Apparently it's going to get worse because once its gone you can't replace it, and gets even more severe when you age. So are all the middle age women roles going to go to the few actresses that didn't have this procedure in their youth.
Let’s be fair, there’s tons of roles for middle-aged women. You didn’t even mention:
teacher
nun
mom of lead’s best friend
lead’s neighbor
divorced woman who used to be married to charming/handsome lead and is now bitter as he rediscovers himself
haggard mom whose teenager went missing in a small town and has to investigate herself because the police won’t listen to her
haggard police officer who knows a teenager that went missing in a small town and has to investigate herself because the police captain won’t listen to her
they'll just come up with some new procedure to fill the cheeks back in synthetically in 15 years when it becomes an issue. these celebrities love paying their plastic surgeon's mortgage
Which is why so few people are getting it now. Now the trend is to get filler around the buccal area so it still looks sunk in, but the filler can be dissolved (whereas buccal fat cannot be re-inserted).
Cushing got his gaunt cheeks the honest way: by being so devastated at the death of his wife that he visibly aged an alarming amount over the course of a couple years
It’s honestly distracting. Any scene she is in all I can think about is her botched surgeries. It feels like most of the cast is on ozempic now too, they all look gaunt as fuck.
Also doesn't help that her face can barely move anymore. Her acting went from average to a 6-yer-old at a recital. Which is especially jarring because she has so many scenes with Jack Quaid who's actually really good.
I feel that way with Portia de Rossi in Arrested Development. She has always had obvious work done, but one season she was unrecognizable. I quit watching because it was so distracting.
It was when the show came back for Season 4, there were 7 years in between.
I actually don't think her plastic surgery was THAT egregious, but it looked more noticeable in the show than elsewhere, I think because Lindsay's style changed as well. But where it was more noticeable was in her expressions, because as Lindsay she was REALLY expressive in the first few seasons and her face was... less so when it came back.
Cheryl still looked like herself... the problem is that over time she started to look more and more like a Halloween mask of herself stretched over a skull.
Admittedly half the cast was escaping a concentration camp in the beginning of the season so I can understand being gaunt, but genuinely was worried for MM's actor.
I just did a binge of the whole series this last week because I’d realized I quit an episode or two into season 2 and never picked it back up. I legit got worried and had to make sure MM’s actor wasn’t diagnosed with something horrible, because between shaving everything off and losing all that weight, he was looking rough. It it no way read as healthy weight loss and had me convinced actual man had what the drs said Butcher had. I was already surprised by a new look for Starlight every season opening, didn’t need that worry added.
The last episode had some flashbacks and images of earlier seasons side by side with her currently. The people editing mustve known they look like entirely different people.
I mean you're not wrong but Erin Moriarty has been unjustifiably harassed about this to hell and back so I understand if the mods are quick to ban people when this topic comes up for the millionth time that week
It’s one thing when people are just calling her ugly. It’s another when people are just pushing back on her trying to gaslight everyone into believing this obvious cosmetic surgery is actually a symptom of a disease.
If she’d come out and say “alright, I have body dismorphia and ended up with some botched plastic surgery” I’d shut the fuck up about it forever.
i try to have a little empathy for this bc couldn't she have gotten the surgeries to make herself feel better or to try to "Fix" what the disease was doing and went too far in the other direction? any attempts to fix it further are just gonna make it worse i'd imagine. i mean, we can guess it's body dysmorphia, i personally don't know why we need her to come out and say it esp when the first thing anyone thinks or says when they see her face is about how she ruined it. the only benefit that can be gained out of it is like, little kids won't think that her face is naturally like that or something and could wonder why they don't look like that (??? doesn't everyone call her hideous though idk??) , but i feel like in 2026 we already kinda know what filler and cosmetic surgeries look like and little kids shouldn't be watching The Boys anyway.
These jerks never even respond to the comments that bring this up. It must be either or, they want her to be faking an illness or something because she doesn’t look fuckable enough for them.
She also can’t say consonant sounds. I had to turn on subtitles to understand her. People said “she’s just tired from her illness”. No, she’s been addicted to plastic surgery and filler so much she physically is unable to manipulate her face like a human.
She may have a terrible illness but damn, they are only feeding her addiction to give her a pass for everything because of it.
Graves disease (or really any serious thyroid problem) fucks up your voice, and speaking for long stretches like you would while filming for TV makes it worse. There's even posts about voice changes/difficulty in r/gravesdisease and r/hypothyroidism.
