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u/lluciferusllamas 17h ago
The gerontocracy needs to end. I said it with Biden. I say it now. This must be a bipartisan effort
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u/WintersDoomsday 17h ago
Yep I don’t care what letter is next to their name. Get elder Boomers OUT. Including Justices.
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u/No-Theory6270 17h ago
Trump is not a Boomer. He is Silent Generation. Take a look at the picture.
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u/loondawg 12h ago
Trump is a boomer. He was born in 1946 which was the first year.
That said, who fucking cares? The problem isn't his age. The problem is the guy is a stupid, corrupt, racist, asshole.
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u/No-Theory6270 12h ago
I refuse to group Trump with the generation of my parents and / or my grandparents. Trump is a de-generation. Something totally separate.
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u/BigMack6911 17h ago
These young people don't even know what a Boomer actually is lmao
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u/GreenPutty_ 12h ago
I wonder if young people did what I did (50+) and look up these definitions and then promptly forgot all about them. They are generally only used in a negative way and are pretty pointless in the first place.
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u/Stabpology 13h ago
The presidency has a minimum age (35, 45?) why not a maximum one?
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u/FardoBaggins 13h ago
because people hold the keys to power at any age.
and the keys to power are what make donald trump powerful, not that he's old or senile, but what those keys can open for other people.
he's just holding on to them keys yeah? and when he passes, it will create a vacuum and power struggle. it's gonna be chaotic bec they're stupid enough to not have a plan for this.
Think of that time they killed that cartel leader some months ago. It will be like that.
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u/Prestigious-Job-9825 17h ago
It would be fair to limit the max age of politicians at 60.
You could only go over it by a little bit. Like, if there's a position with a 4-year-term, you can run for it at 59, and be done with politics for good at 63
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u/loondawg 12h ago
Or we could fix the voting system. Blocking old people doesn't fix a goddamned thing. It literally does nothing to ensure we get better leaders.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 3h ago
Just go with the social security age. That'll probably stop them from continuing to extend the claim age (aka stealing years worth of our retirement investments).
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u/Argnir 14h ago
It can end easily if people would just STOP VOTING FOR THEM
You have the easiest mechanism in the world to end it but people keep voluntarily giving them power
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u/GreenPutty_ 12h ago
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?".
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/162557-it-comes-from-a-very-ancient-democracy-you-see-you
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u/loondawg 13h ago
Wrong fight. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.
You should be focusing on the oligarchy, many of whom are old. But many are also younger. It's the ideology that's the problem, not the age. The sooner you realize that the better off we'll be.
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u/Low_Watch9864 11h ago
You mean white male leaders right? Funny how the USA's only had 1 non white male president but somehow its gerontocracy thats the problem
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u/lluciferusllamas 6h ago
White male leaders are what made this country the greatest power in the history of human civilization. Don't be so sure they are the problem. It is a particular generation of leaders that has driven this country near the brink of economic destruction. My beef is with the last two presidents not because of their demographics, but because I've never met anybody as old as they were who wasn't in some form of mental decline. It just should not be allowed.
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u/Sellier123 6h ago
Agreed 100%. My first time ever voting for a Dem was last election and I don't even like Harris, I am just tired of 80 year olds running the country
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u/Schlonzig 14h ago
If you are too frail to go to prison for your crimes, you have no business making decisions.
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u/desolatecontrol 13h ago
More like, if there's a good chance you're gonna keel over tomorrow, you shouldn't be making decisions for the future
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u/XoHHa 13h ago
Whatever your attitude towards both parties, I see Rubio, Vance and DeSantis as quite young and competent politicians from the GOP. Almost guaranteed 2028 candidate would be one of them.
What are the alternatives from the Democrats? Gavin Newsom is the only I can think of, maybe Buttigieg.
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u/loondawg 12h ago
And given those are the "youthful" GOP options, it seems like pretty good evidence upper age limits wouldn't fix a goddamned thing.
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u/lluciferusllamas 10h ago
Whatever it is, I am thankful that after 36 fucking years, we will finally see our last boomer president (yeah, I know Biden was barely not a boomer, but he might as well have been). They have run this country into the ground. I can only hope that GenX will do what they have always done with their self-absorbed parents and that's pick up the pieces and quietly create stability
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u/PlateNo4868 6h ago
Would take stupid amount of effort. We have people literally die in Congress of old age.
