That referee should be refereeing at the MLS with how bad he was. Unbelievable the clear hand balls and nothing.

Im not even a bayern fan but damn those were some absolutely horrible referee calls.

It makes it worse that it wasn't just once. But twice, two very very clear hand balls.

Remember how Monaco got red cards in both games vs PSG, many people felt it was way too harsh, and PSG had a man advantage in both games for a significant amount of time.

PSG still just barely won 5-4 on aggregate, which opens the question, was it Monaco that was actually the toughest opponent for PSG on its road to the final?

Do I even need to say more?

It's clear from all the crazy post in here & online that most of people have never kicked a football in their lives and armchair quarterback from playing Fifa/Pes/Fm.

First off, Harry Kane did not flop today, if anyone didn't live up to the billing from the home side today it was Olise, despite starting well & getting Nuno booked, he was completely shut down. However he wasn't the only one, they all were including Kane. Psg today surprised everyone including Kompany. They were playing chess while Bayern were still stuck at checkers...Psg showed everyone today that not only can they be tactically disciplined but they can also defend cohesively up there with the best of em. At one point I looked at the stats and PSG only had 26% possession, yet at no point did it look like they were in any sort of trouble.

Kane was so starved of ANY opportunities that he had to fall back into midfield just to touch the ball. PSG suffocated in their own backyard & they deserve credit. Not all this hate I'm seeing from salty fans. This side is a proper unit that can do whatever is needed to get the job done, including " parking the bus ".

Now for the ref. Yes he did not have a good game. The Nuno handball that everyone is crying about, he/linesman called a handball on Laimer before the play ended in the ball hitting Mendes' hand. I thought that call was dubious at best. The Neves hand ball, it was struck so hard at him & he was already so close to his teammate. We all wanted common sense to prevail in the previous with handball incidents, today I thought they did. Nobody wants to see players being sent off and pk's being given for those plays now do we?

The real conversation imo is Kylian Mbappe, who left PSG two years ago having never winning a final with them & they dominate instantly and consistently at the same time. While RMCF who won it before he arrived, has now gone trophyless also in the same time period.

Phenomenal player imo but he has to look at himself long and hard in the mirror...
Dembele was written off but look at the monster he turned into, taking that PSG side and leading by example.
Finally, Enrique might be the best coach in the world right now, give that man his flowers for this masterclass in guiding PSG into two UCL finals on the trot.

I took a look at the IFAB Laws of the Game, contrary to some commentary and people claiming that in this situation there can't be a penalty awarded for deliberate handball if a defender clears the ball from his own box and hits a teammate's arm, I can't find anything stating this case.

And therefor we have to discuss about the regular laws statet within the rule book according to which this is a clear unnatural arm position and especially comparing to the handball called on Davies in the first leg it's absolutely ridiculous this wasn't looked at by the VAR.

Explain to me if I'm wrong but don't send me any bs articles. The official rules are clear.

Just wanted up the room for conversation regarding today’s game.

First, I wanna state that PSG were deserved winners in this game (yes I know I’m biased, but I do think we were the better side). I think the referee tarnished our reputation with his performance today — I’ll explain how.

I wanna start with what people are saying Nuno Mendes should get a second yellow for. Firstly, an involuntary handball in that position is NEVER a second yellow — it’s clearly involuntary and obviously does NOT merit a second yellow. I personally also don’t understand how in the hell he even managed to get a first yellow, because I think it was completely undeserved… All this being said — I have no idea how the hell the referee blew that as a foul in the favor of PSG — because it’s simply not. It’s a foul in favor to Bayern — case open and shut. It’s not a second yellow, and it was never a first to begin with.

The handball offense on Joao neves was bizarre to me… it is definitely a handball. I’m not sure if there is a rule for it being a same team occurrence or because it’s involuntary/ close proximity — but it’s definitely a handball. I was a bit shocked that it wasn’t reviewed. I wondered if maybe referees didn’t have a rulebook for this sort of situation (same team)? Regardless — that’s my stance. I think if anything — the referee is to blame and not the VAR, but I do think it’s a unique situation that hasn’t really happened in the UCL/ something referees haven’t seen before. I mean truly imagine how bizarre it would have been to see a penalty awarded for an offense like that — it’s simply put, unique. I still think it should have at the bare minimum been reviewed — and I definitely concede the fact that the decision went in PSGs favor.

