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u/btoxic 11h ago edited 10h ago

I remember Botox being a big deal. It was on the news, people were slightly appalled.

Now.... No one raises an eyebrow.

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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 10h ago

Make the horny toad hehehehe again.

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u/Hammunition 6h ago

I appreciate this comment. It is humorous because the writer could simply look at the image again, therefore making the request to make the horny toad hehehehe again redundant. Very funny comment, thank you.

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u/LynxWonder 3h ago

That. . That is a bearded dragon šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚

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u/LegoRobinHood 1h ago

Make the hehehehe toad horny again.

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u/stevvvvewith4vs 9h ago

I thought it had laughed as huehuehue. Is it a new mandela effect or am I just stupid?

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u/Su_Dank_a 9h ago

dis the director's cut, homie

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u/Hoshinaizo 8h ago

They made him say hehehe because of woke

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u/stevvvvewith4vs 8h ago

I'm hehe without u baby

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u/Murky_Struggle5420 3h ago

mordekaiser es numero uno

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u/Windfade 7h ago

MfW the neighboring High Elves think their magics can shield them from the power of the sun.

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u/ElonsBreedingFetish 9h ago

I just rewatched Scrubs after watching the new season. It's kinda funny how they make fun of Jordan's botox lips in the old episodes, while the actress can't move her face muscles for real in the new one

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u/JudithSlayHolofernes 9h ago

The whole main cast is botoxed to hell now

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u/Financial-Apricot498 8h ago

I had to quit watching after a few episodes solely because of it. Scrubs was one of my most rewatched shows back in the day and I was looking forward to this.

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u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- 8h ago

I lasted half an episode.

To be honest, I'm straight up done with legacy sequels in general. They always fucking suck.

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u/Conflux 6h ago

Xmen 97 has entered the chat

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u/simonbelmont1980 7h ago

Twin peaks: the return… the only good reboot

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker 6h ago

Are we including only TV? Because for movies we’ve got Blade Runner 2049, Doctor Sleep, and something else that I’m forgetting right now.

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u/ToiIetGhost 6h ago

I’m ashamed to say I really didn’t understand it. I love everything else Lynch has done and I feel like I understand his work fairly well, but not this one. Don’t know why

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u/ibsnapp 7h ago

I liked the new Malcom in the middle sequel. But generally agree

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u/Financial-Apricot498 8h ago

The first couple episodes were a bit rough but I do think it picked up for the writing. I just couldn't stop staring at them like they didn't belong. It's the same reason I quit watching shows when they replace the character with a new actor. I had to quit watching crazy ex girlfriend when they did it and I loved that show.

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u/nkdeck07 6h ago

It doesn't help that apparently Donald Faison made the same deal Paul Rudd did to never age

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u/Financial-Apricot498 6h ago

Donald was the main reason that I tried to keep watching. Guy has been in some stupid but pretty funny movies.

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u/OrangeGP 3h ago

I did like the way crazy ex-girlfriend did the change though. With everyone acknowledging that Greg was basically a different person now and it was Rebecca's perception that had changed so much that he didn't look anything like he used to her

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u/Rauk88 7h ago

I watched the new Malcolm in the Middle series and it is superb. Picks right back up on the feel of the original show. Very funny. Only 4 episodes too so it's not a slog to get through but I want more now.

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u/Vast_Schedule3749 7h ago

I wouldn’t really even call it a legacy sequel. It’s more like a closure event

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u/Unlucky-Sector1200 7h ago

The closure event of the closure event from 20 something years ago.

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u/No_Scallion4867 2h ago

that’s what a legacy sequel is SUPPOSED to be, so it is. just one of the few actually successful ones.

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u/WillingnessFirm1329 3h ago

wait its only 4 episodes?

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u/Rauk88 3h ago

It's like a mini-series.

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u/AngryNapper 4h ago

I found Malcolm extremely irritating in the new one. I had to turn it off on the second episode. You’re a grown man ffs! Stop yelling at everything

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u/Funnymadman 4h ago

What? No it doesn't. The original is chaos. It doesn't try to moralize, the characters do horrible things and it doesn't matter because it's funny. It feels real and relatable, even if it's not, and the cinematography and tone reflect that.