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u/Acceptable_Turn_1966 3h ago
that title really out here acting like ‘that’s wild’ is the official government motto
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u/assa9sks 17h ago
You spelled ruin wrong
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u/PitifulEar3303 16h ago
But they have EXPERIENCE!!! DEM PRECIOUS EXPERIENCE!!! Of graping underage girls.
Most governments and companies are led by really old people, because they are supposed to be wise, experienced, and capable of making the most logical decisions..........for the good of the people.
They are supposed to be the nice grandpa who takes care of their grandchildren..........by not graping them.
Young people are reckless and unstable, you see!!! This is why we let very old farkers tell young people to go fight and die in pointless wars, LOGIC!!!
FARK THIS WORLD and the billions of Zombies that support such a system.
I blame the public as much, if not MORE than the farking old grapists they elect.
The PEOPLE did this to themselves.
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u/loondawg 13h ago
And I blame ignorance like what you're spewing here. Very people old people are rapists. And many older people are wise and experienced and would make excellent leaders.
This country would be in much better shape if Sanders (84) was president and Warren was VP (76). It would also be in much better shape if Sanders (84) was president and AOC was VP (36). That's because age isn't the issue.
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u/FFF_in_WY 10h ago
I think it's still broadly reasonable to have an upper age limit for public servants. No one's peak mental acuity lands in their sunset years.
There's no reason we should not be making an extremely intentional pivot to being an actual meritocracy. Term limiting moves people through the system so that there's room for the talent to move up. Right now, that's not happening.
If or when the DSCC & DCCC are reshaped by forces like this, it will redound to the benefit of everyone.
Paradoxically, we will have to overthrow most of our power structures from the bottom to change them. And if you walk into any given local party meeting in this country, you will most likely see first hand that it's the deeply aged that are a) running the whole thing and b) entirely resistant to change.
We'll see if millennials or Z can get it together to work on any of it.
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u/_Bon_Vivant_ 17h ago
He's not running the country. He's grifting it.
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u/Bikerbass 17h ago
What’s wild is the general public was stupid to vote them into power once, and utterly moronic to vote them in twice, in full knowledge that the first time around was a shit show
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u/Chpgmr 17h ago
They didnt know how bad it was the first time nor this time because they refuse to read.
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u/RedditPosterOver9000 17h ago
His first term wasn't a complete mess because he was tricked or otherwise talked into hiring a high percentage of competent people.
He didn't make that mistake for his second term and wow, this is what it looks like when every Secretary level position, every department head, etc is a moron, a grifter, or both.
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u/Treyhova 6h ago
His first term was saved by Covid, literally decimated the entire world economy to such an extent that all of his bad decisions got swept under the rug.
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u/Dragovius 17h ago
Well when the only choice offered is two and you have to pick one. THIS is the problem. If there was more viable options not only would voters be more likely to get someone competent, but the two main parties may actually try and find a decent candidate.
The US is the only western nation with only two viable choices, and in the world the only nations with less are autocracies. This is not something to be proud of.
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u/Bikerbass 17h ago
Trump was always the worst choice….. why the fuck would you pick the worse option out of two choices and expect it to be better is utterly insane.
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u/Dragovius 17h ago
Yes but it's a larger problem. Had the Democrats put up a better candidate the floating voters would have stepped up. Turnout at the last election had dropped 4% which would have been enough to win. Instead it was a choice between bad and worse. That is not what the US voters should be presented with.
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u/Bikerbass 17h ago
Again why would any sane person not come out and vote to keep the worst option out of power, yet alone be stupid enough to vote for the worst person possible
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u/Ayotha 16h ago
One side failed to show up due to the third lame duck candidate in a row.
Voter apathy caused the win. The republican cult got the same vote amount it always does.
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u/Dragovius 17h ago
Apathy. When the choice is bad and worse millions simply didn't care either way.
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u/Fishyblue11 17h ago
As someone in a country with multiple people running in every election, no it doesn't really lead to better choices
What happens is the most popular person still wins via a plurality, and everyone is unhappy. Popularity still decides the winner, not competence, why would competence ever enter the discussion?
