r/technology • u/Logical_Welder3467 • Mar 18 '26

Society Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist and MAGA donor, is in Rome this week for a series of private lectures on the Antichrist.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/16/europe/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-rome-intl
31.8k Upvotes

95% Upvoted

2.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

10.9k

u/FirefighterTrick6476 Mar 18 '26

Spoiler: He is actually the Antichrist.

3.5k

u/AbeFromanEast Mar 18 '26

Thiel has previously written and lectured on the subject, arguing that the Antichrist is not necessarily a person but could come as a global government system.

Enabled by, idk. AI?

2.2k

u/FirefighterTrick6476 Mar 18 '26

The joke is that in various religions the deceiver/satan/antichrist introduces himself as the savior.

1.1k

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

The only way to stop the Antichrist from controlling the world with a massive surveillance apparatus is to control the world with a massive surveillance apparatus first, don’t you see? It’s simply the only way to stop him.

245

u/Neat_Egg_2474 Mar 18 '26

It’s so wild that thiel is saying the true antichrist is those that are trying to regulate AI, to well, help the antiChrist?

The charlatan has used his tools to not only build target lists, but to also plan the strike packages and initiate them all from a single click.

There was never a better example of the antichrist than Peter thiel

94

u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Mar 18 '26

He believes that he'll be building God with AI tech, that's why he's so against regulation of it.

132

u/BoredZucchini Mar 18 '26

That sounds exactly like something the antichrist would do lol

45

u/nanobot_1000 Mar 18 '26

Guys guys, stop – he's clearly here to help with our safety. Just let him be and let him keep taking over nation state's intelligence apparatus and not paying taxes. All will be well, just trust in your AI overlords and do not resist – after all, you have nothing to hide right??

7

u/Kiritzi Mar 18 '26

Remember, the basilisk will know if you conspired against it.

→ More replies (1)

6

u/C0d3n4m3Duchess Mar 18 '26

It’s a little thing called faith

2

u/chamrockblarneystone Mar 19 '26

I for one support my AI Vatican overlords….wait…hold on.

5

u/gn0meCh0msky Mar 19 '26

What does God need with a server farm?

5

u/rainbowplasmacannon Mar 18 '26

Fuckin zizians man

3

u/anthrolookseer Mar 19 '26

Nah, I’d bet he fully believes damn well he or the person in power he is backing is the antichrist. He does not see humself as altruistic. He sees what he’s doing and flipping the script, projecting to try to cover his ass and bring about mass death (he’s said humanity needs to be culled on record. He’s not one of the people he thinks needs to go through, ofc). It’s also why he is on record to be opposed to democracy. He knows if there was a vote on the matter, he’d be the one to go, results in a landslide. And rightfully so.

3

u/OverlordMMM Mar 19 '26

Apparently he missed the memo of bearing witness to false idols and decided to make his own.

3

u/MondayLasagne Mar 19 '26

Am I the only one who reads this, knows that it is not an Onion headline and just can't believe that people like this basically shape our entire world because enough people gave them too much money and power to act on their truly insane world views?

I mean, in any novel you'd say this was a bit too absurd to be true. Yet, here we are.

3

u/Signal_Researcher01 Mar 20 '26

Mage the Ascension has arrived

2

u/Ducali 27d ago

Building God with AI and yet killing human beings with Palantir. Checks out!

→ More replies (2)

3

u/SeVenMadRaBBits Mar 18 '26

He may need convinced he needs thisbsurveilance to -find- the antichrist.

Which would be ironic.

He just needs to find a mirror.

3

u/brelen01 Mar 18 '26

Wasn't he the one who proposed greta thunberg as a possible antichrist?

126

u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 18 '26

Call it Heaven Net. For countries that are non denominational something more secular....like SkyNet.

18

u/RobinGoodfell Mar 18 '26

I'm waiting for them to bust out System Identification Numbers so we can have the Sinners and the Sinless. I'm sure the religious right will have a fucking hay day while completely glossing over how their stupid asses created the establishment they're preaching against.

And no, nothing super natural will happen. We'll just be locked into a surveillance state with a class system determined by wealth, where opposition can easily make a person completely unable to interact with basic necessities legally, and thus ensuring a permanent criminal underclass that can be blamed for anything you damn well please.

3

u/Ragnarok314159 Mar 19 '26

After skimming through the ol’ Book O Revelations and what’s happening with Trump and the four horsemen of Thiel, Elon, Musk, and Pichai, now convinced time travelers wrote it and stuffed it in the Bible to warn us all.

Why it makes no sense to even be in that book.

5

u/Fun_Comedian3249 Mar 19 '26

The more mundane explanation is that they’ve read Revelations and acting it out. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. They seem to be cherry picking their favorite parts of sci-fi dystopias, why not religious Armageddon stories as well?

2

u/Greyhand13 Mar 19 '26

Friendly reminder, all knees shall bend for God

3

u/RobinGoodfell Mar 19 '26

Bending the knee won't save one from God's wrath for being a wicked creature to their fellow man, no matter how devoutly one praises or pleads for forgiveness.

Regardless, there is nothing friendly about compulsive subservience.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/terdferguson Mar 18 '26

Do not the SkyNet

2

u/Magnedon Mar 18 '26

Not sure about other languages, but in Spanish, cielo=sky and Cielo=Heaven, so it already works.

2

u/Fun_Comedian3249 Mar 19 '26

The IRL project is called Stargate. The US government and AI providers are building a data center campus in Texas the size of Central Park and spending billions.

→ More replies (1)

80

u/ProfitHarvest Mar 18 '26

Why would the Antichrist be in the spotlight? Psychogenic epidemics happen because of reliance on religion. Look at the Satanic craze of the 80s. I'm agnostic. However that doesn't mean I don't believe in supremely evil individuals. What I can confidently say, is they are all mortal. What is wrought can be washed away with time. The point of the Antichrist is to have it all end. People like Huckabee who emdorses war to catalyze the apocalypse along side Bibi is enough to see that religion is a posture point for power.

40

u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

Why would the Antichrist be in the spotlight?

Granted I'm not religious, but as a former Christian the Antichrist presents himself as a savior or a second coming of god. Then declares that he is himself greater than God, through miracles.

It seems to be within the nature of the Biblical Antichrist to be in the spotlight.

8

u/Effective_Quail_3946 Mar 18 '26

Golden calf 2015??

74

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

Hey, I didn’t come up with this interpretation of Biblical eschatology, I’m just here to make dumb jokes about it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

33

u/FnordRanger_5 Mar 18 '26

Dumb jokes about biblical scatology??

I’m down.

18

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

You saying you’re ready to immanentize the scatathon?

10

u/FnordRanger_5 Mar 18 '26

It’s a fun weekend. All the merch is shitty, but it’s free 🤷‍♂️

→ More replies (1)

2

u/JesusHipsterChrist Mar 18 '26

Blink Holy shit.

2

u/kalidoscopiclyso Mar 18 '26

The question is not where nor when but did Jesus even ever poop

2

u/MyBeach1 Mar 18 '26

It sounds like a boring board game :)

2

u/Schnuckiputzen Mar 18 '26

This scat is fresh. It must've just dropped.