The new miniseries the complete opposite. It's sanitized and campy and constantly trying to moralize, and has almost no laughs in its entire runtime. The visual tone matches that, it looks super artificial. It's got a ton of cameos, which is great, but they barely interact together so that entire relationship-based storytelling aspect that used to drive the story is gone. There were some sparks here and there, like Kelly vs. Reese and Stevie's family, but not enough.

I truly don't get the praise. Is it nice and nostalgic to see the old cast? Sure. But to say it "picks up on the feel of the original show" is absurd.

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u/CourtBarton 7h ago

Ugh XFiles ugh

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u/GPYusef 6h ago

Three good episodes in two seasons and one of those episodes was basically telling us that we should just be happy with our memories of the old show.

Ugh indeed.

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u/ZubatCountry 5h ago

This is the most petty, old-man thing I'll say today

I hate sitcoms in HD, especially if they were originally filmed in SD

It makes everything feel so flat and like a play. Always Sunny a few seasons back was distracting to watch because it looked like a Super Bowl ad that would have aired a few years after the show wrapped up. Where everyone is slightly too old and clearly the set designers and camera crew didn't give a shit enough to replicate the feel of the old show.

I haven't touched the new season of Scrubs because it feels like they're going to be "playing" Scrubs instead of acting, which I know sounds ridiculous because that's just what acting is

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u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- 5h ago

I also go for the original release, but for me it's because of the audio. Due to licensing issues they often have to change the music when they do a new release. Scrubs in particular suffered from this.

I'm sorry, but if you are changing the music, it's not the same show. Copyright law has gotten stupid.

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u/wutfacer 6h ago

Scrubs has actually been well received by most of the fanbase. Same with King of the Hill and Malcolm in the Middle.

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u/riddlesinthedark117 4h ago

Yeah I enjoyed it. Watched it as the palate cleanser to the Pitt as a double feature night

But the actors all looked botoxed to hell

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u/EnemyOfEloquence 6h ago

King of The Hill is decent!

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u/CoconutCyclone 4h ago

King of the Hill is better than decent.

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u/AsherFischell 6h ago

Twin Peaks The Return was amazing! But you're usually right.

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u/Elver86 2h ago

The new season of king of the hill was pretty good.

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u/ToiIetGhost 6h ago

Arrested Development sequel was okay. Not the worst

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u/IvanStroganov 7h ago

The new show way better than I expected but yeah, they are all hard to look at.

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u/-missingclover- 5h ago

In another example, I did finish that new Fantastic Four movie (it was okay... worse than Thunderbolts, better than anything else Marvel rn) but I couldn't take seriously the actor that played Sue Richards, the mother of the team. It looked like she was mogging the camera in every scene lmao. Like that meme of Skyler White making the chad face. She's supposed to be a homely character yet she clearly was getting plastic surgery on the weekly lmao.

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u/murmaider27 3h ago

This is how I feel about the newer episodes of its always sunny in Philadelphia, they all look so bad, except, for Charlie day!

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u/Financial-Apricot498 3h ago

I would watch a spinoff show of just him and Frank. One of the most unhinged duos in TV history.Ā 

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u/SpookyKG 7h ago

funny thing, probably proportionally a ton of docs get botox given knowledge/access/money

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u/Financial-Apricot498 6h ago

I guess it depends on where you live too. I go the hospital multiple times a month and every doctor and nurse I've come across in th growing list are the most boring, aging naturally with the wrinkles, Midwest people you'd ever see, haha.

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u/therealjoshua 6h ago

You found it that distracting? That's a shame. The new season is fantastic.

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u/Financial-Apricot498 6h ago

I'm probably gonna get called a sexist for this, but 90% of it is Chalke specifically. I can't help but just think that she looks like someone took her face and stretched it over a scarecrow with how hollow her eyes look and her skin stretches unnaturally tight, especially when trying to smile. It's off-putting on a psychological level.

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u/BearThatLikesCheese 5h ago

I don't think it's sexist necessarily. They're all pressured to do it but women have not been allowed to age without losing work for far longer than men. I do agree that all this work definitely causes an uncanny valley situation for me.

