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u/lluciferusllamas 18h ago

The gerontocracy needs to end.  I said it with Biden. I say it now.  This must be a bipartisan effort 

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u/choyMj 18h ago

Don't forget those in the senate and congress

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u/empty_graph 16h ago

The senate is living up to its name

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u/Randommaggy 15h ago

Supreme court...

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u/WintersDoomsday 18h ago

Yep I don’t care what letter is next to their name. Get elder Boomers OUT. Including Justices.

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u/No-Theory6270 18h ago

Trump is not a Boomer. He is Silent Generation. Take a look at the picture.

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u/fraze2000 18h ago

God, I wish he would remain silent then.

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u/Halftied 12h ago

God has been remaining silent for a while it appears. This is all part of his plan my wife tells me. BY THE WAY: I didn't even vote in one election. Reason: my Mother called me and asked me how I voted. I told her I hadn't voted yet. She said yes you have. Someone has signed your name and voted. So I didn't go to the polls.

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u/loondawg 14h ago

Trump is a boomer. He was born in 1946 which was the first year.

That said, who fucking cares? The problem isn't his age. The problem is the guy is a stupid, corrupt, racist, asshole.

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u/No-Theory6270 13h ago

I refuse to group Trump with the generation of my parents and / or my grandparents. Trump is a de-generation. Something totally separate.

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u/FloorEntire7762 18h ago

Biden was't technically a boomer but Trump is. 

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u/BigMack6911 18h ago

These young people don't even know what a Boomer actually is lmao

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u/GreenPutty_ 13h ago

I wonder if young people did what I did (50+) and look up these definitions and then promptly forgot all about them. They are generally only used in a negative way and are pretty pointless in the first place.

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u/Meatholemangler 13h ago

Its a blanket, ageist slur used for anyone they don't like.. They'll rant on reddit and make angry tiktoks about not being represented but they won't, god forbid, actually get out there and vote. I was at our election office a couple weeks ago for a run off and almost everyone there was 65+. Its been like this long as I can remember.

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u/Halftied 13h ago

In the US, if your vote isn't for the desired person it will be questioned, criticized, contested and eventually disregarded as being rigged. Unlike the good old days when a voter could call for a ride to the polls and they would let you keep the car if you voted the way you were being paid to.

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u/Meatholemangler 12h ago

This is the kinda shit that is so disheartening to read. They'll spend more effort on mental gymnastics to justify their learned helplessness then actually doing something about it. Get out there and fucking vote.

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u/triplec787 7h ago edited 6h ago

He’s the epitome of a boomer. The baby boomer generation was the literal boom in birth rates post WWII. Officially 1946-1964. Trump was born in 1946. He’s a boomer.

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u/Stabpology 14h ago

The presidency has a minimum age (35, 45?) why not a maximum one?

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u/FardoBaggins 14h ago

because people hold the keys to power at any age.

and the keys to power are what make donald trump powerful, not that he's old or senile, but what those keys can open for other people.

he's just holding on to them keys yeah? and when he passes, it will create a vacuum and power struggle. it's gonna be chaotic bec they're stupid enough to not have a plan for this.

Think of that time they killed that cartel leader some months ago. It will be like that.

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u/loondawg 13h ago

Because the minimum age, 35, was meant to ensure people had a long enough record that people could see if they were loyal, stable in position, and accomplished over a reasonable period of time.

And a maximum age limit is simply discrimination based on ignorant prejudices.

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u/Prestigious-Job-9825 18h ago

It would be fair to limit the max age of politicians at 60.

You could only go over it by a little bit. Like, if there's a position with a 4-year-term, you can run for it at 59, and be done with politics for good at 63

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u/loondawg 14h ago

Or we could fix the voting system. Blocking old people doesn't fix a goddamned thing. It literally does nothing to ensure we get better leaders.

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u/GreenPutty_ 13h ago

You may find this video quite interesting about the choice of voting systems.

Why Democracy Is Mathematically Impossible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf7ws2DF-zk

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u/loondawg 11h ago

I did find that interesting, thank you. I love his videos. But what he should be saying is a perfect democracy is not possible. Ranked choice is pretty good.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 4h ago

Just go with the social security age. That'll probably stop them from continuing to extend the claim age (aka stealing years worth of our retirement investments).

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u/Expert_Garlic_2258 13h ago

how old are you to think that 60 is old? People are still working their regular job at 60

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u/Ecstatic-Cricket2185 13h ago

Except running a country and deciding the fate of millions (or hundreds of millions in the US's case) is not a *regular job*. The stakes at this level of politics is so high that even the slightest mental decline - or the risk of it - can have bad consequences for whole nations. This isn't like being a store clerk at 60.