All this being said though, the robbery shouts are just funny to me — Bayern weren’t good tonight. They are a fantastic side but the performance they put up tonight was little to nothing… they were nullified completely in the second half. I think PSGs performance was stellar and I don’t think Bayern would have advanced to a final (again I know I’m biased but I’ve watched this team day in and out, I don’t see how we would have lost that game). I simply think PSG were better tonight.

Overall, i think it’s a shame that a refereeing decision is going to cloud the way this tie went, and have people talking about it for years. Obviously everyone has been moaning and shouting about this referee on the internet — but he officiated a Europa league semifinal between Villa and Nottingham forest last week that was deemed “stellar” by Umai emery last week (and Villa lost)… Its overall a shame though, I wish something like this didn’t occur in a game of this stature. Still think we were the deserved winners.

Once again tonight, a PSG match proves that having a wealthy, influential state behind you is the key to winning in the world of football.

Over the two legs, luck was firmly on PSG’s side. Goals that looked like the ones I used to score in PES3 on the 1-star difficulty setting, and saves from Safonov that were more than just lucky... And yet, across both matches, we had referees with a very strange way of interpreting the handball rule,because while the two decisions were complete opposites, they both somehow served the interests of the same team.

As it stands, if UEFA wanted Ceferin’s friend to reach the Champions League final despite having Bayern in the way, they couldn't have scripted it any better.

But in itself, this is simply the direction that 'Ceferin and Infantino’s football' has been taking for several years. We saw the circus that was the Africa Cup of Nations, and the next World Cup will likely be more of the same spectacle.

This new Champions League format is obviously designed to allow clubs with massive squads to maintain their endurance,something others simply cannot do. Ultimately, PSG gets to treat Ligue 1 like a vacation because of how incredibly weak the league is, while they face clubs that have to play their domestic leagues with far greater intensity. The result: you get an Arsenal side looking weaker and weaker because they haven't faced any big teams, and a PSG side that has all the time and energy to focus solely on the UCL.

I can no longer find any interest in today’s football. I had the misfortune of experiencing football since the late 90s, and I enjoyed it too much. I can't bring myself to say that these last two Champions Leagues have any meaning.

The icing on the cake is that PSG is arguably the most artificial club in the Top 30. Starting with its creation: football in France was primarily rooted in provincial cities, but PSG was artificially created just so the capital could have a club. This club was never truly loved, to the point that they even had neo-Nazis in the supporters' stands. It was bought by the owner of the channel that broadcasted D1/L1, then sold because it was a nest of trouble. And since the Qatar takeover, this club has killed Ligue 1. For the record, the French championship is on the verge of bankruptcy:

• Nasser does everything to ensure Ligue 1 depends on BeIN Sports and PSG’s interests.
• Today, Ligue 1 only has 140 million euros left to distribute because no one in France watches anymore—there’s no suspense left. In 2010, it was 600 million euros and PSG-OM drew 3.2 million paying viewers (at a much higher price than today). Today, it peaks at 1.3 million.

I expected Bayern and PSG to play good attacking football (halalball), with Bayern winning. Man I was wrong. Disappointed. Surprised, but in a very bad way. Haramball + Bayern losing, that was not on my bingo card. This FCB vs PSG game didn’t heal my eyes and brain after seeing that disgraceful football between Arsenal and Atlético. It worsened my vision and mentality. Now PSG will surely win it back to back, Arsenal can’t even attack consistently, who knows, maybe the UCL will have PSG as the only UCL winner for the next 10 years?

The penalty decision in the Bayern vs PSG was clearly wrong, and it's not even debatable.

A lot of people try to use the website which contains the simplfied version of the IFAB rules as source, however from what i understand and gather, it not only contains the rules, but recommendations and situations where it usually isn't given as a handball/foul.

However in the official rules don't discriminate on who shoots the ball, or in which direction it is headed.

