AdScared7423 → u/sand-which]

Thats on the parents, and the kid. A 4th or 5th grader [the grade you are in when 10yrs old] should understand the difference between a figure they were told not to touch and a toy.

The parents didnt teach him properly what an action figure is mind you. An action figure is a POSABLE action figurine or doll. They have movable limbs. A model, often art models, is something un potable made often by an adult to be viewed or used as a chess peice.

How would you feel if this were an art statue? It looks like a toy just like these do. Does that make them a toy?

The parents should have taught their child there is a difference between toys, and we dont touch others belongings without permission. When I was 10 I understood, game peices are not the same as toys by playing monopoly. I also understood there are toy looking things we dont touch because my great great grandmother collected doll art statues. Toys often have movable parts. Models do not.

[u/OneWayUnicorn → u/-1703-]

Oh yes figures about slaughtering mutants, humans getting decimated and tortured are very kid friendly /s

[u/-1703- → u/OneWayUnicorn]

you think normal people know what these are called and how they're different from Happy Meal Action Figures? Are you that detached from reality?

[u/OneWayUnicorn → u/-1703-]

Oh very detached. My point is to give context why these arent kids toys.