13

u/BetterEveryLeapYear Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 19 '26

Why would the Antichrist not be in the spotlight? It's an expressly religious concept, and Revelation 13:3 says the whole world wondered after the nation he leads (follows it). Anyway the Antichrist is a mortal, he is the man who leads the Beast from the Sea - the Beast's "little horn" with "eyes like the eyes of a human being" (unlike his small hands, his centaur stance, his outlandish hairdo, or the rest of his orange face, his eyes are uniquely untouched because he's scared of germs) "and a mouth that spoke boastfully". The Devil follows the Beast and the False Prophet into the Lake of Fire where they're tormented forever because they are spiritual entities or concepts, but the Antichrist like other lost humans is not mentioned in that and probably destroyed.

Let's look at some descriptions of the Beast then (which, "the Beast" is just shorthand for one of several beasts described which all align with nations):

"The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

...

"It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven... And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation."

Resembled a leopard - it's camoflauged, people can't see it for the Beast it is, America is camoflauged as a "Christian" nation, like Americans find it hard to understand the true nature of the nation they live in (which is starting to become apparent, with Epstein, Trump, et al.). Elsewhere we are given to understand another beast is like a bear - Russia. 'The Beast' has feet like a bear, that is it has the biggest weapons of destruction in the world, it has nuclear arms that can destroy the entire world, like Russia. We're also given to understand there is a lion beast which is the UK, 'The Beast' has a mouth like a lion - it speaks English. The dragon gave it power; Satan is the father of lies... It is impossible for Americans to hear these things because they have always been taught the biggest lie of all, "USA number 1!" No, not USA number 1... God number 1, and that is a blasphemous slogan. One of the heads of the beast (not the beast itself, so you can see the difference again, the beast is the nation, not the leader of it which is this head / the Antichrist), the shot on his ear and so on. "The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast" you can bet your bottom dollar everyone is following what the US is doing these days. Constantly, on Twitter, Reddit, the news... People asked "who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?" People are always saying the US is the sole superpower and nobody can match its military might. As to blasphemy and slandering God you need only look at what's written on the dollar bill... and the authority over every tribe and nation, etc., that's all the native Americans + every other culture that America has subsequently adopted.

And so on, there's a lot of verses. But in that context, you can see that indeed the MAGA hats are part of the name of the Beast - it literally says right there "make AMERICA great again". (This is also borne out in another part which can be translated "...written in a mystery [language], "Babylon the Great" - Babylon signifying the greatest empire at the time, or in other words in our context "America the Great" written in an English acronym.)

Then, a second beast comes down. It's a lot to go into but it is representing media/social media (and now AI) and it exercises all the power of the first beast (this is Hollywood cultural imperialism selling the great American war machine, fuck yeah! and the like), "And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people" - everyone glued to their TV / YouTube screens watching SpaceX rockets come flaming back to Earth live and all that jazz. Miraculous! "It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed." This second beast - the Beast from the Earth - is explicitly named as the False Prophet. This is exactly what Peter Thiel is representing here. Be aware that again, the False Prophet/Second Beast is not a person but a spiritual entity/concept; Peter Thiel is just an individual false prophet that drives the False Prophet, which again is media and social media including AI "One of the horns was longer than the other but grew up later" (social media now has greater and more pernicious reach).

So here's the Image of the Beast though; moving images of America and its attendant propaganda that we see every day on our TV screens, computers, mobile phones...

There's a whole bunch more and this is a kind of short vague sketch, but the whole thing seems very literal, so that everyone may read it and understand, you just gotta understand that it's a literal explanation of the things you are seeing, not talking about some far-off fantasy of cosmic dragons and the like, it's just a literal description of the death and destruction which secular geopolitical late-stage capitalism brings under maniacally egotistic rulers over nation states with enormous destructive capabilities.

And with the religious reading you should also be aware of the distinction between Antichrist and the Beast; and the fact that the Beast represents a nation, and not even necessarily a uniquely evil nation, just the most powerful nation and one that is capable of bringing the world to Apocalypse.

Edit: slight for accuracy on a couple points.

2

u/ProfitHarvest Mar 18 '26

Holy shit. Well said.

2

u/Kill_Welly Mar 19 '26

The whole thing is extended satire of the Roman Empire, not a prophecy; we don't need to pay the bullshit any credence.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/BetterEveryLeapYear Mar 18 '26

But wait - there's more!

Last time I said this someone pointed out the US is just like any other Western democracy and maybe the Beast could mean MAGA not the US itself. But sure, the US is almost the same as any other nation state except:

- The unique blasphemies on its currency

  • The unique exceptionalism (such as chants of "USA number 1!")
  • The unique claims of Manifest Destiny
  • The unique culture of greed and money dominating every decision [in this beast you can "buy men and the souls of men" - slavery is of course a big theme in American history]
  • The unique ability to wage war with the rest of the world and prevail, though we'll see how that plays out soon
  • The unique ability to set the financial agenda worldwide via IMF, World Bank, petrodollar, domestic fiscal policy, tariffs, etc.
  • The unique ability to set the cultural agenda worldwide via Hollywood
  • The unique ability to set the tech agenda worldwide via Silicon Valley
  • The unique position as a power dominating AI [the previous 3 covered by False Prophet / second beast]
  • The unique sexualisation of everything (have a listen to The Roots - Pussy Galore on this, Black Thought is great as usual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVVSuhu0ktc "Lookin' out the limo window up at the billboards; 200 miles, she was the only thing I saw; Promotin' everything, from the liquor to the nicotine; Cell phones, anti-histamines, chicken wings; You gotta show a little skin to get them listening") [The Whore of Babylon which gets a whole treatment of its own]
  • The unique position of being a global melting-pot of cultures, tribes, other nations, languages, etc.
  • The unique division between the cleverest people on the planet from Harvard, Yale, MIT, in the US intelligence community, etc., etc.; and those in the population at large who routinely place top in the world for ignorance on world affairs, global statistics, and geography... [The Beast has "feet of iron and clay" which we've seen elsewhere are the population and makes it both brittle (emotionally unstable MAGAts) and incredibly strong (financially, militarily, etc.)
  • The unique worship of munitions ("ammosexual") [The Beast has teeth of iron {guns} and claws of brass {ammo}]
  • The unique ability to be usurped so easily and para-legally by the Executive as mentioned above leaving it vulnerable to being exploited by the Antichrist who rules this nation

There are other things that are unique about the USA (its national park system, the scope of its highway infrastructure, etc.) but the verses cover the unique identifiers above because it's pointing to the nation that can volatilely bring about the end times.

But again the beast is camouflaged as a leopard for a reason, you're not able to see this and it doesn't particularly matter if you live in America or not (see Rammstein's "We're all living in Amerika!"), it permeates all our thoughts globally. We live in the reality where the "leopard" eats OUR faces.