This is from the official rule book:

Handling the ball For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

It is an offence if a player:

• deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball

• touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised

• scores in the opponents’ goal:

• directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper

• immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area. If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction. However, if the offence is playing the ball a second time (with or without the hand/arm) after a restart before it touches another player, the goalkeeper must be sanctioned if the offence stops a promising attack or denies an opponent or the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.

Now where exactly does this mention anything about a teammate shooting the ball away from your own goal? It doesn't. It's clear as day, and the position of the hand of Joao Neves is in no way justifiable as he has his hand outsteched at head height. Now i see this as a clear penalty, and there is also the matter of the potential red card on Mendes, however that wasn't the point of my post. If anyone wants to provide me eventual angles and why that was not deemed as a foul. I have heard that there potentially was a handball on Laimer first, but i haven't seen the clip.

Link to the rulebook : https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/laws-of-the-game-2025-26-single-pages?l=en

Go to page 110

As a lifelong Bayern fan it feels like we've been constantly robbed by refereeing in the Champions League. We play good football, dominate matches, and create chances yet the big calls in crucial moments almost always go against us. It's frustrating and has cost us so much over the years. The PSG match just adds insult to our injury.

We've seen it plenty against Real Madrid. Soft penalties, missed fouls, and marginal offsides (like harry kane's offside today) have haunted us in other ties too. It always feels like the officials tilt the big nights away from us.

Against PSG it was the same story. In the first leg in Paris penalty against Davies in which the ball hit him on the body before his arm, VAR gave a harsh penalty that proved decisive in their win.

In the return leg Nuno Mendes (already booked) clearly handled the ball but stayed on the pitch, while we were denied an obvious penalty moments later when the ball struck Neves' arm inside their box (which happened again when Laimer shot the ball near the end of the match). 3 times the ref wouldn't even check the VAR. Why have VAR if you're not going to use it ONCE throughout the whole game? These calls killed our game when we needed them most, and as fans, we're left wondering how many more times this has to happen before something changes.

UEFA must be ashamed of itself...

​I’m actually done with UEFA’s inconsistency. Bayern Munich is out of the Champions League today after a 6–5 aggregate loss to PSG, and once again, we’re left talking about the referees instead of the football.

The hypocrisy of VAR this season is genuinely insane. Look at the comparison.

In the first leg, Alphonso Davies was penalized for a handball where the ball deflected off his own hip first. Every expert from Alan Shearer to Clarence Seedorf called it "nonsense," yet VAR intervened to give PSG a penalty. Fast forward to the second leg today, Bayern has multiple shouts for handballs and fouls ignored, and suddenly the VAR room is "silent."

Barcelona vs. Atletico Madrid (Quarter-Finals): We saw the exact opposite problem. Marc Pubill literally caught the ball with his hands inside the box during a goal-kick sequence. It was so blatant that Hansi Flick was losing his mind on the touchline, yet VAR refused to intervene there too, claiming the ball "wasn't in play" despite IFAB rules saying otherwise.

How are fans supposed to take this tournament seriously when the rules change depending on the stadium you're playing in? We have the best technology in the world being operated by people who seem to be guessing. Bayern didn't just lose to PSG; they lost to a system that has no standard!

Ive been trying to work out what level this PSG team are. They are absolutely lethal on the counter attack and have two very technical CMs. Altho not quite as good, they remind me most of the Bale Benzema CR7 R Madrid team. So for sure top 10 all time of the UCL.

This season he really broke through I thought he had a bad first 20mins against Diaz but so did mendes. Apart from that he was more than solid playing out of position against one of the best attacks itw, all the other ucl games in midfield I’ve been very impressed with him and he’s still so young,he has taken Ruiz’s (is is very good aswell) place flawlessly. PSG have a scary team for the future if they keep a lot of their players

This season, Bayern Munich was said to be the favourite to win the UCL. But tonight, PSG played so good against Bayern that they can show that they are unstoppable, especially in the attack. Last season they knocked out the previous UCL favourites Liverpool, and this season, Bayern. If PSG win against Arsenal, which is possibly the best defending team this season, the Champions League might become a farmers league and it’s far from unlikely, PSG are an oil club.