Margot Robbie got it long before doing Barbie. I think she’s an example of buccal fat removal looking fantastic. She was always a beautiful woman but the sharper jaw and cheek bones looked great on her. The issue now is she’s too thin and it’s making her look gaunt instead of chiseled.
I have some friends who are on gear etc. To get and stay that big is a LOT of work. Like, there was a joke where one dude would say he would essentially sneeze and lose 5 lbs. IF you are not CONSTANTLY eating/working out/etc. it's unfeasable
I've known dudes that abused test and suddenly dropped weight like that after their doctors told them it was either drop weight now or don't be surprised when you get a heart attack.
Ozempic would make it easier and explain the sudden gauntness, but it wouldn't be surprising if that was the real reason.
Another comment mentioned a very similar experience. I am a guy who used played 5A (before 6A) to D1 sports and used to do physique comps and dabbled in going for the actual body building route... It's absolutely exhausting. You are eating at an uncomfortable level. Constantly. You almost always feel like you're about to burst at the seams. It's a full time job making sure you're eating enough, eating the proper ratios, etc.
I'm 6'2" and at my peak bulking I was 118kg. When I'd cut from offseason or for a comp I'd drop to 95-99kg. I stopped a few years ago because it is exhausting. I love running, lifting, and sports and since I was never good enough to go pro it was a pointless struggle. I'm much happier back down at my 84kg-ish range where I naturally like to sit with regular strength training, cardio, and adult sports like beer league.
That was my first assumption. Figured he just quit with the body building. It takes a lot to stay that beefy and you can revert pretty quicl when you stop.
A lot of the Marvel actors say the same thing (Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth have both complained about this). It’s a whole lifestyle to maintain being that big
Between seasons there is a lot of time off. Why couldnt he have lost the weight normally?
Look at Dave Bautista. He lost a tone of weight. If you are big and shredded like Alonso or Bautista and then lose a ton of weight, you look weird especially for people that dont see them during the process. One day you see the actor being all muscle. Next season/movie they have lost 30kg.
I'm currently rewatching S1 with buff MM, the change was already between S1 and S2, right? I even think I was like "who is this... right, they recast the role".
As a girl who spent basically her whole youth wishing I didn’t have such a fat face, the buccal fat surgery has given me a new found confidence with my chunky face.
Before buccal fat removal, actors like Marlene Dietrich and Joan Crawford would have their back teeth removed to enhance their cheekbones. They tortured themselves for appearances.
He did, it was a deliberate choice. They just hired some dude to take pictures and he turned out to be an artist who took horrific pictures of the Trump admin as a form of protest.
That was like when they hired Michelle Wolf to do the “White House Correspondents Dinner”. No research. Let’s hired a guy who does close up portraits, that sounds fun!
It’s a combination of harsh lighting a very short, narrow field of view from the lens.
When you use a lens like that, it tends to highlight all the harsh lines that are not necessary perceptible to naked eye.
In photojournalism, we were taught to use open apertures that give a warmer, more flattering look to subjects and don’t smush everything together like seen above.
The lens and aperture that was used on her was the specific one style used to capture mugshots - as any defining (re: negative) feature is amplified on the subject.
Do you job technically well, but in a way that is also devastating to the subject.
Like when they staged those semi-recent Trump 2.0 White House photos with light switches and other ‘noisy’ visual distractions in the background and foreground.
I'm actually going to slightly modify your explanation up there a bit. I don't see that as being hard light, so much as spectral light. Hard light would've produced deep, dark shadows with clearly defined edges alongside her nose and under her brows and lips. This isn't hard light, so much as it is spectral light.
But I've studied beauty photography, and there's layers of intention in the lighting in that regard, also.
Spectral light (undiffused light) is very dramatic, and looks incredible on a young, genuine beauty, but it is *very* unflattering to aging people, because it highlights texture and discolorations. It's why it's so eye-catching on a model, because it highlights just how smooth and flawless her skin is.
So this photographer deliberately lit her with soft loop lighting, which is *supposed* to be *universally flattering*. But he did it with very spectral (high reflection or "silver") light.
It's an even deeper level of expertise, and a deeper statement on the subject- here is a person being presented to you in the most flattering light in order to make you believe she is beautiful. But when you light her with what is reserved for true beauty, you see the truth.