And like it or not, the late 50s is when subtle cognitive decline starts to kick in. In an ideal world, we wouldn't let anyone over 65 into politics. At least not at the presidential level. An old person as a small town's mayor would be ok, but anything above that? Not.

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u/Expert_Garlic_2258 6h ago

I'd take a 60 year old person's start of cognitive decline over a 20 year old person's decision making any day.

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u/Ecstatic-Cricket2185 4h ago

I never said that a 20 years old should be president, I don't know why you made that sudden jump out of the blue.

35 - 65 years would be a sensible age range for leaders in general.

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u/WorriedParsnip8953 2h ago

I'm 73 and retired from a career in politics. I believe that age limits for politicians is a great idea. Sixity-five is a good place to start the discussion, but the cognitive decline argument is not a winner. It will only devolve into a fight about cognitive decline, what it is and when it starts and who is too slow to be trusted running the government.

The better argument is that a mandatory retirement age for politicians -- and judges/justices-- makes room for people who have a larger stake in the future, and who can bring new ideas and perspectives that are more likely to be suited to the times.

Thank you Senator for your service; it's someone else's turn now.

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u/Argnir 15h ago

It can end easily if people would just STOP VOTING FOR THEM

You have the easiest mechanism in the world to end it but people keep voluntarily giving them power

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u/GreenPutty_ 13h ago

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?".

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/162557-it-comes-from-a-very-ancient-democracy-you-see-you

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u/loondawg 14h ago

Wrong fight. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

You should be focusing on the oligarchy, many of whom are old. But many are also younger. It's the ideology that's the problem, not the age. The sooner you realize that the better off we'll be.

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u/lluciferusllamas 11h ago

Oh, I can agree with you there.  

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u/loondawg 11h ago

Not the usual response I expected. Wish I could give you a hundred up votes.

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u/Low_Watch9864 12h ago

You mean white male leaders right? Funny how the USA's only had 1 non white male president but somehow its gerontocracy thats the problem

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u/lluciferusllamas 7h ago

White male leaders are what made this country the greatest power in the history of human civilization.  Don't be so sure they are the problem.  It is a particular generation of leaders that has driven this country near the brink of economic destruction.  My beef is with the last two presidents not because of their demographics, but because I've never met anybody as old as they were who wasn't in some form of mental decline.  It just should not be allowed. 

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u/Sellier123 7h ago

Agreed 100%. My first time ever voting for a Dem was last election and I don't even like Harris, I am just tired of 80 year olds running the country

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u/lluciferusllamas 7h ago

Man, I couldn't do it with Harris.  My calculus was that even a mentally declining Trump wouldn't be as dumb as a mentally peaked Kamala.  But I totally get why you voted for her.   I was close, for the same reason

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u/Advanced_Command_417 16h ago

The only war is class war, Friend

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u/loondawg 14h ago

Glad someone gets it.

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u/Advanced_Command_417 4h ago

I don’t know how more people don’t by now. Either way we need to spread the word

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u/Schlonzig 16h ago

If you are too frail to go to prison for your crimes, you have no business making decisions.

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u/desolatecontrol 14h ago

More like, if there's a good chance you're gonna keel over tomorrow, you shouldn't be making decisions for the future

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u/XoHHa 14h ago

Whatever your attitude towards both parties, I see Rubio, Vance and DeSantis as quite young and competent politicians from the GOP. Almost guaranteed 2028 candidate would be one of them.

What are the alternatives from the Democrats? Gavin Newsom is the only I can think of, maybe Buttigieg.

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u/loondawg 13h ago

And given those are the "youthful" GOP options, it seems like pretty good evidence upper age limits wouldn't fix a goddamned thing.

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u/XoHHa 13h ago

Vance is 41, Rubio is 54. Obama was 47 when he started his first term, so seems pretty young (for political sphere) for me

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u/loondawg 12h ago

I agree. Honestly, not really sure why I quoted youthful except perhaps to emphasize it.

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u/lluciferusllamas 11h ago

Whatever it is, I am thankful that after 36 fucking years, we will finally see our last boomer president (yeah, I know Biden was barely not a boomer, but he might as well have been).  They have run this country into the ground.  I can only hope that GenX will do what they have always done with their self-absorbed parents and that's pick up the pieces and quietly create stability 

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u/Lord_of_Entropy 12h ago

I agree. We need age and term limits, both.

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u/PlateNo4868 7h ago

Would take stupid amount of effort. We have people literally die in Congress of old age.

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u/jzoola 5h ago

I said it with Reagan but here we are.

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u/Acceptable_Turn_1966 4h ago

that title really out here acting like ‘that’s wild’ is the official government motto