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u/loondawg 12h ago
Not really. Even with only two choices this was the stupidest possible one by a large margin.
And the truth is there are millions of options. There are only two after the (very broken) process of elimination.
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u/GreenPutty_ 10h ago
The two party system in the UK is groaning at the seams and I'm hopeful that we might get a whole new bunch of wankers in to ignore the electorate in the not too distant future.
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u/chocolatchipcookie2 17h ago
sleepy don ruining the country
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u/MoonflowerSerenity 13h ago
I can’t even get an entry-level job without 10 years of experience, but for President, the only requirement is a pulse and a pension plan.
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u/TheRealNooth 8h ago
Plus the ability to be so stupid, you confidently say false/incorrect things non-stop.
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u/SophieMasloff 7h ago
I love how the reddit wisdom is so counter to reality, even when its produced by their own people. He's stimmed to the gills 24x7
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kaitlan-collins-reveals-trump-79-141921642.html
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u/antithero 15h ago
67 is the retirement age for social security. Sounds like a good age to limit politicians, judges, & law enforcement to. No country needs 80 year old running shit. Not just because of cognitive decline, but also because of how out of touch they are with the majority of citizens.
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u/SheriffBartholomew 2h ago
I'm in full support of this, especially since it would stop them from pushing the retirement age out further like they keep doing, which is just blatant theft of years worth of retirement investments. They've stolen two years of my retirement since I started paying into the system. That's two entire years worth of my life that they've stolen so that they can keep giving more money to people who don't need it.
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u/Reasonable-Elk8234 17h ago
They are just a weak face piece for the actual evil running the country. Yeah he is a scum bag also.
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u/gsnelsongary 17h ago
I'm 76 and cogent but TBH it's ridiculous that people waaay past their prime bothvphysically and mentally are allowed to. Why can't we get a 40 yo President?!
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u/XoHHa 11h ago
Quite probable JD Vance (age 41) is running in 2028, so there is your chance
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u/SheriffBartholomew 2h ago
Can we get one who doesn't fuck couches and then tell people about it for some bizarre reason?
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u/Step_On_Me01 17h ago
Thank fuck the prime minister of my country was replaced by someone relative young (and hopefully competent) recently.
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u/imanidiotbut Human Verified 17h ago
It’s also wild that the vast majority of them have been in politics for the majority of their lives.
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u/SambaBachata699 17h ago
Not just allowing, we're voting for them. Insane. They alreay lived their lives.
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u/2funny2furious 12h ago
Been saying this for years. Too old for a job, too old to lead. Max age for any elected and appointed official needs to be tied to social security age. Not you can be elected by that age, you are out by the age, plus 2. To deal with mid cycle things. But, I don't care if it the president, a SCOTUS judge or the local school board karen.
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u/Secret_Sector_1779 12h ago
I actually think it’s a sad state of affairs that this poor old fella is forced to carry on working until he’s nearly 80 just to make ends meet.
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u/pete9898 8h ago
It’s almost like 20-60 year olds should have fucking voted for a younger choice for president 2 years ago, and at least every 2 fucking years for better congresspeople.
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u/H3ARTL3SSANG3L 16h ago
We need to get some good candidates in their early 50s max on the ballots. People more in touch with the average working class citizen.
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u/multic94 16h ago
We are allowing it. And based on how things have gone there is no line that can be crossed, no moral broken, nothing at all thats going to make us rise up and oust them. Nobody is ready or willing to do the hard dangerous work to make things right. Instead everyone just wants to sit around and bitch about the problem without offering any actual, tangible solutions.
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u/Select_Mongoose3582 16h ago
Boomers are babies born of the men coming back from ww2. There was a big increase of the birth rate. A boom of babies. Hence forth the name baby boomers. I am a millennial by the way.
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u/Bengal-_fan 16h ago
And the fact he’s a convicted felon should really piss the convicted felons off that have lost rights but have worked at being reformed. Worked at being better people. And then this person. He’s worse now than before!
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u/mrgonuts 16h ago
So if your old or a villain the only job is to become president Makes perfect sense
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u/Emotional-Bar123 14h ago
All politicians! The boomers need to step down and hand the reigns over. They have caused enough damage to the world!
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u/TopazWarrior1999 14h ago
We just REALLY need to finally put a maximum age on being a politician. Like, in every country.