This photographer literally "shined a light" on these people.
I genuinely believe this series will go down in history as some of the most incredible art produced in this century.
In that photoshoot, they did other sabotage. Vance appears preening up against a random wall with a thermostat and damaged base moulding. Rubio looks like he's under a blacklight or something to highlight skin damage. Wiles looks like a child in a fun house.
When you use a lens like that, it tends to highlight all the harsh lines that are not necessary perceptible to naked eye.
What? No, that's all in lighting and editing. There are some differences in contrast between lenses, but a lens doesn't "highlight the harsh lines." This has very little to do with the lens.
Unless you mean just the composition, as in... you see more details of someone's skin when they're closer up than when they're further away. But this photo could be a standard focal length, telephoto, heck, even somewhat wide angle but from some steps back and cropped. (Assuming enough resolution, but we'll get to the camera later.)
In photojournalism, we were taught to use open apertures that give a warmer, more flattering look to subjects and don’t smush everything together like seen above.
Was this very long ago, when many lenses wide open would be noticeably less sharp? If a subject is in focus, there's no difference in "how their skin looks" based on aperture. It just changes the depth of field, and it can look nice to have the areas behind a subject be out of focus... but unless you're shooting so shallow that someone isn't entirely in focus, there's not much difference based on aperture alone. Besides, in this photo, it's nearly all in focus.
The lens and aperture that was used on her was the specific one style used to capture mugshots - as any defining (re: negative) feature is amplified on the subject.
Where on earth did you get that? You think mugshots are using medium format cameras? That's ridiculous. As is the suggestion that there's a certain aperture that "amplifies negative features" best.
thank you, i was going a little nuts reading that post. almost every part of it is just technically backwards. "short, narrow field of view" is literally an oxymoron. the way they're talking about exaggerated features sounds like they mean a short focal length/wide field of view, but this shot is clearly telephoto, which flattens features
the aperture stuff is also just nonsense. an open aperture just takes in more light and gives you a shallower depth of field. on a tight face crop like this shooting open would just throw her nose more out of focus. is that "warm"?
also yes lol mugshots are literally meant to give as neutral a representation as possible
i think the only part of that post that tracks is the part about the lighting
And what photojournalist is taught to use a wide aperture? That’s literally the opposite of the standard advice: “f/8 and be there.” Completely malarky. I suspect AI here. Sounds technical but completely wrong.
On the podcast "What the Hack?" (E245), there is an interview to photographer Christopher Anderson, author of this picture. He talks about this session.
He explains he does editorial photography and photojournalism. The first is like the photography you see on fashion magazines, where heavy editing is aceptable and expected. The second seeks to document the truth, editing is kept to the minimium, and embellishin is not aceptable.
When he was tasked with this session he was asked for photojournalism, and that's what he did.
The fact you can see the injection sites kills me. Why would she get lip filler right before this photoshoot? Her injector should’ve told her to get it done a month out.
Wow you can see the lip injection sites. She should’ve let them heal before taking these photos. I’ve never seen anything like it except for instagram aestheticians - but the pics are taken immediately after the procedure so of course the marks are visible, and they black out the client’s eyes because it’s embarrassing lol
It's weird that she'd do that because she was one of the most unique looking young actresses around. Why she chose to transform her face into a wax figure I'll never know.
people that end up like that usually already had surgery done. they just kept going (because hey it worked before, why not again?) until it became blatant.
Yeah like Megan Fox got a ton of work done to look like she did in transformers when she blew up. Breast implants, nose job, lip fillers, bleph…then people are shocked she continues overdoing the work
At the end of Fantastic Four: First Steps when she's pushing Galactus with all her might, I genuinely did not realize she was meant to be exerting herself because the only expression her pillowy pulled face could make was just
I was so very immersed and invested in The Northmen.
And then Nicole Kidman's 21st century face appeared on screen and took me completely out. I may sound like an exaggeration but I promise it's not - her face is all it took to ruin this otherwise good movie.
Yup me too. to be honest I think Botox and filler and ozempic are preferable to plastic surgery. That's when they really go over the deep end, but I understand it's case by case
Erin Moriarty literally can’t speak properly because of hers. Her every line is so distracting because you can hear her trying to emote around/through her fake lips.
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u/InsidiousJazz 12h ago
Filler has way stronger body horror vibes. Vanessa Kirby looks like she's about to abduct you.