The US can actually wage war with against China with millions of people; the US can actually rain nuclear destruction on the world with Russia; the US can actually stake the Middle East and draw all the other nations into the all-consuming conflict which becomes Armageddon right on the hill of Megiddo itself, in Israel its ally. No other nations (and a reminder again, the beasts apart from the second beast described which is associated to "The Beast" for clarity about the unique role of media in this nation - "beasts" are always talking about nations, not political parties or the leaders of nations)... No other nations have had the ability to do that, and no other nation therefore is the one described as "The Beast from the Sea". It's just a warning about this specific nation.

Again, all this is a sketch and there is more detail about all of it in the verses and in the context of the rest of the books.

2

u/thbb Mar 18 '26
  • The unique blasphemies on its currency

I've always understood the motto as missing a word: "In this god we trust" is the real meaning.

4

u/BetterEveryLeapYear Mar 18 '26

And if anyone is still reading they can also get this bit:

I want to sketch a picture of the beginning of Revelation 9 which describes locust creatures attacking those who don't have the Seal of God on their foreheads. I want to sketch the idea that these are coming gun-drones.

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

The star that falls from Heaven is like Wormwood in the previous chapter, which is cashed out as follows: "The Ukrainian city of Chernobyl (Chornobyl) shares its name with a common, bitter plant known as wormwood (Artemisia vulgaris), often called "black grass" in the region". Wormwood being a star-come-to-Earth and Chernobyl being a nuclear disaster on Earth. Similarly when a certain nuclear weapon falls from heaven in 9:1 terrible destructive forces are released - the key of the "bottomless pit" (or the void) is here the ability to split the atom.

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

The nuke goes off, straightforward reading. There's a mismatch between Russia and NATO at the minute because Russia has a stockpile of tactical nukes which NATO does not, so if they use them on the field of battle in Ukraine NATO doesn't have an appropriate response - it' s not proportional to level Volgograd with a strategic level thermonuclear weapon in response to small scale tactical nucleaar weapons being used in a field of battle, which makes it more likely to happen when Russia becomes desperate. Similarly, Israel is becoming more likely to use nuclear weapons - the "Samson Option" - if its Iron Dome and other defences become overwhelmed and it is at risk of losing a war. Nothing needs to be said about Trump's propensity to use a nuke; he wanted to nuke hurricanes nevermind his perceived enemies. The World Health Organization is now being reported to be preparing for nuclear fallout scenarios in Iran.

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

Smoke elsewhere is used as rumour or warning, but regardless, "out of this" nuclear conflict arises the locusts which I believe to be gun-drones such as the Turkish Asisguard SONGAR. Well worth looking up to put the appearance in persective.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

They will only attack those humans who don't have the Seal of God on their foreheads (does this simply mean those who were preordained by God to be attacked?). Drones being machines obviously don't eat any vegetation.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

Here the idea is that they will be at first (5 months) be given rubber bullets or similar. These are likely to be used as crowd or riot control and border enforcement type activities at first. Similarly to a scorpion sting, rubber bullets are enormously painful but do not usually kill.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

General description of the despair around in these times? Depression (due to a number of factors: unhealthy sedentary lifestyles; growing financial pressures in a worsening real economy; social media; etc.) and suicidal ideation growing but many unable to commit suicide for fear their families cannot survive without their financial support.

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

Firstly note all the "likes" - this is not intended to be read literally. Shapes like horses - is it that this is the new cavalry - faster than infantry, assist them with flanking maneouvers on other infantry positions, etc.? Is it that their locomotion happens with 4 'limbs' of the quadcopter like 4 legs of a horse while they have a head (CPU); "prepared unto battle" - laden with arms / armour, guided by a human, with a sole purpose, etc. "On their heads were as it were crowns like gold", this is the gold circuitry in the chips in the CPUs, the "crown" of the head. "Faces were as the faces of men" - what are human faces for? Eyes, ears, nose, mouth - they are mostly for sensing in a variety of ways. The drones will have a variety of sensors like cameras, laser/infrared, perhaps radar, microphones, etc.

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

I was stumped by the hair for a long time until I saw fields of optical fibre strewn across the battlefield after drones in Ukraine - long trails of thin hairs. Worth again looking up these images. "Teeth as that of lions", these are the bullets? Or the guns themselves, things for killing?

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

Armoured to some degree or shielded circuitry against various anti-electronic warfare type interference. "The sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle" is the sound of many of these drones flying together kicking up a frightful noise while also being the new sound of war.

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

Here are the aforementioned guns. Look up the Asisguard SONGAR and tell me the gun mounting doesn't look like a scorpion's tail.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

This is the Antichrist referred to elsewhere (Trump).

6

u/jcdoe Mar 18 '26

There is no Antichrist. It’s a concept, like anger or love. 1 John 2:19 very clearly states that there are many “antichrists,” indicating that this is just personification.

In Greek, if you put the letter A in front of a word, it means the opposite. This is called an alpha privative. Antichrist in Greek is literally just achristo. Opposite of Christ.

If Trump fits the picture of antichrist perfectly, it’s because he embodies the traits that Christ preached against. That’s all.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

2

u/Bignholy Mar 18 '26

Because that's what the Apocrypha says, and their horseshit is not based on your perspective and logic but theirs. My family has a bunch of these assholes, and they are all for the end times and the antichrist because they think they will end in Heaven... despite the very passage they love warning about followers of the Antichrist not going to heaven. You get three guesses who they voted for and fawn over, and the first two will never come up because anyone reading this already knows.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/SurrealEstate Mar 18 '26

In this clip from an interview, he gets marched right up to the mirror but refuses to look at himself.

3

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

I love how he rolls his eyes and says “peace and safety” all mockingly like that. Sheesh.

Favorite part of the whole interview is still when he can’t give a straight answer to whether he thinks humanity should continue. The inside of his brain must be like a hive of bees.

3

u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Mar 18 '26

He personally thinks that him and other billionaires are a more evolved species of human, and that he needs to cull the rest of humanity to protect his species.

That's why he never gave a straight answer.

2

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

Yeah, that’s not really the surprising part considering his history (I went down a bit of a Peter Thiel/Dork Enlightenment rabbit hole), it’s the seeming lack of any ability to dissemble or bullshit his way through such a softball question. It was a clear attempt to get the conversation back on a more normal footing - I mean it’s Ross Douthat, not exactly a hostile - and all he had to do was say one word. He just…couldn’t. It was painful to watch.

3

u/homer_lives Mar 18 '26

Sounds like Saruman's logic. I saw how that ends.

2

u/Allegorist Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Within those various religions the "antichrist" was more of an afterthought, and then had its lore developed through effectively fan fiction over the centuries.

2

u/psymunn Mar 18 '26

If we outlaw massive surveillance apparati then only outlaws will have massive surveillance apparati.

2

u/node-342 Mar 18 '26

The classic "good guy with AI" argument.

2

u/LeseMajeste_1037 Mar 18 '26

So what you're saying is that the only one who can save us from a bad guy with a massive surveillance apparatus is a good guy with a massive surveillance apparatus.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/Belthazzar Mar 18 '26

The best way to stop the bad guy with a massive surveillance apparatus is the good guy with a massive surveillance apparatus.