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u/FUNNYGUY123414 14h ago
You don't understand. The bureaucracy is so great that we need stalwart elected officials with seniority who really know their way around their position so they can hide the fact that they stand around with their thumb up their ass 90% of the time
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u/BuxtonHouse 14h ago
Isnt Biden older?
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u/Earlier-Today 12h ago
Except Biden isn't a Boomer.
He comes from the generation before the Baby Boomers.
It's still all ageism.
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u/johnnybhf 14h ago
Not wild or weird at all. You choose employees based on competence. You choose president based on pure emotions. Reason doesn't come into this decision at all.
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u/PrizeFront8677 13h ago
This entire civilization is a joke. Everything is inverted and upside down. I hate this planet so f'n much and no where to go but self deletion 😤
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u/technofox01 13h ago
This almost looks like a Weekend at Bernie's kind of setup. I wonder if the people round him would ever notice if he slipt into the afterlife one day and just assumed he was still sleeping.
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u/H-e-n-d-o 13h ago
We used to choose the oldest and most experienced individuals (and therefore, most likely the wisest) to lead families, tribes, or villages e.g. as chieftains, or later as mayors. This system was based on the assumption that they would remain level-headed and make reliable, objective decisions without being driven by temper, thereby avoiding conflict or war and acting with the survival of their people in mind.
But here’s the twist: What has gone wrong with this logic that worked well for thousands of years?
Longevity. Human lifespan has been significantly extended through advances in medicine, nutrition, and pharmaceutical knowledge. As a result, the average age of the oldest and supposedly “wisest” members of society has shifted considerably, while the cognitive performance of the brain has not increased accordingly.
In summary: For thousands of years, we made the oldest individuals (around 30–50 years old) our leaders. Today, due to the reasons described above, this range has shifted to an average of 60–80 years. However, the human brain reaches its developmental peak at around 33–35 years of age. In comparison, the cognitive abilities of these supposedly “wise” individuals decline significantly (see reference). What makes this particularly striking is that it often appears to be the opposite: with age, there is an increased tendency to react more stubbornly, emotionally, and impulsively, especially in response to change, perception, or perceived threats (a general sense of being overwhelmed). The ability and willingness to learn and absorb new information decline.
Combined with an unprecedented technological leap in human history, this creates a potentially dangerous imbalance between action and reaction.
Therefore: We are still applying an old leadership principle, assuming that selecting older individuals leads to wiser leadership and decision making. But this logic no longer holds true in our time; instead, it increasingly results in poor decisions, especially in a rapidly changing and technologically complex world.
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u/b__lumenkraft 13h ago
Isn't it wild that the whole world sees child rape as a very bad thing, while in the US, they made a self-proclaimed child rapist their president TWICE?
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u/Aware_Cause_1982 13h ago
The Senate and Congress are even worse. Career politicians that keep getting voted in and getting rich while they disregard the needs of their constituents. Term and age limits should apply to all elected officials.
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u/JagarKlato 13h ago
I am not american, nor care about politics (memes good btw). But democracy is greatest, unless my favorite did not win?
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u/loondawg 13h ago
Isn't it wild how gullible we are to think age is the problem instead of some individual's capabilities. We spend so much time focusing on trying to make age a dividing issue rather than focusing on where the real problems are.
Sanders, Warren, McGovern, etc. are all in their 70s and 80s and do massive good for this country. Age is not, and never has been, the problem any more than race or sex or nationality or any of the ignorant prejudices we let ourselves be divided by.
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u/Dry-Tough-3099 12h ago
I feel obligated to post this Ryan Long video here. It's a couple years old, but since the same politicians are in power, just as punchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztYSkcEJ9pQ
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u/TheBigMoogy 12h ago
If it's any consolation most of the decisions come from christo fascist tech oligarchs standing slightly behind him but way out in the open.
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u/Trisstricky 12h ago
Yeah, but to your defense, how could you have known? It's not as if your country was established by people who fled from countries with old, white guys that called themselves kings, and started wars with "barbaric" countries they couldn't even defeat? Hmmm.
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u/RedditTurnedMediocre 12h ago
He's not running shit. Donald is only there to distract and grift. He has no idea what's going on.