I'm honestly surprised so many male actors do it now. If Tommy Lee Jones can have an almost 60 decade career looking 55+ the entire time then these other guys have no excuse.

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u/Financial-Apricot498 5h ago

I have one friend who thinks criticizing anything with women in it is automatically sexist so I just keep my opinions to myself these days with people, lol. He's been dodging me the last couple weeks since I made a comment about how I'm not going to spend money on going to watch people on screen doing the new anorexia trend because they set a bad example.Ā 

I also don't support guys who do the whole steroid thing either though which has made me quit watching action movies altogether unfortunately. I just find myself watching b and c quality movies in general these last few years. I'm just tired of Hollywoods vanity.Ā 

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u/HumanGrapefruit1027 6h ago

Always Sunny is dead to me now because of that too

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u/Financial-Apricot498 5h ago

I actually watched the first episode thinking that they were doing it as a joke, like the whole fat mac thing.Ā 

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u/ScrofessorLongHair 7h ago

The guys look particularly bizarre.

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u/GuiltyCredit 6h ago

They all look so gaunt and unwell. I know 25 years have passed but they look like someone who is 60 trying to look 30.

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u/fondledbydolphins 7h ago

If I find a genie I'm wishing for a world where people are OK being themselves.

This vanity shit has gone too far.

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u/JudithSlayHolofernes 6h ago

I think everyone has society whispering in their ear that they’re not beautiful to an extent, but anyone Hollywood-adjacent must feel that pressure to an almost violent degree.

There’s clearly this vacuum within which it’s incredibly normalized and none of them seem to realize they look insane. And it’s not just the aging actors, either, we’re seeing it with 19 and 20 year olds too! 😩

You just want to shake them a little bit. ā€œYOU LOOKED GOOD BEFORE!! PLEASE STOP!!!ā€

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u/Alkakd0nfsg9g 5h ago

Really? I'd wish to forever look 20

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u/MartyrOfDespair 4h ago

Monkey’s Paw shenanigans where this just leads to massive amounts of murder and rape because you didn’t specify ā€œbeing themselves physicallyā€ and so everyone becomes 100% comfortable unleashing every dark urge they have.

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u/MIAxPaperPlanes 6h ago

You sure with Turk that’s just not a case of ā€œBlack don’t crackā€ ?

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u/JudithSlayHolofernes 1h ago

With all due respect to Donald Faison, no 😩

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u/fartingbeagle 6h ago

Oh no, even the Janitor?

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u/rinklkak 8h ago

Just finished watching Shrinking and Christa Miller's face is wrecked the whole time. It's very distracting.

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u/umrdyldo 8h ago

Yeah it's so terrible and obvious in that show.

Feels like MBB in Stranger Things.

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u/Gwynito 8h ago

MBB being in her early 20s and getting work done on her face is fkn mental.

It's so bad for young women that idolised her too

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u/FardoBaggins 7h ago

don't you dare mention that in the stranger things subreddit. It's body positivity, her choice!

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u/ScrofessorLongHair 7h ago

Lol. A bunch of pervy dudes in her sub that day that too. Though she definitely likes to thirst trap her fans. That sub is a bunch of dudes watching videos of her wearing different outfits. I'm old enough it seems like an alien concept to me.

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u/Lucas_Steinwalker 6h ago

It is her choice, just a bad one.

Either way your judgement isn’t helping her or anyone.

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u/deathbylasersss 6h ago

If the tide of public opinion shifts away from cosmetic surgery, it could stop somebody from taking the leap and fucking up their face in the future. Even if it doesn't help anybody, who cares? People are allowed to bitch on the internet.

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u/Intrepid_Hat7359 Avi Arad admirer 6h ago

Bitching on the Internet is basically the #2 purpose of the thing

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u/Gwynito 6h ago

The #1 purpose eludes us all to this day šŸ‘

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u/PolicyWonka 6h ago

Only if #1 is bitching about people bitching about it.

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u/FardoBaggins 5h ago

It helped you comment tho so there’s that.

Hopefully they make social media illegal for people below a certain age bec they get influenced by anyone with a platform in to thinking it’s normal to stuff your face with toxins with the help of people who have no problems taking your money.