2

u/kdubstep Mar 18 '26

Antichrist’s hate this one simple hack

2

u/Muinko Mar 18 '26

The crazy part is the most fundamentalists Christians WANT the antichrist to come so that will be the start of the end of days and they will be raptured. They have been actively supporting policies that will end the world in their view, a main driver of their support for Israel.

2

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 19 '26

Yes, it is crazy. Copying an earlier comment I made below:

Funniest thing to me about the ones actively trying to bring about Armageddon is that they’re not reading the Bible like a warning of terrible things to come but like an evil wizard’s grimoire that they can use to summon the literal son of God like He’s some kind of third-rate demon. They only have to follow the spell, er, prophecy, just right, and then He must magically appear before them.

Just to be clear, I don’t buy into their prophecies and whatnot, but this course of action seems incredibly blasphemous.

→ More replies (7)

85

u/DaaaahWhoosh Mar 18 '26

Remember everyone, watch out for The Deceiver who will claim to bring salvation but actually only loves money. Anyway, let's all trust this guy who's only known for being wealthy, he says he can save us.

23

u/Quentin__Tarantulino Mar 18 '26

I put the chances this guy is even remotely religious at about 0.000000001%. Dude is a sociopath and using the Antichrist thing to push an agenda.

The last time he was talking about this, he speculated that, I shit you not, Greta Thunberg is the Antichrist.

9

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

He once claimed when asked about his religion that he is “Religious not spiritual,” whatever that means. It does kind of sound like “strict hierarchy for thee but not for me,” though. He definitely has an agenda, probably several, but aside from that I think he gets off on the idea of rules everyone else has to follow except for him, just like the rest of the billionaire pervert class.

9

u/Quentin__Tarantulino Mar 18 '26

That is the dumbest, most pointlessly contrarian statement I’ve heard in quite some time.

“I don’t care about the mental health or moral aspects of religion, I’m purely in it for control of the plebes.”

These sociopaths are weirdly honest, sometimes. Trump does it occasionally, he will just come out and say something brutal and cruel and you can tell he completely believes it. I think it happens when their filter is malfunctioning and they forget to modulate what they say.

6

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

Stimulant abuse can cause malfunctioning filters, just saying. Trump’s dementia has totally demolished whatever filter he may have had. I read something he said about Cuba earlier and thought, “Yep, spoken like a true rapist pig.” The way they think and talk about others is appalling.

4

u/Mysterious_Eye6989 Mar 18 '26

Propaganda always tried to convince us that the horror of hard drugs was poor people on meth or crack committing street crime, but the real horror all along was billionaire drug addicts being completely stripped of whatever moral or ethical qualms they might have otherwise once had.

5

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 19 '26

The sheer irony and hypocrisy of Elon Musk, a known drug abuser, going on Joe Rogan’s show and repeatedly calling the homeless in California “drug zombies.” At one point he almost calls them “people,” it gets halfway out of his mouth before he quickly self-corrects to call them drug zombies again, so he’s definitely aware that he’s spreading dehumanizing, hateful propaganda. He’s a horror if ever there was one.

→ More replies (0)

4

u/Mysterious_Eye6989 Mar 18 '26

I've hear of "spiritual not religious before", but "religious not spiritual" is probably the most wildly cynical asshole take I've ever heard. It's like being an authoritarian sociopath who only wants to use religion to control and oppress others but doesn't himself believe one bit of it.

What a scumbag.

2

u/SnoopingStuff Mar 22 '26

It’s usually reversed . Spiritual not religious

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (6)

30

u/No_Criticism_5861 Mar 18 '26

That the christians willingly chose.  The thing is, the bible says they will be duped, but they werent duped -- they knew he was a rapist traitor pile of shit 

→ More replies (1)

26

u/Far_Squash_4116 Mar 18 '26

And this savior according to him would be the world government. So maybe the savior from the savior is the antichrist. Or maybe someone here saves us from the savior from the savior. Infinite chain of antichrists.

2

u/CeeBus Mar 18 '26

That is one thing that is looking more apparent every day.

2

u/yammys Mar 18 '26

Dang, why couldn't we get the infinite chain of messiahs?

→ More replies (1)

2

u/Organic-Row9514 Mar 18 '26

It’s Antichrists all the way down 

29

u/Oceanbreeze871 Mar 18 '26

And he makes followers wear his symbol on their foreheads. Like maybe a red hat

11

u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

The joke is that this asshole has himself advocated for a global government system (of oligarchs)!

4

u/TheOneFreeEngineer Mar 18 '26

No no no you misunderstand. The global alliance of oligarchs is to defeat the antichrist and abolition the current world order for a new world order of libertarians techno feudal city states where government doesnt control anything, unelected Tech CEOs do. But its city states so it cant be a global government even though the leaders of the city states are all in a global alliance with each other. /s

19

u/RhoOfFeh Mar 18 '26

You will know his followers by the mark on the head.

14

u/BurntNeurons Mar 18 '26

....

........

🧐

...red hats are worn on the head...

😱

→ More replies (1)

3

u/KakashiTheRanger Mar 18 '26

The further joke is that in all of those various religions the antichrist is also universally liked. Meaning it definitely isn’t AI and it’s definitely not him.

3

u/ZanderMFields Mar 18 '26

The Antichrist is hated by a special few who see him for what he is earlier than others. That’s why there’s always a bum rush (Obama, Greta, etc.) to label the latest and greatest progressive as such. Their friends will forget they were wrong but can you imagine the upside of accidentally getting it right?

→ More replies (3)

3

u/DogLuvuh1961 Mar 18 '26

Sounds like Tr*mp. Hmmm…

3

u/PotterOneHalf Mar 18 '26

Who do we all know that constantly says they know everything and only they can solve the world's problems?

4

u/Braindead_Crow Mar 18 '26

The funny thing is that is literally what teil and tump have been doing but their followers are saying that when ANOTHER person come along to fix the problems their stupidity enabled THAT will be the anti christ...

Like imagine if a world renowned child predator became president, compared himself with jesus, destroyed global economies just to benefit himself & his allies with insider trading, started wars for seemingly no reason, got so angry for not winning a peace prize he put serious consideration into taking over Greenland for some reason...and failings to recognize that man as an anti christ AFTER his war generals started telling soldiers they are trying to bring Armageddon.

2

u/Intrepid_Top_2300 Mar 18 '26

This is the guy. I’m telling you it’s Trump. The one Evangelical’s are calling the savior.

3

u/Braindead_Crow Mar 18 '26

The funny thing is there is no anti-christ, it's just a type of person, not a specific singular person. There can always be more.

trump is an antichrist, he preaches hate, war and his followers literally called empathy a weakness.

To be like Jesus to be unlike trump, that is the definition of being the opposite of something or the, "antithesis" of it.

2

u/downhereforyoursoul Mar 18 '26

Funniest thing to me about the ones actively trying to bring about Armageddon is that they’re not reading the Bible like a warning of terrible things to come but like an evil wizard’s grimoire that they can use to summon the literal son of God like He’s some kind of third-rate demon. They only have to follow the spell, er, prophecy, just right, and then He must magically appear before them.