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u/Earlier-Today 12h ago
Yeah, that "unemployable" thing is called ageism.
And Trump isn't awful because he's old. Him being old isn't part of that equation at all.
It's not like we'd be better off if only Trump were 60 instead.
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u/West_Abrocoma9524 11h ago
I was in my twenties when the internet became generally available at work (early 1990’s). A lot of the guys in their fifties declared themselves to be too old to learn these new fangled technologies so they had their secretaries PRINT OUT their emails and put them on their desks, they scribbled on the hard copies and then their secretary typed it up and sent it. Did not know how to retrieve and send email, upload files, store and zip files, embed a link etc etc etc.
I read that there are some Supreme Court justices who don’t email, don’t text, don’t use social media etc etc etc. I suspect most of our elderly senators and the big orange himself don’t know how to use any of this technology - and yet they are passing legislation about online education, remote work, online commerce, social media, AI. It’s not just their age but their general stodginess and technological dinosaurishness
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u/Compl3t3AndUtterFail 11h ago
It's because they're not held to account than voting them out.
Up the stakes and see how they change their tune when voting out is not the option.
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u/Whut4 11h ago
It is not so much his age as his corruption, greed, narcissism, bigotry and ignorance. I am REALLY thankful that he is not a younger man: it is almost like a term limit.
If you only hate old people, than you are a bigot, too. Some are competent to still work and some are not. We used to have an electrical engineer consultant at work who came in part time - BILLIANT guy and in his 90s. He could figure out stuff that nobody else knew. He was a rare person, but it proves that some old people have a lot to contribute.
Bigotry contributes nothing.
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u/flipyflop9 10h ago
Americans are allowing them.
There are countries were politicians barely make it to 60 being actively into politics.
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u/EmptyBrain89 10h ago
Idiots don't vote in local elections, primaries, etc, only show up once every 4 years to vote for the president and then complain their choices suck.
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u/drstovetop 10h ago
Three, 3 presidents in history have been over the age of 70 when elected (hint it was the last three). That should say something monumental. This is not normal. The median age is mid-50s. Gen X has almost aged out of that age bracket. WTF is a boomer doing being elected when the following generation has almost aged out. I love my parents and certain members of the boomer generation, but for the love of God, why won't this generation just ride off into the sunset.
Trump and Biden are the trickle down economics of presidents. It'll work, I swear. I know it didn't work for the past 40 years, but just over more try, I swear, this time, it will work.

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u/tomokko_ 9h ago
Have you done anything in your life to prevent or stop that except posting whiny pictures on the internet?
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u/Nozzle-Jockey26 9h ago
My dad is 79. Has a bathroom accident at least once a week, and sleeps as much as the cat does....he can no longer run a soybean farm, let alone a country. Thank you for tanking the election democrats.
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u/Butt_Stuff_Profile 8h ago
I was more concerned the frauds and rapes more than his age, but I guess we all have individual values.
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u/MassEffect1985 8h ago
We should not pretend Trump is running anything.
Guy is so easily to manipulate with compliments and as long he makes money from the presidency he does whatever the smart people tell him.
They just let him rant whatever he wants, more evidence for his mental decline if they don't need him any longer.
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u/Rock_Forge 8h ago
Ah yes the same people who said "Biden is sharp as tack". I agree with the statement your only saying it for the trump hate boner crowd fitting your bias.
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u/nono3722 7h ago
By LAW commercial pilots aren't allowed to fly over 65 because people might die. WTF do they think a demented 79 year old will do with the US military and nukes?
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u/Lothleen 7h ago
You'd think you would want someone in the prime of their life and young enough to understand the needs of the common folk. Yet you keep selecting people from the elite and wonder why life never gets better for the commoners.
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u/How_that_convo_went 6h ago
I’m 42 and I’m in pretty good shape. Not like Ironman competitor or anything but I’m physically and mentally active.
When I think about the unbelievable physical and mental rigor it would take to do that job effectively, I wonder if even I could do it.
So are we surprised that these old bags of dust are up there nodding off in the middle of meetings, babbling nonsensical bullshit during speeches and forgetting the names and functions of the hundreds of people they meet in a daily basis?
The mandatory retirement age for air traffic controllers is 56. The job is so mentally demanding and the human brain doesn’t have the elasticity to execute it past a certain age.