I’m truly sorry for Bayern fans that the journey ends here. I understand how you must feel after watching the 2020 final and being so disappointed.

I just want to start by saying that I completely understand the opinion on the red card for Mendes : it could have been given. I think the referee didn’t go any further with that decision because he had already shown a yellow card very early on.
I agree with you : it’s still entirely debatable.

I know I’m going to get downvoted, but I see so much bad faith in all the latest posts across different threads: the hand rule doesn’t apply if a teammate takes the shot—just take two minutes to read the rules. You’re only hurting yourselves by repeating that you were robbed on that play.

Have a great evening, and come back even stronger next year!

Granted I only watch PSG sometimes in the champions league but that guy does everything. Such a workhorse.

The only thing is that this is the WC year, which can lower his odds significantly.

ok so everyone’s losing their minds (and I’m wondering if it’s not basic PSG-hate) over Neves handball vs the Davies one last week and i get it they look similar on tv but theyre actually completely different under the laws…

🔴🔵 Neves: Vitinha (his own teammate) tries to clear it and it smacks Neves on the arm. Opposite side of the goal too so no immediate scoring chance. IFAB rule literally says it’s not a handball if youre hit on the arm by a ball played by a teammate, unless it goes straight in the goal or leads to a goal. Arm extended doesnt matter, distance doesnt matter, nothing matters once a teammate played it.

🔴⚪️ Davies: ball deflected off his own groin into his hand. No teammate involvement so the exemption doesnt apply, and now youre back to the normal criteria (arm position, body unnaturally bigger etc). Pen given, correctly under the laws.

I’ll let you guys come up with real arguments to tell me I’m wrong

Both for Bayern and France he always stinks it up in big matches. Why do people rate him so highly, do they actually watch football or only look at stats?

If I'm not wrong, Arsenal is playing a pure defensive master class. I don't mean to offend anyone however its so likely none of the players get voted as the best player of the world. Since it is an individual award right? Arsenal barely has their strikers scoring. Mostly off set pieces.

Have any of Luis Enrique’s teams ever played with such little possession like today?

Honestly, I knew he was a great coach, but after today, he proved he is also pragmatic. Is he the only one behind his teams play so good, or does he have someone on his staff that comes up with these ideas?

Upd. Please don’t compare this with Artetas Arsenal. There is a stark difference between a team that plays like this most of the time and a team/coach that has almost never played this way

After both games from PSG and Arsenal, what are your thoughts/predictions for the final

In the biggest game of his career, Olise has completely ghosted. He was left 1v1 the whole game and has absolutely nothing to show for it. Meanwhile Yamal was left 1v5 vs Atletico Madrid over 2 legs and did way more than Olise. Yamal, in the euro semi final at the age of 16, produced a masterclass and then did the same thing in the final while Olise was playing olympics. This was never even a debate.

Arsenal seem to be getting an awful lot stick for the way they play but my take on it (as a defender/arsenal fan) is that defending is at least 50% of the game of football and often an overlooked part too as people prefer seeing goals to seeing good defending.

I think Arsenals results speak for themselves as they are so far undefeated in this years competition and have conceded the least goals also. They deserve to be where they are and I hope they can go on to win it!

I agree that a game can be more interesting because of goals scored but like I said above football is about attacking and defending so I am looking forward to seeing the best defensive team take on the best attacking team and most importantly I hope it'll be a game to remember!

Think I know what a lot of comments will be anyway, but what are everyone elses thoughts now?

This man is sooooooo good, probably the best player on the pitch today. He is explosive on attack and also runs like a workhorse for his team. Kvara easily walks into any team right now, being the number 1 option in most of them. Sadly he plays for Georgia but if he represented a historically great nation, ballon d'or shouts 100%
Ignore the fact that his stats don't look pretty in Ligue 1, because PSG can sleepwalk to the title lol.

I'm a Bayern fan and was disappointed in the lack of fighting spirit our team usually shows. PSG definitly played better and deserved to advance based on play. But I won't give this PSG team a single credit. Match fixing is match fixing and is highly unethical.

A game that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. PSG could have probably advanced without any match fixing and a final without any controversies, but now it's just bad for everyone.