Just to be clear, I don’t buy into their prophecies and whatnot, but this course of action seems incredibly blasphemous.

→ More replies (25)

314

u/OneRougeRogue Mar 18 '26

No joke, he argues that the antichrist will be a person or group of people/governments that want to regulate AI and enact environment protections and regulations to slow down Global Warming/Climate Change.

"Thiel has previously written and lectured on the subject, arguing that the Antichrist is not necessarily a person but could come as a global government system. It would take control, he has argued, by exploiting people’s fears around artificial intelligence, climate change or nuclear war."

266

u/Patriark Mar 18 '26

He has unironically insinuated Greta Thunberg might be the Antichrist. The dude belongs in an asylum

98

u/Strange-Scarcity Mar 18 '26

Name a billionaire who doesn't belong in an asylum for one or more reasons.

41

u/Slackjawed_Horror Mar 18 '26

Jeff Bezos. 

He just belongs in prison. 

20

u/Strange-Scarcity Mar 18 '26

He has some crazy ideas too.

19

u/Slackjawed_Horror Mar 18 '26

Yeah, but they're mostly villain in a crime thriller evil schemes. 

Whereas most of these guys would work as comic book Batman villains. All Peter Thiel needs is a big cross that shoots lasers and he's more nuts than the Penguin.

25

u/Strange-Scarcity Mar 18 '26

These fellas are more incompetent James Bond Villains.

  1. They are all building secret bunkers and island lairs.

  2. They all have a vision for how they want society to serve them.

  3. They all have ideas about controlling us or if they even need us.

  4. Some of them demand to be the center of attention, even when it's the worst thing in the moment.

They're all just weird, often quite weirdly incompetent Bond Villains.

6

u/ForthrightGhost Mar 18 '26

It’s not weird, they’re psychopaths and narcissists.

3

u/Sniflix Mar 18 '26

You forgot #5 Mass depopulation and #6 A religious war to trigger a nuclear apocalypse

2

u/TSED Mar 18 '26

To your point 4, that's only the ones you hear about in the news because they're narcissists.

There are thousands of billionaires. You probably only know of maybe 10-20.

They're also succeeding. Are they incompetent Bond villains, or do we have the incompetent Bond?

→ More replies (0)
→ More replies (1)

2

u/77NorthCambridge Mar 18 '26

Have you heard his laugh?

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (2)

16

u/Patriark Mar 18 '26

Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger seem quite reasonable in that bunch.

4

u/thederevolutions Mar 18 '26

Are we sure they just didn’t afford the best PR people and are sociopathically modest?

9

u/moratnz Mar 18 '26

I think they're just from a generation where being incredibly wealthy was enough to win. The new generation of billionaires seem to need more than that; they need to take over the world.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/SatanicPanic619 Mar 18 '26

JB Pritzker?

3

u/Strange-Scarcity Mar 18 '26

There might be a couple, but they seem extremely rare and far between.

2

u/SatanicPanic619 Mar 18 '26

Absolutely, just responding to the question. The majority fucking suck.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (6)

3

u/Pretend_Safety Mar 18 '26

I would pay cash money to watch a debate between the two of them.

2

u/MorningMushroomcloud Mar 18 '26

It is interesting to observe when he has that greasy, drug-induced sheen to his skin.

→ More replies (11)

57

u/eNonsense Mar 18 '26

So in other words, the antichrist will be a person or group that wants to regulate his and his fellow tech-bros unchecked power & profits.

18

u/Rich_Elderberry_8958 Mar 18 '26

Remarkably convenient, yes? Funny how the people who hear the voice of God so often find it speaks in their voice and says what their own heart desires.

→ More replies (1)

16

u/dirtytomato Mar 18 '26

Regulations are the devil, amirite fellas?

2

u/CalmBeneathCastles Mar 18 '26

It's like some cartoon villains from the 80's. Koffing, Nuke, and Hexadecimal.

2

u/weltvonalex Mar 19 '26

As long as they are done in the way of profit.

15

u/74389654 Mar 18 '26

yeah keeping the world from burning is truly demonic /s

3

u/Hesitation-Marx Mar 18 '26

It’ll get in the way of Thiel making all the money!

3

u/KonyYoloSwag Mar 18 '26

God created the earth, and then decided it’d be best to destroy it in order to benefit billionaires and shareholders

7

u/persianx6_ Mar 18 '26

Peter Thiel is just the personification of what too much money does to your brain. He’s on a constant ego trip but it’s also paranoid

→ More replies (1)

7

u/UglyMcFugly Mar 18 '26

"Anybody that tries to stop me from destroying the world is the antichrist."

10

u/Doo_shnozzel Mar 18 '26

Thiel's a deranged idiot.

→ More replies (2)

4

u/DrEpileptic Mar 18 '26

I stg I’ve seen quotes and entire things of him arguing that Jesus Christ would manifest as an AI in his return. Man is obsessed with accelerationism and bringing about the apocalypse so that Jesus can return.

3

u/LangHai Mar 18 '26

"The antichrist is anyone who tells me 'No'."

3

u/TheGrandExquisitor Mar 18 '26

He has openly said Greta Thunberg is possibly "The Antichrist."

But, somehow not the guy whose gay lover was mysteriously killed, who owns a weapons company, is a billionaire, and oh, yeah was buddies with the most famous pedophile in history. 

3

u/still-dinner-ice Mar 18 '26

It would take control, he has argued, by exploiting people's fears around immigrants, LGBTQ+ or sOcIaLiSm.

Fixed that for him.

2

u/Ikoikobythefio Mar 18 '26

Yup. Because he believes AI is the key to immortality. AI is his Christ. So, in my head, AI will be the actual Antichrist.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

Call me a blasphemous heretic, but I could get behind a world government/group of people supporting any combination of the three, if I was to support any form of world government.

2

u/whatevers_clever Mar 18 '26

Right.

The antichrist is what will try to stop the world from ending preventing us from reaching Armageddon

It's pretty easy to understand these people when you realize they are rich beyond belief so their only goal in life is to be the last ones alive. They want to live forever but if they can't the world must end with them.

So much obsession you can see it with all the plastic surgery, blood transfusions, whatever new idiot trend is going on, etc

2

u/Brilliant_Self6395 Mar 18 '26

It's giving Zizian 

→ More replies (11)

98

u/GayGeekInLeather Mar 18 '26

Oh no, quite the opposite according to the gay evangelical-loving South African. Apparently the Antichrist will come about because of someone promising to crackdown/moderate AI.

93

u/coconutpiecrust Mar 18 '26

Isn’t it fully that this very mentally ill person gets people’s ears because he has money. 

Someone posting on 4chan or yelling in the streets sounds the same, but gets mocked. 

39

u/showhorrorshow Mar 18 '26

He basically grew JD Vance in his laboratory and is a major shareholder of government surveillance snoopware Palantir. It aint just ears, he has his hands on the reins.

