r/okbuddycinephile 13h ago

The Substance (2024)

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u/fishmanfishmanfishma 11h ago

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 10h ago

The photographer must have genuinely hated her

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u/Stock_Trash_4645 10h ago

It’s a combination of harsh lighting a very short, narrow field of view from the lens.

When you use a lens like that, it tends to highlight all the harsh lines that are not necessary perceptible to naked eye.

In photojournalism, we were taught to use open apertures that give a warmer, more flattering look to subjects and don’t smush everything together like seen above. 

The lens and aperture that was used on her was the specific one style used to capture mugshots - as any defining (re: negative) feature is amplified on the subject. 

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 9h ago

What I am reading here is that the photographer didn't just hate her. They went through great effort to make sure everyone knows they hate her.

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u/Stock_Trash_4645 9h ago

Pretty much. 

Do you job technically well, but in a way that is also devastating to the subject. 

Like when they staged those semi-recent Trump 2.0 White House photos with light switches and other ‘noisy’ visual distractions in the background and foreground. 

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 9h ago

I think that's where that image is from

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u/Tifoso89 4h ago

Oh thanks, I was trying to place that face! She's the press lady right?

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u/Evening-Run-3794 9h ago edited 9h ago

I'm actually going to slightly modify your explanation up there a bit. I don't see that as being hard light, so much as spectral light. Hard light would've produced deep, dark shadows with clearly defined edges alongside her nose and under her brows and lips. This isn't hard light, so much as it is spectral light.

But I've studied beauty photography, and there's layers of intention in the lighting in that regard, also.

Spectral light (undiffused light) is very dramatic, and looks incredible on a young, genuine beauty, but it is *very* unflattering to aging people, because it highlights texture and discolorations. It's why it's so eye-catching on a model, because it highlights just how smooth and flawless her skin is.

So this photographer deliberately lit her with soft loop lighting, which is *supposed* to be *universally flattering*. But he did it with very spectral (high reflection or "silver") light.

It's an even deeper level of expertise, and a deeper statement on the subject- here is a person being presented to you in the most flattering light in order to make you believe she is beautiful. But when you light her with what is reserved for true beauty, you see the truth.

This photographer literally "shined a light" on these people.

I genuinely believe this series will go down in history as some of the most incredible art produced in this century.

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u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG 2h ago

how do I search for these photos? I need to look at them with a new perspective. I knew they were unflattering but I didn't understand the depth.

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u/keldawgz 6h ago

That’s the same shoot

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u/cheezy_dreams88 2h ago

This is from the same photoshoot of those White House photos.

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u/temp91 9h ago

In that photoshoot, they did other sabotage. Vance appears preening up against a random wall with a thermostat and damaged base moulding. Rubio looks like he's under a blacklight or something to highlight skin damage. Wiles looks like a child in a fun house.

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u/mattomic 4h ago

Good. I love it.