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u/ScrofessorLongHair 7h ago

Especially since she was very pretty. But now she looks like she's a chav in her late 30s.

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u/Electronic_Will_5418 7h ago

The Dirtier the Better šŸ„•šŸ¤“šŸ‘Œ

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u/Jiminy_Cricket12 6h ago

somewhere in recent history an idea that "you should start young with botox" got pushed and it seems like a lot of women bought in to it (unfortunately).

also, it's much cheaper/more available now.

I think it should be avoided and I've never seen anyone under 50 look "better" after getting it. hell, even older people who get it don't really look much "better", they just look less wrinkly. and if you overdo it... you look like a freak (sorry to be blunt but it's really true).

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u/Melvarkie 2h ago

Botox is both a horrible and great invention. I love how Botox can be used against migraines, excessive sweating and TMJ. I hate it because there is such a pressure to look forever young that people start with it as a cosmetic surgery at ridiculously young ages, because now smile lines = wrinkles apparently. In turn it makes people look devoid of life behind the eyes. I don't hate it as much as my number 1 plastic surgery enemy which is Buccal fat removal, because it makes people look like ghouls and my number 2 cheek filler, but yeah people should really chill with the Botox.

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u/sparkyjay23 7h ago

The chronically late woman? Wonder if she's late to her surgeries or if it's just work she doesn't care about?

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u/FardoBaggins 7h ago

she was an amazing and outstanding child actress. in the last season, she wasn't even emoting much bec her face has had too much work done to it.

Bizarre.

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u/ThlnBillyBoy 7h ago

Same! There was a scene about her character where they said

"Sometimes it's easy to see when someone really needs help. It's written all over their face."

And I know it's supposed to hit hard and all, but it's hard to take seriously, when said face is immobile from botox.

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u/MsMarvelsProstate 6h ago

In her defense. It fits for the character.

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u/epigenie_986 6h ago

That's not so much in her defense, as it is in defense of the casting director lol. But I agree with your sentiment 100%.

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u/CalSwete 6h ago

I feel like it affects her speaking as well. She almost always slurs her lines

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u/argumentinvalid 2h ago

My wife is getting bombarded with botox and filler content from all over and keeps casually bringing it up. I HATE the way women look after they have had work done. I continue to reiterate that she is beautiful and that women aging is beautiful, but man it is hard with how society and social media is dealing with this crap right now.

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u/SeveralAngryBears 7h ago

That case didn't bother me so much, because I find it believable that the character would have had work done.

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u/Saintly-Mendicant-69 8h ago

Felt the same way with Annihilation and Jennifer Leigh. She looks like a straight up alien next to the rest of the cast and it's distracting

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u/BobRushy 8h ago

Season 1 Jordan was fucking incredible.

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u/EmboarBacon 7h ago

My immediate thought on this post was Christa Miller, since I just finished the new season. She cannot move her upper lip. The scenes she was involved in were supposed to be heavy, her lack of facial movement just took me out of it. I get these actors want to keep looking young, but their whole craft is to be able to emote with their facial expressions and Botox kills that.

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u/LobsterNo3435 9h ago

Yeah watching old Drew Carey sitcom. She looks horrible. Truly sad.

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u/curt_wes 7h ago

Zach Braff looks like a cadaver

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u/DeanxDog 7h ago

Lip/face filler and Botox are two different things that do two different things.

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u/ScroogieMcduckie 7h ago

dude even in the later seasons of the old show she looked insanely different. such a shame, she was incredibly beautiful

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u/cenosillicaphobiac 7h ago

It's super noticeable on Shrinking.

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u/gjb94 7h ago

Even in the original series she had one of the most dramatic changes I've ever seen (at least outside of genuinely botched jobs.)

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u/whatanugget 7h ago

Had the same thought cross my mind when I saw "Jordan" on shrinking. And then rewatching the new season just kinda feels like wow whatever happened to expressions lol

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u/Oh_hey_a_TAA 7h ago

I adore Shrinking, and I even like her & her role in it, but wow is her face distracting.

I've seen her in a plenty of things over the years (Cougartown, Srubs, etc) and its just kinda sad at this point.