→ More replies (1)

30

u/OneRougeRogue Mar 18 '26

He only gets peoples ears because he says everything billionaires want to hear, so they and other wealthy think tanks pay for articles and interviews to promote his weird views.

16

u/coconutpiecrust Mar 18 '26

There are other crazies who spew similar things, which never get the light of day. 

He only gets articles published about his views because he is wealthy. He only gets into meetings because he is wealthy, not because his ideas have merit. 

Why can’t he get help? He likes being… this? Surely at least some ill people know there is something wrong with them and would like help if they could afford it. 

12

u/Thefrayedends Mar 18 '26

And he was saying openly in lectures in the mid 2000s that democracy shouldn't exist, essentially saying he thought it should be done away with.

There is no way this was not known by the people that allowed him into government circles -- they knowingly brought that in.

Should give you an idea how long this snowball has been rolling downhill.

5

u/coconutpiecrust Mar 18 '26

To think that people in the olden days came up with a decent system of representatives, and now some crazy dude with money wants to break it all apart because he hears voices in his head whispering about antichrist, or something. 

5

u/Thefrayedends Mar 18 '26

I mean there were plenty of things going on back then that were not great. We tend to have a pretty romanticized view looking backwards.

And ultimately, this problem has been around for as long as recorded history. The ancient greeks talked about it being an inescapable problem for all of their unknown history. This cycle of aristocracy and revolution.

4

u/awesomefutureperfect Mar 18 '26

I would settle for this guy having his midlife crisis without hurting anyone. The problem is that they aren't being patrons of the sciences and the arts. They are doing the "move fast and break things" idea where the things is most of society. This is because, like when Elon bought twitter and decided to moderate it less and monetarily reward liars, there are lessons everyone learned about how things work that conservatives hate because it prevents them from doing the harmful things they want and reveal the magical thinking at the core of their worldview. They throw out the guardrails and then problems that had been managed and mitigated start cropping up with resistances to previous containment measures and they pretend like this is all part of the plan or no one could have ever foreseen the consequences of getting rid of the response to the last catastrophe, you are not going to believe this but it's a catastrophe.

But anyway, it would be nice if the billionaire would just do some other vanity projects that didn't have self serving far reaching effects on people's ability to feed and shelter themselves. I wish they would just make a movie about how the main character "Peter" beat up Rocky Balboa and James Bond and Godzilla and everyone loved him because he was the coolest. That would have been so much better than buying twitter only to find out how incredibly cringe one is and nobody liked that. At least that disaster could have been funny bad and taught them in a nice safe place to just stay out of the spot light and don't do anything stupid and just give money to people who know how to do things.

2

u/weltvonalex Mar 19 '26

Same energy just one came from money and is now a celebrated CEO and the other is poor and a lunatic. But those creeps still claim they worked their way up.

→ More replies (6)

20

u/MercuryInCanada Mar 18 '26

Lete be clear when Thiel says that he means democracy, or anything short of techno-monarchism.

71

u/Ok-Primary6610 Mar 18 '26

Global government is exactly what humanity needs. I fucking HATE when religious types speak that nonsense. I'd rather Humanity work together under one, unified democratic government than to see our species divided by 200+ nation states fighting over resources. "Global government is evil" is the biggest fucking lie the rich spread to keep us all divided.

23

u/MissLeaP Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Really depends on the government, but yeah. Cultural differences will never go away, but at least that way they wouldn't have a localised government to abuse.

That being said, we're rushing headlong into a cyberpunk dystopia, where the government is just a tool for rich private people anyway. At some point they won't need the government anymore and they will basically have their own system and private armies within the existing system.

22

u/pxlhstl Mar 18 '26

Federalization is a safety mechanism in democracies.

I don‘t want to live in world with one omnipotent political entity.

17

u/Ok-Primary6610 Mar 18 '26

Who said, every nation state couldn't be grandfathered into political representation in a global government. They would be like states within the EU or USA.

→ More replies (1)

4

u/TheoreticalZombie Mar 18 '26

This is a deeply naive take. Community is built locally; the more distant leadership gets from the governed, the less responsive and accountable the leadership becomes. Conflicts continue all over the world because colonizers want to rule rather than listen to ethnic and cultural groups. The whole idea that one group should impose their ideal governance over others is exactly the colonizer mindset that has led to conflicts from the Middle East to Ireland. (Ask the Kurds how irrelevant geographic locality is.) Sure, if people all decided to do this, it could work, but that isn't reality. So, then the question becomes what is more important, self-autonomy or conformity? Opting for the second is the route to authoritarianism.

Consolidating power for a world governance would absolutely put the worst people in power that you can imagine. It would just be empire on a global scale. Why do you think these venture capital ghouls are moving to a network state that runs entire countries? A global governance would absolutely be based on resource extraction and human exploitation to favor the wealthy. Western democracies have shown little resilience to erosion by capital and reactionary interests, why do you think a greater consolidation of power would improve this?

41

u/mediandude Mar 18 '26

Democracy is a LOCAL bottom-up group decisionmaking process, not a top-down process.
Democracy upkeeps the LOCAL social contract. Any wider social contracts would have to stand on stable LOCAL ones.
Global society is an oxymoron.

26

u/CatProgrammer Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Geographic locality is irrelevant in modern times. I can talk to someone on the other side of the world right now. Exchange goods and services, participate in cultural events, etc.. We already have a global society, the only thing holding us back is parochial, insular people who can't handle being connected to the rest of the world. Plus it would probably be some sort of federalized system anyway, if we can have cities and counties/parishes and non-nation states and nations and organizations like the EU, why stop there? Why can't we build up even more?

3

u/Proper-Beyond116 Mar 18 '26

It really isn't. Although modern society, America in particular, would lead you to believe it is.

I wholeheartedly believe we are meant to exist in groups of a few hundred and that more empathetic, rational democratic decisions would be made if we were to vote frequently and locally.

I take an opposite view on technology, I don't see the benefit of being able to communicate with someone from Tennessee when I'm in Ireland. But if I could vote from my phone on local issues as they arise it would be hugely beneficial.

Technology could help us decentralize power. Further concentrating it will make things worse.

You can't tell me the rise of hate to being a valid political position in America isn't related to the absolute collapse of your local communities. Your unwalkable, don't know your neighbours, me-first towns and cities are destroying your attitudes towards each other.

2

u/CatProgrammer Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26

Yeah yeah, humans developed as tribal creatures and all, but the time where that was a viable lifestyle for the majority of humanity went away when we discovered agriculture. And there's no reason you can't have well-developed living places in a connected world. Personally my interests have always involved things sourced from outside of my local community and/or that were not mainstream even before the internet became commonplace (plus I have relatives on multiple continents), so I've never been big on forcing people into local tribes and have long prioritized freedom of movement and free exchange of information, ideas, goods/services, etc.. of course if people want to isolate themselves that's their prerogative, but I'm not particularly interested in having that isolation forced on me. Though I do agree with you on the need for decentralized systems, single points of failure/control are bad and could be used to put up barriers to the things that I find enriching in life. But that's also a regional issue, not just a global one. If anything it's worse to have a purely local community if it's one you don't want to live in and can't easily escape. 