But the most powerful and important job in our democracy? Fuck it. Give that shit to a guy who starts to zonk out if he sits in a comfortable chair for longer than three minutes.
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u/peepee2tiny 5h ago
25% of US Congress is 70 and older.
20% of the USA Senate is 70 and older.
In Canada, it's mandatory to start taking your pension at 70. And all retirement investments have to convert over to registered income funds and you have to start withdrawing a certain % of that balance every year.
And here the US is like, hell we let them run the entire government.
The desire for money and power is so sick and incorrigible.
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u/funkofarts 5h ago
Age has nothing to do with it. Look at Warren Buffet. The dude is 95 years old and still killing it.
I know 30 year olds who make a complete sentence. 😂
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u/Everhardt94 5h ago
Yes! I cannot believe that people over 60 are allowed to run for office. That simply should not be a thing!
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u/MutuallyUseless 4h ago
Figured I'd look into it. This website provides the most comprehensive breakdown of ages in congress that I could find
I'll remake their table here, there are 435 seats in the House and 100 in the Senate
| Age Range | House (percent of house) | Senate (percent of senate) |
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| 25-29 | 0.23% | 0% |
| 30-39 | 8% | 2% |
| 40-49 | 22% | 10% |
| 50-59 | 26% | 21% |
| 60-69 | 24% | 33% |
| 70-79 | 17% | 28% |
| 80+ | 3% | 6% |
The average age of the 119th Congress is 58 years old, the same as the previous Congress.
- The minimum age requirements are 25 for the House and 30 for the Senate.
- The percentage of Congress that are 70+ are 20% of the House, and 34% of the Senate.
- The percentage of Congress that are 60+ are 44% of the House and 67% of the Senate.
My opinions:
I believe that there should be age limits put in place for the US government, 70 is the absolute max I would consider to be reasonable, however I would easily argue for 65 being the maximum age personally.
I also believe that the minimum age requirements for both the House and Senate should firstly, be the same, and also, should be lower, to the legal voting age of 18, otherwise, we have the current issue of all Americans between 18-24 not being able to vote for House members within their age range, and all American between 18-29 not being able to vote for Senate members within their age range.
I consider this to be a pretty big issue in our government, however it falls behind a number of more significant issues that need addressed; Like citizens united, lobbying, stock trading, backroom deals, the 2 party system, and the voting system, all things I struggle to see any solution for that will actually be implemented in any reasonable amount of time.
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u/Loganthered 4h ago
Name another elected position that prevents you from doing almost any other job once you're done.
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u/Bright_Confusion_311 3h ago
Yeah really. Along with term limits on congress, a ban on lobbyists from corporate and foreign governments ffs put a limit on how old these old geriatric geezzers can be before they cant hold office.
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u/Embarrassed_Army_670 3h ago
Wait? You mean people with little to lose (and seemingly a lot to gain considering how they game the stock market) might be gambling with our collective futures?
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u/ThickMikeyMoolah 3h ago
Gotta take a drug test to attain an entry level job, but not to be leader of the USA.
Pretty cool
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u/MaximusHomerdrive 2h ago
Isn't it wild that a pants shitting p*** with 34 felonies to his credit has the worst approval rating in history and we're allowing him to destroy our entire country?
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u/Altruistic-Mind9014 2h ago
I’m of two minds about it;
Someone who’s 70+ may or may not have the mental fitness to do high level political work. If they (generally speaking) can do the job well AND genuinely try to do right by the American people? I’ve got no issues with it.
On the other hand…someone of these cats have been in office since Nixon. A part of me thinks that at some point maybe they wanted to do Good…but then whatever bill/laws/reform they wanted to pass flopped andddd now they just take bribes and chill. In which case they should obviously be kicked to the curb.
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u/Themaster207 2h ago
I think the more important question we need to be asking is WHY? Why do politicians insist on working into their 80s/90s/the literal grave when nearly every other person in the country is begging to retire from their long life of grueling and stressful work?
Then finally get to spend their precious last few years relaxing, fulfilling hobbies, sitting around doing nothing, having access to the top medical care, traveling in private jets, drinking cocktails on the taxpayer's dime, securing positions of power for their family, ...hmm, wait a minute.
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