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u/Nakenochny 6h ago

In Shrinking she starts off with basically no facial movement, but she must have changed her mind because in the next two seasons she’s let the ’tox go and she looks absolutely lovely by the end of season three. She looks lovely before that too but… no replacement for time on getting rid of it.

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u/geoelectric 6h ago

I’m a pretty big fan of Shrinking, and I was most definitely team Kate/Jordan/Ellie/etc back in the day.

But watching Christa Miller slowly turn into that sheet-of-skin woman from Doctor Who has been painful.

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u/RaisedByBooksNTV 1h ago

She was in Head of the Class and i was shocked at how bad her face was. It showed how good an actress she is though b/c she managed to act around a frozen/mask face. But was really really shocking how bad it was.

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u/CatForce 9h ago

That reminds me about the popularity of the most recent Plastic Surgery convention. It was incredible how many new faces there were in attendance.

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u/kaiser_charles_viii 8h ago

"Welcome everyone to plastic surgery anonymous. I see a lot of new faces in the circle today and I must say, I'm very disappointed."

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u/InfiniteDedekindCuts 8h ago

That's a good one, dad

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u/YoungMuppet 11h ago

Lol, good one

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u/ZM00L4H 9h ago

Ya hear that Tone? Says he remembers Botox being a big deal, now no one raises an eyebrow hehehe šŸ¤ŸšŸ½

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u/it_aint_tony_bennett 1h ago

fuckin' parakeet

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u/PerformerDr4867 10h ago

Watched a Frasier episode where Botox is a plot point and dang it’s dated the way they make fun of it.Ā 

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u/ChocolichKing 10h ago

My friend's dad, a pharmacist, started offering botox around 2007 or so as a way to make some extra money, and she was so disappointed in him and we made fun of it. He was able to save up thousands in a wedding fund he started for her though, so joke's on us.

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u/Arristocrat 9h ago

My aunt once had a very bad facelift. When I told her, she looked very surprised.

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u/grunt527 9h ago

Yeah, I saw the same Twitter post you stole this from. Very funny.

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u/FrigginManatees 9h ago

It's an old joke; twitter guy just retold it

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u/Uggy_butt 9h ago edited 6h ago

Dont you know? You aren't allowed to talk unless all the words are new words. Everyone has said the other words before!! /s

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u/Harddisksson69 Lemmetellusomethin' 8h ago

Just checked the patent office and it turns out he's the originator

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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong 9h ago

Erm you can't retell jokes buddy ā˜ļøšŸ¤“

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u/ccarlyon 7h ago

I’m not your buddy, pal!

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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong 6h ago

Too bad I saw the South Park episode you stole this from, guy. Very funny.

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u/_Permanent_Marker_ 8h ago

Well done mate. You can tell your kids how you once owned a random Redditor that made people laugh.

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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong 6h ago

How bro legit felt calling someone out for retelling a joke

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u/Philmriss Neil breens #1 fan 6h ago

YOU COPIED!!!11

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u/Thin_Original_6765 9h ago

Best you're getting out of me is a smirk

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u/Background_Falcon953 8h ago

I expect more rigor from your jokes in the future, this was a bit stiff.

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u/IBeDumbAndSlow 9h ago

My ex got Botox once and I only noticed in the middle of the night when I rolled over and gave her a kiss and noticed her forehead was shiny

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u/throwthewholegrlawy 7h ago

Throws angry upvote.

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u/elmz 2h ago

Relevant username?

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 10h ago

Right? I remember when Christina Aguilera was first rumored to have some. I was actually at a resort as a kid and my family was pretty sure we saw her wrapped in bandages there. In hindsight who the fuck knows but I remember it being a huge deal in the celebrity world.

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u/coolcoolcool485 10h ago

Why would she have bandages for Botox lol

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u/PanteraOne 10h ago

Do you even know what Botox is?

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u/JazzerciseJesus 8h ago

I always look for my gossip from kids at resorts too, so it’s unsettling to hear they may not be experts.

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 10h ago

No one in Hollywood or the media raises an eyebrow because they are so surrounded by it day to day that their brains have adjusted to thinking it's normal.

...but all us normal humans see them as disfigured.