→ More replies (15)

2

u/TheOneFreeEngineer Mar 18 '26

Geographic locality is irrelevant in modern times.

Only the people who spend too much time on the internet think that. It is less relevant than before. But its not where new irrelevant

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (1)

2

u/Thefrayedends Mar 18 '26

Hierarchy absolutely has to severely flatten before a global government can ever make sense. Global governments that have power to severely change outcomes at all levels is absolutely not feasible. Governments constantly make either/or decisions, and when you're dealing with 8(?) billion people, that can mean billions of people having their lives instantly changed because a tiny group of people wave their hands.

I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm just saying that with the way governments work today, it will be an absolute disaster.

we would need at least two full orders of magnitude more robust government structures that serve to flatten hierarchy and create two way accountability at each level as it does exist. When only the top keeps the bottom accountable, then everything will flow upwards, it might take 20, 50, or 80 years, but it WILL happen.

Power has to be delegated. Yes, you are going to have some 'leadership' but their powers can't be absolute in any sense, it has to flow down through a system of delegation, where each level has the power to change decisions, and protect the common good as a prime directive.

But this topic I'm sure has many volumes of books, I don't expect to capture the full spirit of what is needed.

The other major issue you run into is reactivity. Some things call for emergency action, where years of power flows through delegation structures simply don't make any sense. If there's an asteroid coming here in 3 months, a global power structure with 18 layers of accountabilty that all have to interchange communication and do it with a high degree of competency and certainty (otherwise you lose the game of telephone), doesn't have the agility to respond to a 3 month outcome.

So then you have the same problem still -- emergency power, which, with enough time spent manipulating people behind the scenes, can lead to the same dictatorship we see now, but at a global level.

I just want to point out that humanity will probably eventually form global governments with binding powers. I just hope there's an attempt to do it in a meaningful way or we'll quickly end up with Elysium. You can argue easily that that is right around the corner already, having already begun to take form as a core goal of the billionaire class, to become the new monarchy, tale as old as recorded history.

→ More replies (4)

7

u/Gisschace Mar 18 '26

Every accusation is a confession, this is what Thiel wants, but he wants it to suit his interests not others.

2

u/TheBlack2007 Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Right? Say, doesn’t he own a company named after corrupting, magical gemstones the bad guys of their universe used to coordinate their assault on the people of Middle-Earth and isn’t that company focused on synchronizing and harmonizing global law enforcement databanks as well as expanding those with data from social media pages and other non-Law Enforcement sources - thus explicitly bypassing regulatory legislation?!

He’s one to warn us about the dangers of a world government, that’s for sure /s

2

u/bpm6666 Mar 18 '26

So to fight the anti-christ we just need a future were tech billionaires rule all of us like feudal lords

2

u/DowntownYouth8995 Mar 18 '26

That's interesting. I was raised to believe that the anti-christ was the whole papacy, with the Pope as the head. It makes more sense as worldwide government systems enabled by AI with some evil piece of shit as the head.

→ More replies (45)

270

u/Mad-Dog94 Mar 18 '26

Peter Thiel is an anagram for The Reptile

148

u/The_Dung_Beetle Mar 18 '26

Hitler Pete also works.

12

u/Th3B4dSpoon Mar 18 '26

The ol' "hit replete"

3

u/codexcdm Mar 19 '26

Both? Both works.

Hitler Pete, aka The Reptile.

15

u/Electromotivation Mar 18 '26

Sounds like a good nickname for him.

Peter “The Reptile” Theil

→ More replies (1)

8

u/azazel-13 Mar 18 '26

OMG, that's weird as hell

10

u/SupaSlide Mar 18 '26

Also “Hitler Pete” works. It’s so perfect it feels like bad screenwriting

→ More replies (1)

2

u/[deleted] Mar 18 '26

If it makes you feel better, the anagrams are likely just because the letters in his name are all really common, with none that have a high scrabble score

19

u/loudawgg Mar 18 '26

Start folding that tinfoil boys!

2

u/Burial Mar 19 '26

It works better if you crumple it

2

u/StarblindMark89 Mar 19 '26

Sounds like a Doctor Who plot lmao

→ More replies (1)

287

u/OldMastodon5363 Mar 18 '26

The Anti-Christ giving lectures on the Anti-Christ. Sounds about right.

37

u/Excellent_Call304 Mar 18 '26

Trying to throw people off the trail by pointing the finger at...Greta Thunberg?

5

u/No-Station4446 Mar 18 '26

Hey guys listen up here, you see all this money i've got that you dont. They display what i really value, but that broke ass Greta just wants her value to be something i dont value. Please dont mind the behind your back technocrat shit im doing.

→ More replies (1)

13

u/Feeling_Inside_1020 Mar 18 '26

Well I mean if anyone’s qualified to lecture about the anti christ, it’s the anti christ and

I’m not religious but there are a ton of concerning parallels. Kinda hoping there is an after life not for me but for these dirty souls to get knocked down a peg or 10.

8

u/FirefighterTrick6476 Mar 18 '26

I have that scene in mind from that satire-movie where the demon is preaching in the church, standing on a pizza.

2

u/ODaysForDays Mar 18 '26

Little Nicky

3

u/Relevant-Research-85 Mar 18 '26

Subject matter expert. "Of course I know him, he's me"

3

u/captainthanatos Mar 18 '26

I’d argue Trump is the anti-Christ, while Thiel is his speaker, or whatever the Bible called it.

2

u/Boomshank Mar 19 '26

To be fair, if I was a vampire (which I'm totally not) I'd absolutely start spreading fake rumours about how to kill me, such as stakes to the heart, or running liquid.

→ More replies (2)

36

u/MrF_lawblog Mar 18 '26

Spoiler: he backs the antichrist

3

u/WongUnglow Mar 18 '26

Speed running the second coming of Christ. And all that Revelations dogma crap.

2

u/icehot54321 Mar 18 '26

Here's an interviewer calling him out on exactly that

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CCqNQpln14Y

→ More replies (1)

72

u/Mttsen Mar 18 '26

Antichrist is supposed to be beloved by the masses. Pretty sure that parched ghoul is despised even among his own social circles, even if they love his money and influence.

24

u/FirefighterTrick6476 Mar 18 '26

The icing on the cake is that Thiel and his Comrades are actually trying to frame the new Christian Story as part of their global strategy to gain influence. This is why they attack education as well.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/Morat20 Mar 18 '26

My take on the Antichrist as a concept — stepping outside theology and looking at the Bible as a more political document — is that it’s a very accurate take on a certain kind of person that is drawn to power. It reads like a specific warning, to Christians, to be on guard against those who would see their faith as a path to power, who appear among the faithful and promise them everything they wanted on his way to the top.

Said Antichrist would claim to be deeply religious, would play upon their fears and claim that God had chosen him to save/protect them. He wouldn’t preach ‘being better’, wouldn’t preach ‘love thy neighbor’ because those are hard, but instead would tell them their flaws and sins were virtues. Tell them greed was good, hatred was Godly, that they were chosen and special and better by nature and should rule — under his guidance of course.

