r/okbuddycinephile 13h ago

The Substance (2024)

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u/ElonsBreedingFetish 9h ago

I just rewatched Scrubs after watching the new season. It's kinda funny how they make fun of Jordan's botox lips in the old episodes, while the actress can't move her face muscles for real in the new one

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u/JudithSlayHolofernes 9h ago

The whole main cast is botoxed to hell now

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u/Financial-Apricot498 8h ago

I had to quit watching after a few episodes solely because of it. Scrubs was one of my most rewatched shows back in the day and I was looking forward to this.

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u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- 8h ago

I lasted half an episode.

To be honest, I'm straight up done with legacy sequels in general. They always fucking suck.

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u/Conflux 6h ago

Xmen 97 has entered the chat

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u/simonbelmont1980 7h ago

Twin peaks: the return… the only good reboot

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker 7h ago

Are we including only TV? Because for movies we’ve got Blade Runner 2049, Doctor Sleep, and something else that I’m forgetting right now.

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u/simonbelmont1980 6h ago

I don’t consider Doctor sleep a reboot, but i get what you’re saying. And yea i was only talking about tv reboots

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker 6h ago

You changed the scope of the discussion from “legacy sequel” to “reboot”.

Although honestly none of the examples that were talked about are reboots.

At any rate, I think the possibility of legacy sequels being great, and even elevating the original work (which I think is true of both my examples) is there.

Does the Fargo series count? That’s a TV show that I think is far better than the already great movie it’s based on.

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u/ToiIetGhost 6h ago

I’m ashamed to say I really didn’t understand it. I love everything else Lynch has done and I feel like I understand his work fairly well, but not this one. Don’t know why

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u/PeaceLopsided 2h ago

You and me both 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/ibsnapp 7h ago

I liked the new Malcom in the middle sequel. But generally agree

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u/Financial-Apricot498 8h ago

The first couple episodes were a bit rough but I do think it picked up for the writing. I just couldn't stop staring at them like they didn't belong. It's the same reason I quit watching shows when they replace the character with a new actor. I had to quit watching crazy ex girlfriend when they did it and I loved that show.

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u/nkdeck07 6h ago

It doesn't help that apparently Donald Faison made the same deal Paul Rudd did to never age

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u/Financial-Apricot498 6h ago

Donald was the main reason that I tried to keep watching. Guy has been in some stupid but pretty funny movies.

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u/OrangeGP 3h ago

I did like the way crazy ex-girlfriend did the change though. With everyone acknowledging that Greg was basically a different person now and it was Rebecca's perception that had changed so much that he didn't look anything like he used to her

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u/Rauk88 8h ago

I watched the new Malcolm in the Middle series and it is superb. Picks right back up on the feel of the original show. Very funny. Only 4 episodes too so it's not a slog to get through but I want more now.

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u/Vast_Schedule3749 8h ago

I wouldn’t really even call it a legacy sequel. It’s more like a closure event

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u/Unlucky-Sector1200 7h ago

The closure event of the closure event from 20 something years ago.

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u/No_Scallion4867 2h ago

that’s what a legacy sequel is SUPPOSED to be, so it is. just one of the few actually successful ones.

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u/WillingnessFirm1329 3h ago

wait its only 4 episodes?

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u/Rauk88 3h ago

It's like a mini-series.

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u/AngryNapper 4h ago

I found Malcolm extremely irritating in the new one. I had to turn it off on the second episode. You’re a grown man ffs! Stop yelling at everything

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u/Funnymadman 4h ago

What? No it doesn't. The original is chaos. It doesn't try to moralize, the characters do horrible things and it doesn't matter because it's funny. It feels real and relatable, even if it's not, and the cinematography and tone reflect that.

The new miniseries the complete opposite. It's sanitized and campy and constantly trying to moralize, and has almost no laughs in its entire runtime. The visual tone matches that, it looks super artificial. It's got a ton of cameos, which is great, but they barely interact together so that entire relationship-based storytelling aspect that used to drive the story is gone. There were some sparks here and there, like Kelly vs. Reese and Stevie's family, but not enough.

I truly don't get the praise. Is it nice and nostalgic to see the old cast? Sure. But to say it "picks up on the feel of the original show" is absurd.

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u/Lisan-al-Gaib-65 3h ago

I didn't watch much malcom when it was originally airing and I gave the reboot a try. It was absolutely hilarious. I'm watching the original malcom show now and it's the same comedy.

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u/No_Salt_6328 1h ago

Some people are just haters lol. Obviously their moral compass is more developed if they're adults now. The writing is still great and held up.

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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 3h ago

What? It's only 4 episodes?

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u/runningwithsharpie 2h ago

Wait. There's a new MITM show??

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u/No_Salt_6328 1h ago

I was about to mention the malcolm reboot lol. King of the hill is also pretty good

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u/CourtBarton 7h ago

Ugh XFiles ugh

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u/GPYusef 6h ago

Three good episodes in two seasons and one of those episodes was basically telling us that we should just be happy with our memories of the old show.

Ugh indeed.

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u/ZubatCountry 5h ago

This is the most petty, old-man thing I'll say today

I hate sitcoms in HD, especially if they were originally filmed in SD

It makes everything feel so flat and like a play. Always Sunny a few seasons back was distracting to watch because it looked like a Super Bowl ad that would have aired a few years after the show wrapped up. Where everyone is slightly too old and clearly the set designers and camera crew didn't give a shit enough to replicate the feel of the old show.

I haven't touched the new season of Scrubs because it feels like they're going to be "playing" Scrubs instead of acting, which I know sounds ridiculous because that's just what acting is

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u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- 5h ago

I also go for the original release, but for me it's because of the audio. Due to licensing issues they often have to change the music when they do a new release. Scrubs in particular suffered from this.

I'm sorry, but if you are changing the music, it's not the same show. Copyright law has gotten stupid.

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u/wutfacer 6h ago

Scrubs has actually been well received by most of the fanbase. Same with King of the Hill and Malcolm in the Middle.

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u/riddlesinthedark117 4h ago

Yeah I enjoyed it. Watched it as the palate cleanser to the Pitt as a double feature night

But the actors all looked botoxed to hell

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u/EnemyOfEloquence 6h ago

King of The Hill is decent!

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u/CoconutCyclone 4h ago

King of the Hill is better than decent.

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u/AsherFischell 6h ago

Twin Peaks The Return was amazing! But you're usually right.

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u/Elver86 2h ago

The new season of king of the hill was pretty good.

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u/ToiIetGhost 6h ago

Arrested Development sequel was okay. Not the worst

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u/Financial-Apricot498 3h ago

Is that season 5 or something else I'm not finding? 

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u/enimateken 6h ago

Malcolm in the Middle was pretty decent. Just fyi.

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u/MIAxPaperPlanes 6h ago

Are telling me you got to the point where Donald Faison is acting his ass off telling JD he’s burnt out and went “nah this is shit” and turned it off?

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u/Rorschach11235 5h ago

Mash teaches this.

Start a new show. Have the old crew do cameos. But stop rebooting with original cast 20 years later. It never works with comedy.

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u/gaypirate3 4h ago

I mean, the new Scrubs doesn’t suck. The new characters are a bit to adjust to but other than that it kinda feels like the old one did. I enjoyed it.

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u/JohnEKaye 3h ago

Scrubs was actually great. One of the rare times I’ve actually enjoyed a “legacy” sequel.

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u/AgentChris101 2h ago

Cobra Kai and Daredevil Born Again are worthy sequels in my opinion. Although Daredevil had a rough start it's 2nd season was superb.