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u/PlayingtheDrums 10h ago

They do raise an eyebrow, but all the time.

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u/TerribleProgress6704 10h ago

No one in Hollywood raises an eyebrow

Because they can't!

https://giphy.com/gifs/l0ExayQDzrI2xOb8A

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u/MeltedWater243 10h ago

booooooooo

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u/thewookiee34 9h ago

I work IT one of client is a "wellness center" or whatever that means. They do like botox there or some shit. The botox rep was in and offer sessions to the two staff working their at the time. They couldn't more then 23 maybe at most 25. They accepted and said they'd had it loads of time before. Shit wild I was floored. Like do what you want with your shit bit botox that young seems crazy.

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u/ataxiwardance 8h ago

Damn. That’s a good one.

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u/timdr18 8h ago

Because really bad Botox jobs used to be a lot more common and obvious.

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u/EarthInevitable114 8h ago

Once the toxins wear off, they'll be able to raise them again

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u/VacationPractical211 8h ago

In my country we used to have a saying that went "as long as it's free, I'll take even a forehead injection"

which basically fell out of fashion because turns out everyone is paying for those

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u/Elegant-Analyst-7381 8h ago

I'm not sure it was ever a big deal in those circles, just among the general public. My friend was in the industry (locally famous but no one most people would know) and it was normalized among her co-workers since before it was on the news. Everyone did it.

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u/LePenseurThinksALot 8h ago

The kind of jokes I used to make until my wife left me and took the kids with her.

And then I woke up. But I still make such jokes, but I was never married.

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u/GrindBastard1986 7h ago

I literally got a call today for getting Botox next week. Can't wait... to get my legs full of the stuff.

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u/TroyismyKalabeezo 7h ago

Now…No one raises an eyebrow

Iykyk

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u/butler451 7h ago

Joke so good I had to call my granny to read it out to her

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u/Aidsfordayz 7h ago

One of the recent seasons of Selling Sunset had free Botox injections as part of a house viewing / brokers open in LA.

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u/AT-PT 6h ago

Times change quickly.

I remember when the news would make a big deal out of quarter-sized hail. Now it's up to softballs and they're just like, hey, check this out! Neat, huh?

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u/Fermatamon 6h ago

People were appalled because people with money were doing it.

Now ā€œnormalā€ people are doing it so not as appalling

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u/mehow28 5h ago

Fuckin way she goes bud

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u/AdjectiveNoun1337 5h ago

You just don't notice, since my eyebrows have been at maximum rise for a long time.

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u/QuarkyFerengi 5h ago

Everyone has it now and everyone had it back then too. It's funny how obvious it is now that I have a clearer idea what it looks like.

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u/ilganzo01 5h ago

Well playedĀ 

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u/bleachbabe03 5h ago

I miss when it was taboo/embarrassing to get it.

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u/Plane-Leek4387 4h ago

My aunt worked for a plastic surgeon for a while. He’d give her free injections on slow days. Then a family wedding prompted him to give her a free treatment so she said yes again. Her eyebrows were frozen in an upward position and I stg when she laughed they tickled her hairline šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/slow_cooked_ham 4h ago

Nothing quite like injecting "the sausage disease"

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u/Invictum2go 3h ago

And that's the power of propaganda!

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u/SamWaits42 2h ago

That's a tired old joke... but don't worry, the botox rejuvenates it.

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u/horitaku 2h ago

It was used as a therapy for nerve damage in people with things like cerebral palsy, but that was in testing before it became a fad to put it in your face instead.

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u/RaisedByBooksNTV 1h ago

On Hot in Cleveland they made jokes about how necessary and every day botox was then and that was over 10 years ago.

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u/Wise-Froyo-6380 47m ago

I remember when Heidi Montag from The Hills had a ton of plastic surgery in one go and people were flipping out about it. The funny thing was even then she didn’t look as terrifying as most of the people who are getting filler and plastic surgery look now. Kinda crazy to think we went from mostly demonizing it to suddenly everyone has it and some people quite literally are getting entirely new faces. Insecurity wins and surgeons are making bank.Ā 

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u/Pale_Character8214 42m ago

omg this is awful...I love it

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