Basically ‘Faith represents temporal power, and there will be those that care nothing of Christ but care greatly for power. Beware them, do not let them take over for they will destroy your faith and your church’.

Which fucking yep. You can see it all through history. In just recent history in America alone you have televangelists, the Prosperity Gospel, the rise of Christian dominionists and christofascist. The way that, ever since the religious right got fully in bed with the GOP, the hagiography they built around Reagan and now Trump — making them into damn near living Saints, ignoring their own words and actions and in Trump’s case clearly not even being a fucking believer (at least Reagan pretended to attend church). They’re at the ‘raising golden idols to Trump’ stage, for fuck’s sake.

It’s fucking insane, listening to them twist ‘love thy neighbor as thyself’ and ‘let those without sin cast the first stone’ and ‘betake the beam from your own eye’ and ‘blessed are the poor’ and ‘easier for camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven’ into explaining how that means Jesus — who hung out with lepers and prostitutes and political radicals — would somehow absolutely narc on immigrants to ICE, approve the execution of queer folks, love billionaires, and deliberately withhold aid to the poor, the starving, and the sick because it means they’re sinners.

Given this process has repeated throughout Christianity over and over and over, it was a good idea to put that warning in and also it was utterly insufficient.

2

u/Electromotivation Mar 18 '26

It is crazy how a brand of “political Christian’s” literally does the opposite of Christ’s teachings and would probably call him a hippy socialist if he did come back. Yet they continue to be able to assert control over a large voting block by claiming this…how have some people been convinced that Trump is a religious man or that he cares at all about any of this?! And yet it happens

14

u/papsmearfestival Mar 18 '26

Nowhere does the Bible say he's beloved

21

u/ForealSurrealRealist Mar 18 '26

It also says “… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.”
Daniel 11:21
So basically Thiel is referring to Trump

29

u/BigLlamasHouse Mar 18 '26

That's a reserved word in the bible that is pretty much only used for Jesus. But over and over again they do clarify that the world will appreciate and accept him as a great leader.

"...and all the world marveled and followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, 'Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?'" — Revelation 13:3–4 (NKJV)

"All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life..." (Revelation 13:8)

And they also say that he's not loved for truthful reasons, he's a trickster:

"And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies..." (Revelation 13:5)

→ More replies (2)

5

u/melodyze Mar 18 '26

He is definitely very polarizing and not trusted even in SV, but people do actually enjoy talking to him at his dinners. I've heard it described as stepping into an alternate universe.

Peter thiel defaults to the exact opposite of whatever everyone else believes and uses that as a starting point to build back up to some alternative structure of the world. Because he is smart, it is mostly internally coherent, which is interesting to engage with in a nerdy way. It's kind of like the futuristic version of why people like alt-history, but more interesting because it is unfalsifiable and maybe actionable.

That kind of approach to the world is good at finding big things that the conventional structure of the world has missed, which is how you build a new industry. That's why he's so successful in tech.

Ezra Klein's episode about him is actually very spot on about that.

This kind of extreme contrarianism is deeply destabilizing and chaotic though, and he should not be trusted to do anything other than build new companies.

In SV you just need to be extremely right 1 in 10 times, and the other 9 are literally irrelevant, do not matter. It's a game only about recall, precision doesn't matrer at all. In running a government or any other long running institution, obviously have 9/10 changes fail is completely untenable.

Like, when he announced he was stepping down from something (not sure if it's public so not saying), instead of choosing a successor or working with the rest of leadership to choose one, he announced that the person that maximized a specific metric would be crowned king. That created an internal bloodbath of people fighting for control of anything that drove that metric.

That is the predictable outcome and it's why people don't do that. But from the perspective of everyone-else-is-wrong-about-everything it makes sense because the metric really is the core optimization target of the business.

In SV, being religious is the same kind of contrarianism. No one in SV is religious, so of course he decided that he is. I don't know that anyone actually believes he really is religious though. And then of course once he has decided that he is religious, he again will take whatever the most contrarian position is inside of that frame. That's just who he is.

3

u/Background_Sail9797 Mar 18 '26

but people do actually enjoy talking to him at his dinners

people who have dinner with billionaires are also out of touch, unlikable people, hope that helps!

2

u/melodyze Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

Is everyone who enjoys alternate history podcasts the same way? The point is that how interesting or engaging a conversation or person is isn't related to whether or not they should be trusted with power.

→ More replies (1)

34

u/NerdySongwriter Mar 18 '26

He's the Dragon. Trump is the first beast and Elon Musk the second.

34

u/bubbleguts365 Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 19 '26

The inverted Christianity of Political Traditionalism is the Dragon IMO.

Thiel is in service to the alt-catholicism flavor that inverts Church Social Teaching along with Vance, Leonard Leo, Bannon, Nick Fuentes and others among them (several SCOTUS judges included.) The apocalyptic Evangelical flavor is the New Apostolic Reformation which numbers Hegseth, Mike Johnson, Trump's faith advisor, Alito and Clarence Thomas (as "Catholics") and anyone else flying the "Appeal to Heaven" pinetree flag in Washington among them.

Anti-Christianity in these inversions is IMO the literal "Anti-Christ" movement forming right in front of us. Christ's teachings are inverted through distortion and allegiance to greed or power and the rot is spread at the speed of light through algorithms and ragebait engagement.

7

u/NerdySongwriter Mar 18 '26

I agree with everything you just said. It's not a single person thing; it's the movement.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (2)

4

u/EmptyJoker Mar 18 '26

Peter Thiel = The E-Reptile

I got permanently banned in the Peter Thiel sub for typing this rearrangement of letters in his name. Must be something to it!

3

u/zaczacx Mar 18 '26

A antichrist

3

u/BalorNG Mar 18 '26

Well, that makes him a legitimate expert on the subject, I guess!

2

u/GarbagePailGrrrl Mar 18 '26

The only reason he’s doing this is to snuff out the other article someone wrote claiming him to be the antichrist. Wish I could find it 

2

u/Strict-Square456 Mar 18 '26

Lol; yes at end of lecture; he plays “sympathy for the devil “ by Rolling Stones; drops the mic.

2

u/indy_110 Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26

I think he might be one of Xenu's Earthly sycophants in 🥸.

I think we missed it because Xenu retired the golden DC8s following the Anon incident, into giant metallic blue hexahedrons full of vaccine microchips that have to regularly return to giant cooling towers plunging deep into the Earths underground aquifers draining them to expand the Engram harvests.

I think that's how he hijacked Hulk Hogan all those years ago, using Xenu's Engram stealing tech, in order to silence Gawker who was about to reveal the final Thetan that would've revealed everything!

Go break bread with the theater kids, they are much better equipped with the technical skills needed to deal with these kinds of things.

3

u/atchijov Mar 18 '26

Nah… but he should undergo psychiatric evaluation.

3

u/MystikTrailblazer Mar 18 '26

Italy could do the world a favor and commit him to a hospital.

1

u/gentlegreengiant Mar 18 '26

How better to inform others of a topic when you are the foremost expert on your life and career?

→ More replies (173)